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csziggy

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50. The timeframe for tha scenario just does not work
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jun 2012

Between the time on the video at the 7-Eleven, the time that Zimmerman called in to SPD, the time for the calls from Martin's girlfriend, the times for the 911 call with the screams and the gunshot, there was no time that Martin could have walked up to Zimmerman's vehicle and talked to him.

The exchange would have been heard by the SPD dispatcher or by Martin's girlfriend. Neither report that.

And if somehow the times I have for all those events are wrong and Martin HAD walked up to Zimmerman's vehicle, why would Zimmerman have denied following Martin? The clear choice would have been for Zimmerman to say, "Yes, I am following you. I'm in the neighborhood watch and there have been break-ins in the neighborhood. I was concerned that you might have been a burglar. Can I help you?"

Zimmerman had been cagey about identifying himself and giving his address in previous calls to SPD, even when he was reporting suspicious people and incidents. I think he was paranoid and wanted to avoid being connected to his own numerous calls to police. At the same time, he wanted to be in control of the situation. He chose the wrong way to take control, when a few civil sentences would have made the difference.

I think the charge of Second Degree murder is accurate. If Zimmerman had listened to the 911 teddy51 May 2012 #1
Yes, people should always take the advice of 911 dispatchers Neue Regel May 2012 #6
You can find mistakes or errors from any profession under the sun, but Florida isn't Denver Uncle Joe May 2012 #10
Clearly George Zimmerman SHOULD HAVE. That is the point. Lex May 2012 #11
anectdotal BootinUp May 2012 #12
And how does that in any way relate to what happened in the Zimmerman case? sabrina 1 May 2012 #32
What's the point of 911 if people aren't going to listen to them? ck4829 May 2012 #33
Oh, god... Blue_Tires May 2012 #35
Yeah, this is comparable because it's obvious that Trayvon would've smashed the window deutsey May 2012 #36
They ignored the operator, and got shot. boppers Jun 2012 #53
the cops had it right naaman fletcher May 2012 #40
Sounds actually pretty reasonable ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #2
Ah, yes. Florida is an NRA paradise. Lots of fear, stupidity, racism, and poverty. onehandle May 2012 #4
I was stating that the police report was reasonable in its conclusion ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #24
Lack of wealth? Boabab May 2012 #20
IIRC he wasn't making much in the way of income and his house was upside down. ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #25
Anyway it turns out, I think Zimmerman's life is pretty much toast, he will be crunch60 May 2012 #41
Got my right wing hat on. The pro zimmerman side will claim he wasn't ordered not to follow... DLine May 2012 #3
Yet Trayvon was supposed to follow every request of Zimmerman MattBaggins May 2012 #5
Why would you put a right wing hat on? BootinUp May 2012 #13
Because I look dashing with a tri corner. DLine May 2012 #39
If you have any photos... BootinUp May 2012 #43
Well played, sir. eom boppers Jun 2012 #54
From The pictures posted on Huffpo... Grassy Knoll May 2012 #7
Trayvon Martin should be a NRA hero. dougg May 2012 #8
Obviously, Trayvon was the wrong color. nt Boabab May 2012 #21
Too many state and federal laws prohibit. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #29
Look at who in Florida has failed to get SYG immunity csziggy Jun 2012 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #9
Doh!! Zoeisright May 2012 #14
This statement is confusing grok May 2012 #15
The statement is clear. intheflow May 2012 #16
Agreed d06204 May 2012 #17
Zimmerman claimed Trayvon Martin 'circled' his vehicle while Zimmerman was on the phone csziggy Jun 2012 #47
from what Martin's Father was told neohippie Jun 2012 #49
The timeframe for tha scenario just does not work csziggy Jun 2012 #50
One can assume that Zimmerman made that up. yardwork Jun 2012 #52
Interesting how FAUX news do not allow comments on this story fingrinn May 2012 #18
I think the DA probably should have gone with Manslaughter teewrex May 2012 #19
Manslaughter should be a viable option for the jury. nt Boabab May 2012 #22
IIRC that is automatic in FL ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #26
The affadavit for the charges doesn't state so. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #28
I want to remember it was discussed here ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #37
The Casey Anthony jury had the option of lesser charges csziggy Jun 2012 #48
Wouldn't Zimmerman be absolutely covered in Trayvon's blood if he had been lying beneath him FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #23
Depends ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #27
I would think shot in the heart there would be madokie May 2012 #30
But there would be some type of spray. There is a full body shot at this link FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #31
"You don't need to do that" is a lot different from, "Do NOT do that." n/t Ian David May 2012 #34
I agree the dispatcher should have been more precise in her wording. intheflow May 2012 #42
"...we don't need you to do that," is the more precise wording. teknomanzer Jun 2012 #51
Yes, I agree with that. slackmaster May 2012 #38
Thank you, Capt. Obvious Mayflower1 Jun 2012 #44
Apparently there were two confrontations... neohippie Jun 2012 #45
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