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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
182. "Not marked" is not the same as "Not classified".
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jan 2016

Information is classified whether or not it is properly marked.

sigh* nt retrowire Jan 2016 #1
Just got an AP bulletin on my phone about the same thing. It's definitely informing/infecting villager Jan 2016 #2
I bet it will be "mum's the word" on the major networks. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #19
SHE SHOULD NOT be the nominee. Too risky with this, John Poet Jan 2016 #172
If she's the nominee Trump will crush her ram2008 Jan 2016 #3
She should step aside and let Biden take her place Angel Martin Jan 2016 #22
Nonsense. Based on what? cali Jan 2016 #55
She broke the law buy sending highly classified information over unsecured servers IamTheNoodle Jan 2016 #67
You realize that Colin Powell and Condi Rice did the same thing LynneSin Jan 2016 #73
then prosecute them too. just because others do it doesn't change a thing roguevalley Jan 2016 #76
If the precedent has been set (of not doing anything)then it should be seen as political targeting . IamTheNoodle Jan 2016 #84
Jail her for what? LynneSin Jan 2016 #85
FBI is not right wing. 840high Jan 2016 #194
FBI also said the emails were not classified when they were sent LynneSin Jan 2016 #236
There were 16-18 emails between 840high Jan 2016 #237
Thank you 7962 Jan 2016 #113
It's called "what-abouttery" and is a poor logical fallacy. AngryOldDem Jan 2016 #229
Facts be damned some folks here just hate Hillary...if you close your eyes you might randys1 Jan 2016 #79
No, just worried IamTheNoodle Jan 2016 #100
No shit, comrade. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #101
Neither had a personal server and neither are said to have sent classified info karynnj Jan 2016 #121
Last that I know, Colin Powell and Condi Rice are not running for president n/t AZ Progressive Jan 2016 #155
Powell and Rice had aides transcribe top secret memo info to... grasswire Jan 2016 #213
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Jan 2016 #215
NOT the same backtomn Feb 2016 #244
She didn't do the sending. LiberalFighter Jan 2016 #116
Doesn't matter if she didn't do the sending. jeff47 Jan 2016 #177
According to my sources ... GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #157
Maybe she shouldn't have set up a private email server for work emails Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #169
Let's get the story straight. BlueStreak Jan 2016 #210
Not Classifed LeFleur1 Jan 2016 #235
I could see myself voting for Hillary but Biden would be very reasonable... TipTok Jan 2016 #120
They said almost the same thing about Obama. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #126
No. Just no. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #114
Bull. Secretaries Powell and Rice before her did the same thing. cheapdate Jan 2016 #129
Secretary Powell had a private server? nt ram2008 Jan 2016 #130
Well, he said he used his personal email for Department business, cheapdate Jan 2016 #135
No, they didn't. frylock Jan 2016 #132
Give you Rice. Powell said he used private email for State Department business. cheapdate Jan 2016 #133
No, he didn't. frylock Jan 2016 #136
I'm being told something different. cheapdate Jan 2016 #137
I was mistaken when I said that Powell had one system for private email, and one for govt business.. frylock Jan 2016 #150
Bottom line for me - I'm not concerned over cheapdate Jan 2016 #154
I think it speaks to her incredible lack of judgment and absolute hubris.. frylock Jan 2016 #158
A Republican White House cheapdate Jan 2016 #160
Then vote for Sanders. frylock Jan 2016 #161
Plan to. cheapdate Jan 2016 #165
It's not going to be easy, but I feel more confident with every passing day frylock Jan 2016 #168
I hafta agree Hillary should step aside... but only to let President Sanders assume his rightful place as leader of the progressive movement in this country. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #227
sad that this, instead of her support of the Iraq War, is what might be her downfall uhnope Jan 2016 #4
In both cases it is her bad judgment. Wisdom and good judgment are extremely serious TryLogic Jan 2016 #102
she knew what she was doing was illegal but figured she's a clinton, she can do as she pleases bowens43 Jan 2016 #5
It's also bad staffing. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #65
She surrounded herself with sycophants and yes men.. frylock Jan 2016 #131
Really? None of the emails were classified or marked top secret at the time. LiberalFighter Jan 2016 #118
+100 AZ Progressive Jan 2016 #156
.^that 840high Jan 2016 #198
This morning on one of the news shows I heard a commentator musing about whether the FBI Vinca Jan 2016 #6
She can't defend against this and be focused on running an effective campaign at the same time. JudyM Jan 2016 #10
HRC (7/25/15) - "I did not send or get classified emails in private account" leveymg Jan 2016 #7
The second statement makes no sense whatsoever. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #72
I can't remember which crazy repub rep said they will impeach her the moment she roguevalley Jan 2016 #78
I don't think any of this is impeachable. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #87
They impeached her husband for lying Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #144
Anything is impeachable. All it takes is a majority vote in the House. Expecting the Senate to 24601 Jan 2016 #171
Everything is impeachable. Doesn't even have to be a crime. jeff47 Jan 2016 #178
Meaning Hillary is going to be too mired in congressional inquiry for the next year or more to JudyM Jan 2016 #8
The good of the party should be her first concern. Angel Martin Jan 2016 #9
It was part wishful thinking and part tongue-in-cheek. We shall see. JudyM Jan 2016 #11
That is pretty comical, murielm99 Jan 2016 #43
It's about progressive values, which used to be the heart of the party. JudyM Jan 2016 #46
Some people care about policy. Others care about the level of respect being shown to the Party. frylock Jan 2016 #134
I was thinking "LOLOLOL" before I clicked your post!! Good one. 7962 Jan 2016 #115
Hillary's concern is Hillary. 840high Jan 2016 #199
Mais oiu, la parti c'est moi. n/t 24601 Jan 2016 #217
This isn't ever going to go away Arazi Jan 2016 #12
It would be worse if the lid popped off right before the general. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #28
Why do you think the Republicans aren't talking much about it? jeff47 Jan 2016 #179
I like how her spokesman "adamently opposes the complete blocking of the release of these emails" GummyBearz Jan 2016 #13
Not only that, but if it's questionable how can disclosure be good for national security? JudyM Jan 2016 #48
Yep 840high Jan 2016 #200
Question is pscot Jan 2016 #14
I just wrote in post #16 OKNancy Jan 2016 #18
Even if it was classified after the fact... Hangingon Jan 2016 #53
Good judgment is not one of her strong points. Quite the opposite. TryLogic Jan 2016 #107
Huh? dlwickham Jan 2016 #138
So, all the. Years of experience she tells us she has and she cannot recognize sensitive subject mat Hangingon Jan 2016 #170
What's considered sensitive today dlwickham Jan 2016 #173
News organizations do not determine classification. Hangingon Jan 2016 #176
But they can publish information that might be considered sensitive dlwickham Jan 2016 #219
Wrong! Hangingon Jan 2016 #223
The Pentagon papers were eventually declared unclassified dlwickham Jan 2016 #224
You seemingly took my poor example as an unfortunate ray of hope. Hangingon Jan 2016 #231
Ray of hope? dlwickham Jan 2016 #233
Late at night to read turgid EOs but I did see this at first glance. Hangingon Jan 2016 #238
Nope. jeff47 Jan 2016 #181
Would leaked information be reclassified dlwickham Jan 2016 #220
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Jan 2016 #201
Does it matter? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2016 #97
You're trained to recognize sensitive material whether marked or not. 7962 Jan 2016 #117
Same ol bullshit.. asuhornets Jan 2016 #15
I was just thinking the same exact thing LynneSin Jan 2016 #68
Unbelievable n/t asuhornets Jan 2016 #88
Exactly... TipTok Jan 2016 #142
The Hill doesn't state it specifically, but other more reputable sites point out that OKNancy Jan 2016 #16
Kirby said the emails were not MARKED classified karynnj Jan 2016 #29
do you realize that discussing a news story about a drone strike makes an email geek tragedy Jan 2016 #37
Sure - it would be the information included in the discussion that would be more or less significant karynnj Jan 2016 #52
depends on what they say. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #59
Thats exactly right. Yet everyone says "nothing to see here...." 7962 Jan 2016 #119
That doesn't matter, or it shouldn't. As Sec of State she should know the info is top secret. JudyM Jan 2016 #32
They were not MARKED classified when they were sent. That's a far cry Akicita Jan 2016 #47
Classified information appears in the press on a regular basis. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #63
Ok. That may explain one. What about the other 1,300? Akicita Jan 2016 #74
every discussion of the drone program would be considered classified. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #77
Its been widely reported that there are over 1,300 classified emails found so far. Akicita Jan 2016 #90
to be precise, FOIA bureaucrats have labeled 1300 documents 'classified' geek tragedy Jan 2016 #92
1600 now. Akicita Jan 2016 #148
And it's still classified. jeff47 Jan 2016 #184
I'm not sure that gmail OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #75
DIRTY TRICKS WEEKENDS HAVE BEGUN!!! Pathwalker Jan 2016 #91
"Not marked" is not the same as "Not classified". jeff47 Jan 2016 #182
Overclassification? daybranch Jan 2016 #17
no, it's that the government doesn't like to provide the public access to how it does business geek tragedy Jan 2016 #21
It's obvious the CIA classfied Hilliary's secret yoga moves and some top secret Akicita Jan 2016 #149
When will she be indicted? Reter Jan 2016 #20
Stop watching Fox News. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #23
It's on every news channel Reter Jan 2016 #58
Stop watching Fox News. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #60
Thank you, geek tragedy. You represent your candidate well. Metric System Jan 2016 #104
Don't watch Fox Reter Jan 2016 #152
"Massive federal crime" lol sure you don't watch Fox nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #159
Yes - federal crime. I don't even have cable TV. 840high Jan 2016 #202
no-hillary-did-not-commit-a-crime- Ana Hauhet Jan 2016 #239
No, she wont. You forget who we're talking about. Someone else will take the fall. 7962 Jan 2016 #122
And then the minions will get jobs Yupster Jan 2016 #140
There you have it. 7962 Jan 2016 #143
Who do you know who's been indicted for documents retroactively classified? pnwmom Jan 2016 #25
It is completely unlikely that these top secret threads were discussing things in the public domain karynnj Jan 2016 #33
it's actually highly unlikely the top secret designation has anything to do with national security geek tragedy Jan 2016 #39
Disingenuous estimate - even accepting the premise karynnj Jan 2016 #49
do you consider the existence of the CIA's drone program to be "top secret?" geek tragedy Jan 2016 #51
I agree there is over classification - but these are not confidential, but top secret nt karynnj Jan 2016 #54
they certainly do overclassify stuff as top secret too. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #71
TS/SCI and SAPs require tons of paperwork to justify. jeff47 Jan 2016 #186
Are you serious? This isn't a procedural issue. The *content* is top secret regardless. JudyM Jan 2016 #35
Same question regarding her IWR vote: Criminal or Incompetent? Either way, she should be AzDar Jan 2016 #24
so you believe the Fox News spin on this. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #27
After two decades of villifying Hillary Clinton we have plenty of right-wing kool-aid drinkers here LynneSin Jan 2016 #80
seriously, embracing the security state's hatred of transparency in an effort to score geek tragedy Jan 2016 #86
If all the news reports are talking about this, why keep insisting its just Fox? 7962 Jan 2016 #123
every news story has stated as a factual matter geek tragedy Jan 2016 #124
Many reporters have said as much, yes. Especially incompetent. 7962 Jan 2016 #127
which beacons of journalistic credibility have stated geek tragedy Jan 2016 #139
I saw it on Chris Cuomo's show; one of his reporters, 7962 Jan 2016 #145
That the email server was a mistake has already been conceded. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #222
Except that it wasnt just a "mistake". There's also this: 7962 Jan 2016 #240
Lol, Murdoch Post. Very revealing. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #241
Shooting the messenger again. 7962 Feb 2016 #242
Yes, it's there, in the NY Post. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #243
Its not an op-ed, its an interview. There's a difference 7962 Feb 2016 #245
ABC opened with this tonight. 840high Jan 2016 #204
You must watch Fox. You seem 840high Jan 2016 #203
I know the "throw Hillary in jail" cries come from the bowels geek tragedy Jan 2016 #221
perfect summation left lowrider Jan 2016 #40
Why is the administration doing this? mvd Jan 2016 #26
it's career bureaucrats doing it. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #31
This is correctly being done by career professionals in the state department karynnj Jan 2016 #42
Ok thanks for the explanation mvd Jan 2016 #45
See post #47 for the answer to your question. Akicita Jan 2016 #56
Hillary's campaign wants them 840high Jan 2016 #205
This is standard with Freedom of Information Act releases. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #30
Wow rtracey Jan 2016 #34
I Remember hearing that in a earlier email Hillary was giving instructions on awake Jan 2016 #36
Bug-man said an indictment was coming Roland99 Jan 2016 #38
All they have is 22 retroactively Re-classified emails out of 30,000 total..?? lobodons Jan 2016 #41
The only time Hillary tells the truth is if she tells a double lie (nt) nyabingi Jan 2016 #44
What's the problem with classified emails anyway? yallerdawg Jan 2016 #50
The problem is electability. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #82
You understand this is all more Benghazi Republican mischief? yallerdawg Jan 2016 #103
No, I don't understand it that way. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #108
That's your interpretation. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #110
Yes I am. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #112
The "covered eyes & ears" syndrome IS amazing isnt it? nt 7962 Jan 2016 #125
No I don't. 840high Jan 2016 #206
Was it classified when it was received/sent? Molusko Jan 2016 #57
All we've been told is that they were not "marked Classified" which means nothing because no secret Akicita Jan 2016 #66
What happens if Huma sends classified info to Hillary Yupster Jan 2016 #141
Exactly Akicita Jan 2016 #147
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #216
All the emails are being reviewed for release to the public. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #70
I don't know about over-classification, but for sure there's some over exceptionalism HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #61
As with all the Clinton email stories--this will be debunked quickly. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #62
So they are spinning it as overclassification. Clever, but not good enough. Now they are impugning thereismore Jan 2016 #64
so you've reviewed these documents and can verify that the Fox News spin on this geek tragedy Jan 2016 #81
Don't drag Fox into this. It's Obama's people saying this. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #83
really? Which Obama people are saying Clinton broke the law and is going to get geek tragedy Jan 2016 #89
Obama's people are saying her emails contained information of the highest sensitivity. thereismore Jan 2016 #93
state department FOIA bureaucrats are saying that, not Obama's inner circle geek tragedy Jan 2016 #94
It's the Obama administration. He is the top executive and they are his people. Got it? nt thereismore Jan 2016 #95
career civil servants are not Obama's people any more than they were geek tragedy Jan 2016 #96
Don't insult me and take your bone somewhere else. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #98
that post was not insulting and none of my bones are out of place nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #109
Either way, they are not 'Fox News' John Poet Jan 2016 #174
Not Fox. 840high Jan 2016 #196
yeah, it's "overclassification"... Angel Martin Jan 2016 #214
facebook MondoCane Jan 2016 #69
Thank god it's Friday, where stories go to die. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #99
You forgot /Sarc tag IamTheNoodle Jan 2016 #106
Just reported on NPR Arazi Jan 2016 #105
I just find these accusations very sexist. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #111
Sarcasm? JudyM Jan 2016 #146
Groan. 840high Jan 2016 #207
No...More...Clintons. SoapBox Jan 2016 #128
.... 840high Jan 2016 #208
Thanks again, Sanders supporters! 6000eliot Jan 2016 #151
The FBI cares Reter Jan 2016 #153
According to liars like Issa and Delay, 6000eliot Jan 2016 #162
The FBI doesn't serve under Issa or Delay. frylock Jan 2016 #167
Whatever. Ho hum. 6000eliot Jan 2016 #191
We're a year into this shit, but.. frylock Jan 2016 #163
True, if by "shit" you mean "right-wing smears against Hillary Clinton." 6000eliot Jan 2016 #164
No, I mean Hillary's shit show.. frylock Jan 2016 #166
This "colassal fuck up" is evidence of Hillary's superior John Poet Jan 2016 #175
How boring. 6000eliot Jan 2016 #190
Utterly droll frylock Jan 2016 #197
You bet she does. 840high Jan 2016 #211
None of Those 22 New Hillary Emails Were Classified When They Were Sent still_one Jan 2016 #183
They were all stripped out of other agency classified documents leveymg Jan 2016 #226
The Administration cares. 840high Jan 2016 #209
why leave out that NONE of those emails were classified when they were sent? still_one Jan 2016 #180
Hey! MrWendel Jan 2016 #185
In fact here is the real story that Sanders' supporters want to ignore still_one Jan 2016 #188
Because that isn't true. jeff47 Jan 2016 #187
The state department John Kirby came out and said they were NOT classified at the time still_one Jan 2016 #189
Once again, not marked is different than not being classified. jeff47 Jan 2016 #192
Nothing is going to happen. The only ones who are making this an issue are republicans and Sanders still_one Jan 2016 #193
Just rock back and forth, telling yourself that. jeff47 Jan 2016 #195
You're living in De Nile. 840high Jan 2016 #212
Easy way to settle it. Even if classified, the President has authority to declassify material 24601 Jan 2016 #218
Worst case senario is if she defeats Bernie in the primary Calista241 Jan 2016 #225
Worst case scenario... AngryOldDem Jan 2016 #228
No, if she wins and has to vacate, her VP would take over. Calista241 Jan 2016 #234
Patreus gave secrets to his mistress, who was a reporter, Darb Feb 2016 #247
Hillary is a fucking anvil that will sink the Democratic Party... Odin2005 Jan 2016 #230
+1 CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #232
More than slightly hyperbolic. Darb Feb 2016 #246
legally not guilty creon Mar 2016 #248
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