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53. It probably depends on the meaning of 'unattended' in state law

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:16 AM

Feb 2016

If someone is attended by a physician within a certain number of hours of death, the death may not meet the definition of "unattended," depending on state law.

Scalia reportedly had multiple chronic health conditions and had seen his doctor just before flying to Texas--reportedly to clear him to make the trip.

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Donald Trump Raises Suspicions About Justice Scalia's Death [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel Feb 2016 OP

No, I'm pretty sure he's dead. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #1

"and he's not only merely dead thucythucy Feb 2016 #39

someone else posted on DU SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #85

But he had a pillow on his head...! NWProf Feb 2016 #89

Lovely plumage though. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author yellowcanine Feb 2016 #63

Bonus points for M. Python reference! AllyCat Feb 2016 #107

More importantly didn't he say something today about the RNC not being fair to him? randys1 Feb 2016 #2

Fat Tony's family declined to have an autopsy. Maybe his own family murdered him? jalan48 Feb 2016 #3

Bingo. You're definitely in touch with your inner Hércule Poirot. forest444 Feb 2016 #5

But whom was Fat Tony's guest? Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #14

a gay prostitute, perhaps? RussBLib Feb 2016 #19

Ah yes. A late night visitor bearing an extra-large pillow. Fat Tony had a big head. Hmmmm. jalan48 Feb 2016 #20

Not necessarily a guest dflprincess Feb 2016 #27

OMG MissDeeds Feb 2016 #114

I thought autopsies were mandatory... 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #31

No-apparently they just asked his family and they said no. jalan48 Feb 2016 #33

No, if his doctor says it was a natural death, that's usually good enough passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #37

The doctor didn't see Scalia's body, declared it natural causes anyway. nt bananas Feb 2016 #46

I don't know who declared Scalia's death passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #71

Texas is different - the doctor doesn't need to see the body. bananas Feb 2016 #87

Woah! That is scary! passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #101

Big fat 79 year old smokers are walking miracles dorkzilla Feb 2016 #54

My ex had been a smoker his whole life until the last ten years or so passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #72

I have a few close to me that are addicted . They have tried so many times to stop. Person 2713 Feb 2016 #104

The judge could have ordered it regardless of the family wishes, she chose not to. 33taw Feb 2016 #68

There is no clear reason for her to have ordered it. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #110

The Judge who pronounced him dead could have ordered an autopsy, but chose not to. 33taw Feb 2016 #69

It depends on which state. louis-t Feb 2016 #70

i thought autopsies were mandatory in unattended deaths. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #49

It probably depends on the meaning of 'unattended' in state law pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #53

ok. i am sure with multiple health issues, this was not a complete shock to his dr nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #58

Not surprising, given that Trump's act is a caricature of Jesse Vetura (n/t) William Seger Feb 2016 #4

Cui bono is a solid principle. Who has motive is a big part of solving crime. Demit Feb 2016 #10

Cui bono is a solid principle for identifying suspects William Seger Feb 2016 #18

Stupid Comment billhicks76 Feb 2016 #22

And Scalia Was 89 billhicks76 Feb 2016 #23

79 dflprincess Feb 2016 #28

Sorry...My Bad billhicks76 Feb 2016 #52

It wasn't a heart attack, according to the doctor. nt bananas Feb 2016 #47

My GF Died of Congestive Heart Failure ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #76

The doctor "said she meant only that his heart had stopped." bananas Feb 2016 #86

Yep, conspiracies can actually exist William Seger Feb 2016 #34

All the reports I read stated that he had the pillow on his head. justhanginon Feb 2016 #6

... and I read a couple that said he was found on the floor, and moved to the bed ... Myrina Feb 2016 #78

I did it with a meatloaf in the kitchen at midnight rurallib Feb 2016 #7

That sounds dirty. redwitch Feb 2016 #9

you're right it does rurallib Feb 2016 #11

I did figure it out after a second or two. redwitch Feb 2016 #12

He ate the whole meatloaf, right out of the oven? That would do it. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2016 #16

my special onion and ketchup sauce rurallib Feb 2016 #17

Meatloaf for dinner again? bananas Feb 2016 #48

Trump's moved from Birther to Deather? houston16revival Feb 2016 #8

It was a hunting trip watoos Feb 2016 #13

To hide the fact that his Rx was not in his system... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2016 #25

Wouldn't they hear the buckshot rattling in the urn? nt dflprincess Feb 2016 #29

My husband suggestes Scalia heard Cheney was coming Marthe48 Feb 2016 #93

The butler did it! moreland01 Feb 2016 #15

Did he or did he not have a pillow on his face? mainer Feb 2016 #21

The ranch owner now clarifies that the pillow was over Scalia's HEAD, not his face pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #73

I just wonder if this oligarchy is going to ask...................... turbinetree Feb 2016 #24

"Warren Commission-style investigation"... dflprincess Feb 2016 #26

I do believe his supposed crack team of birth certificate investigators are in Canada at the moment. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #30

I think his crack-head team of investigators is still in Kenya ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #55

All this gangster talk and pillows makes me think of this d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #32

Who among us wants to pay for yet another rethug inquisition? Or inquest, in this case. JudyM Feb 2016 #35

No problem Turbineguy Feb 2016 #56

It does seem a little weird... 3 hours went by after they knocked on his door.... JudyM Feb 2016 #62

lol Separation Feb 2016 #79

Mebbe so. Sumthin, fo' sho'. Nt JudyM Feb 2016 #81

This is now a mainstream view among the right oberliner Feb 2016 #36

...he's nuts. SoapBox Feb 2016 #38

Dr. D. Trump, MD, Coroner of Cowshit, Texas: "Looks pretty unusual" that he was found SDjack Feb 2016 #40

Because any murdurer would leave the pillow truthisfreedom Feb 2016 #41

my thought exactly... olddad56 Feb 2016 #43

Reading again. ffr Feb 2016 #42

I'm sure I'm not alone: I knew when I first heard the news of his passing... C Moon Feb 2016 #44

Because, as we all know, elderly, overweight men NEVER simply die of natural causes. BlueStater Feb 2016 #45

professor plum in the study with the candlestick. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #50

The pillow thing is interesting. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #51

Both the pillow and family's waiver are typical. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #111

If we had a media worth a damn ... Delphinus Feb 2016 #57

what kind of hit man leaves the pillow? librechik Feb 2016 #59

How do you know that he WASN'T "found wearing a tutu and covered with tiger stripes"? Jim Lane Feb 2016 #65

heh--"please let it be gay autoerotic asphyxiation, Please let it be gay autoerotic asphyxiation" librechik Feb 2016 #98

The Freepers are all howling for an autopsy and a full investigation. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #100

Seriously? A 79-year old fat man that smoked like a chimney and drank? Raster Feb 2016 #60

Wait...this guy's name is really "Savage Weiner"? Dopers_Greed Feb 2016 #64

If they find the cannoli, they'll find the killer ... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #66

Actually, it was a conspiracy... cannolis, Marlboro Lites-R, and Dago Red. Raster Feb 2016 #67

Leave the pillow, take the canoli. ThoughtCriminal Feb 2016 #80

The only thing that smothered Scalia was doublechins numbers four, five and six. Raster Feb 2016 #84

yeah I suppose he's also one of many LIBERALS who believe Dick Cheney brought down the PatrynXX Feb 2016 #74

Considering who he was with Wibly Feb 2016 #75

Okay, he's seemed delusional all along. Yet another completely good reason he should never be trillion Feb 2016 #77

was he hunting with Dick Cheney? djg21 Feb 2016 #82

What total wingnuttery. Can't a 79 year old die of natural causes in their sleep anymore? Vinca Feb 2016 #83

quick everone olddots Feb 2016 #88

A natural death is almost guaranteed if your over 75 and morbidly obese. Crowman1979 Feb 2016 #90

Everyone dies some natural death unless it is a violent act. former9thward Feb 2016 #96

Many accidents are neither violent nor natural. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #112

Maybe you can give some former9thward Feb 2016 #115

Someone should find out where Cheney was Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #91

An overweight smoker drops dead at 79 DesertRat Feb 2016 #92

LOL Trump is Alex Jones clone humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #94

Trump is right to be concerned! GuardianOne Feb 2016 #95

Yes! JackRiddler Feb 2016 #97

Of course, I had almost forgotten. Didn't Trump get his MD and board certification in Diagnostic 24601 Feb 2016 #99

Actually this could help Obama get his nomination ....Trumps Repuk competition despise him. Pauldg47 Feb 2016 #102

Actually this could help Obama get his nomination ....Trumps Repuk competition despise him. Pauldg47 Feb 2016 #103

thinking it might have been a Nelson Rockefeller death wordpix Feb 2016 #105

It was not on his face... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #106

And when will we be seeing Obama's university diploma? Zambero Feb 2016 #108

It was only a matter of time NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #109

If I smothered someone with a pillow, I'd make sure I didn't leave the murder weapon on his face. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #113