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31. 1+++++++++++++ & at least a little respect education professionals & their curriculum.

Thu May 31, 2012, 09:04 PM

May 2012

Parents who don't know that they don't know what they don't know can hardly be regarded as appropriate judges of what is legitimate curriculum. Students are HUMANS the have more needs than just "get a better job and earn more money" and responding to those needs AUTHENTICALLY is just as life sustaining as a paycheck. Anyone who has ever seen a kid "catch fire" over some curriculum content knows this and that's the teacher's role.

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Edmonton teacher suspended for giving 0s [View all] alp227 May 2012 OP

I don't understand the rule. IF you don't do the work, why should you not get a zero? ejpoeta May 2012 #1

Yup, it sounds as dumb a policy as the zero tolerance policies some schools have adopted. nt cstanleytech May 2012 #23

sound slike the school is zero intolerant.... Evasporque Jun 2012 #75

I think we should just keep moving the kids up to the next level based on age promotion wordpix May 2012 #50

It might make the kids feel bad 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #101

Sounds like the teacher is right to me Renew Deal May 2012 #2

bingo :) Bobbingsworth May 2012 #40

Welcome to DU! Renew Deal May 2012 #43

or give them a 0.000001 KurtNYC Jun 2012 #68

I wish I went to that school sharp_stick May 2012 #3

I've always been of the opinion that Drale May 2012 #4

Even if you just draw smiley faces on a math test? Write about how you SWTORFanatic Jun 2012 #66

That does a GREAT job of preparing them for the real world joeglow3 Jun 2012 #78

The difference is in the goals. Igel Jun 2012 #94

Grade inflation is everywhere. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #5

Research supports that; it was part of my master's thesis. No one seems to know the difference ... patrice May 2012 #19

ADD or not students should be challenged Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #28

So stupid rules not exclusive to U.S. school systems, eh? elleng May 2012 #6

I'm on the teacher's side, but mark my words some shit-stirrer will wash up in this thread defending apocalypsehow May 2012 #7

What a useless comment. Demit May 2012 #10

No, smart observation. originalpckelly May 2012 #13

There might be ways of having a reasonable "no 0" policy. Igel Jun 2012 #95

I can. Nine Jun 2012 #98

Agreed, one of the trophies for all crowd... originalpckelly May 2012 #12

Yup! Like clockwork. nt Poll_Blind May 2012 #18

Yep. patrice May 2012 #20

Well I guess I'll be the shit-stirrer... Nine May 2012 #38

That's not even fairly stirred - that's just shit. Irrelevant, non-responsive shit. In any event: apocalypsehow May 2012 #41

Please explain how my post is irrelevant. And also: Nine May 2012 #42

Nah: that pretty much speaks for itself. As you well know. Pretty much, we're done here. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #44

You must have been a whiz in Debate Club. (nt) Nine May 2012 #47

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #51

You can't play the "you're not worth engaging" card and keep popping in to get the last word! X-D Nine Jun 2012 #55

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #57

Pot/Kettle Major Nikon Jun 2012 #72

"Just sayin'," uhhhh, what exactly? apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #81

I see idioms aren't your strong suit Major Nikon Jun 2012 #82

I see just posting what you mean and saying what you think is not your's - I'd look into that. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #99

IF you were a teacher christx30 Jun 2012 #53

So if I disagreed with the policy of teaching about evolution or contraceptives... Nine Jun 2012 #60

Quote SWTORFanatic Jun 2012 #67

yes, and just to clarify... Nine Jun 2012 #76

Yup. n/t Igel Jun 2012 #96

I could not agree more! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2012 #64

Ughhhh Renew Deal Jun 2012 #69

If he wanted to be clever he could give them a one or a fraction of a point D23MIURG23 May 2012 #8

sqrt(e)^-10 percent! (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #9

I'd give them an "i" kentauros Jun 2012 #58

Reading the story, this is fucking bullshit. originalpckelly May 2012 #11

This happened to my son...... Smilo May 2012 #14

especially teenagers! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #29

At the public H.S. my kids go to they get a zero rexcat Jun 2012 #80

I got something like a 15 on an assignment from one teacher high density May 2012 #15

He was allowing students to come in and do the work TrogL May 2012 #16

I took unlimited make-up that declined in value weekly until it reached 50%. NO extra credit. patrice May 2012 #17

but a doctor is allowed to deny care to a rape victim ManyShadesOf May 2012 #21

This is a case of Up is down and Down is up. Mind numbing for sure. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #22

So it is better to teach students that they will be rewarded for little or no effort? Throd May 2012 #24

that is what we are producing in this country Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #26

That's why I got out of it. nt patrice May 2012 #32

This country? kdmorris Jun 2012 #65

I am talking about this country Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #85

I apologize.... kdmorris Jun 2012 #89

I give zeros if they don't do the work Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #25

Or, if your school developed this insane policy against zeroes, kentauros Jun 2012 #59

as the saying goes 'it is what it is' Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #86

Sure :) kentauros Jun 2012 #91

Appropriate behavior IS ability, if the behavior standards are reasonable. Give them a 2. WriteWrong May 2012 #27

You ever try to talk to anyone about grading schemas? Almost NO ONE will listen. All they want is patrice May 2012 #34

The parents also should have more responsibility Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #30

1+++++++++++++ & at least a little respect education professionals & their curriculum. patrice May 2012 #31

+1.. I've had parents blame me for "losing homework" b/c their kids swore they did it & handed it in wordpix May 2012 #48

Yes, I know Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #88

that's ridiculous. and it is teaching the kids that they don't ejpoeta Jun 2012 #102

How can he assess ability when assignments aren't completed? proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #33

The student at least has shown a very low level of competency, by neglecting assignments. alp227 May 2012 #35

"Student lacks the ability to complete assignments" is something I could assess.. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #61

Sounds like the school I used to teach in. . . BigDemVoter May 2012 #36

the kids not turning in work were likely bullied.. teacher is on a ego trip... n/t IamK May 2012 #37

We're in a lot of trouble when a teacher who gives zeros is considered old school and hard core bluestateguy May 2012 #39

they can make up the work in detention Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #52

I attended a school with this policy and I never did homework. Bobbingsworth May 2012 #45

well at least you can write fairly well so something went right :-) wordpix May 2012 #46

Thanks! Bobbingsworth May 2012 #49

Thanks for your story! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2012 #54

I'd say that school needs "zero-tolerance" kentauros Jun 2012 #56

What score should he have given for work not turned in? Wabbajack_ Jun 2012 #62

I hate zero tolerance rules.. sendero Jun 2012 #63

They are training these kids for "no show" jobs KurtNYC Jun 2012 #70

Many of the boys u4ic Jun 2012 #83

That's pretty much the culture laundry_queen Jun 2012 #84

I'm all too familiar u4ic Jun 2012 #90

As a professional teacher, I do not believe in giving 0s for not turning in homework. kemah Jun 2012 #71

I don't support CRK7376 Jun 2012 #73

Can't do anything that might hurt the little snowflakes! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #74

Zeroes were my big stick when I was teaching. WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #77

"This is my BOOMSTICK!" BlueIris Jun 2012 #93

one thing we need to recognize is how teachers present material to interest students in subjects wordpix Jun 2012 #79

yes we are overloaded but..... Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #87

"uncompleted"? boppers Jun 2012 #92

We need a detailed explanation of the assignments, exams, and policy muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #97

In 1st grade in the 40s in Louisiana, grades were S=satisfactory, U=unsatisfactory or I=incomplete. RushIsRot Jun 2012 #100