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philosslayer

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Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:18 PM Jan 2016

Mayor of Cologne says women should have code of conduct to prevent future assault [View all]

Source: UK Independent

The Mayor of Cologne said today that women should adopt a “code of conduct” to prevent future assault at a crisis meeting following the sexual attack of women by 1000 men on New Year’s eve.

Mayor Henriette Reker attended an emergency meeting with Chief of Police Wolfgang Albers and Wolfgang Wurm to discuss how to deal with the attack, where dozens of women were repeatedly touched and groped, with one case of alleged rape in the center of town.

“It is important to prevent such incidents from ever happening again,” said Mayor Reker, as reported in German by RP Online. “We have heard by now that they [the attacks] have occurred in other cities. This of course is not comforting to us.”


Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mayor-of-cologne-says-women-should-have-code-of-conduct-to-prevent-future-assault-a6798186.html

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Oh yes, blaming the victim. coyote Jan 2016 #1
+10000000 TubbersUK Jan 2016 #5
Nobody is blaming victims anigbrowl Jan 2016 #7
I would agree philosslayer Jan 2016 #8
Common sense suggestions? LisaL Jan 2016 #17
Right! boobooday Jan 2016 #103
Then should these common sense suggestions apply to males also? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #89
It's bullshit, not common sense. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #124
Next you will tell us that if these were legitimate gropes the victims' bodies have a way to shut it AngryAmish Jan 2016 #151
what is your handle at DI? snooper2 Jan 2016 #171
Stick with your own group? LisaL Jan 2016 #20
Stop being ridiculous. Desert805 Jan 2016 #60
Umm no, "code of conduct", does not have a different implication in German as to the US coyote Jan 2016 #24
Well, I think their complaints are misplaced anigbrowl Jan 2016 #25
That's the problem right there... coyote Jan 2016 #29
Try again anigbrowl Jan 2016 #40
I find your last paragraph to be a disgusting mitigation of the actions of a criminal mob of men Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #49
Then you can't have read it very carefully anigbrowl Jan 2016 #50
Oh I have read it carefully. coyote Jan 2016 #67
I ams ure you are aware anigbrowl Jan 2016 #136
so you take the mayor to be saying that North African/Arab/Muslim culture is that women are asking geek tragedy Jan 2016 #140
No. That may be your interpretation but I do not share it. nt anigbrowl Jan 2016 #141
Hummmm...... RobinA Jan 2016 #52
In the US the harassing guys might run the risk of getting shot by one of the women also. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #163
Well fortunately Europe doesn't have the gun culture that the US does philosslayer Jan 2016 #167
some Germans commented on the mayors code of conduct that: coyote Jan 2016 #36
Safety Advice RobinA Jan 2016 #51
Yes. That'll probably pass eventually. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #53
From what has been reported, these women were surrounded by large groups of men and attacked. LisaL Jan 2016 #97
Exactly TubbersUK Jan 2016 #105
Do you think keeping a rapist " at arms length" is a sane sufrommich Jan 2016 #88
Apparently some posters here think it's a great safety advice. LisaL Jan 2016 #94
Well,there's one way. sufrommich Jan 2016 #95
They could set up a force field around themselves, keeping others out. raccoon Jan 2016 #106
Wie geht's? I agree. The Mayor might as well require women to JDPriestly Jan 2016 #37
Articles on this said families and couples were surrounded and attacked flamingdem Jan 2016 #64
Good Point TubbersUK Jan 2016 #107
I know, and it sickens me that some on this board are trying to minimize the smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #144
How do you walk at arm's length getting off a crowded train TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #41
Ridiculous indeed anigbrowl Jan 2016 #43
My hat is a cowgirl hat worn by Ann Richards. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #87
I would not blame you for wearing that 24/7! anigbrowl Jan 2016 #159
Ahhh TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #187
Good question TubbersUK Jan 2016 #46
bs, that is EXACTLY what is happening. saying that women's behaviour is responsible is niyad Jan 2016 #57
Only she never said women's behavior was responsible anigbrowl Jan 2016 #62
according to her, only the victims need to change their behavior. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #100
That is not true. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #135
yes, her stance is that the city needs to explain to Arabs that rape isn't okay. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #137
That is not true either. Clearly there is no point in further conversation with you. nt anigbrowl Jan 2016 #138
from the translation of your link: geek tragedy Jan 2016 #139
can we say "completely clueless" here? what in the HELL do you think that is? how goddamned niyad Jan 2016 #110
That is not my opinion at all anigbrowl Jan 2016 #157
shaking my head. . . . niyad Jan 2016 #164
I don't see the mayor's statement as victim-blaming I see it as breathtakingly naive denial Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #150
I somewhat agree anigbrowl Jan 2016 #158
I'm at a loss to understand the need to be diplomatic with gangs of rapists. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #162
That's because there isn't one. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #170
A lot of innocent people have already been attacked. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #172
A point I made myself about 90 minutes ago...#158. No need to increase that number. nt anigbrowl Jan 2016 #179
Lying to the people and telling them they didn't see the horrific thing they know they saw Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #184
You're right. christx30 Jan 2016 #193
The irony is she herself advocated for those who raped to come to her city. Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #177
Untrue. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #180
Women being mob-assaulted is not a new phenomenon for the cultures involved. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #185
But EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #78
I don't know who you're addressing that to anigbrowl Jan 2016 #134
they are EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #142
Still don't know who you are talking about, or what anigbrowl Jan 2016 #149
The word she used is "Regeln", which means rules. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #125
None of her advice would have prevented an attack such as being discussed here. LisaL Jan 2016 #129
Right, and thus it is insulting and blaming the victim - at best a misdirection from the issue. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #132
Also mace to the face. They forgot that one. elehhhhna Jan 2016 #131
Maybe it was a bad translation? eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #146
Sure sounds like victim blaming to me too. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #11
Yep 840high Jan 2016 #32
I had the same thought MosheFeingold Jan 2016 #31
+10000000 trillion Jan 2016 #68
Let's see. How about never going out of the house without a male relative? enough Jan 2016 #2
Better yet, just stay home. LisaL Jan 2016 #23
Cook and play with your kids. LuvNewcastle Jan 2016 #81
That's exactly how German women are reacting. For good reason. Julia Kloeckner was right. n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #126
rec for wtf uppityperson Jan 2016 #3
Let me fix that for you. eggplant Jan 2016 #28
For all of them? Lancero Jan 2016 #34
I just want to see if I have this right. frizzled Jan 2016 #4
Muslim men can do it romanic Jan 2016 #13
You're right. It's been a growing problem. n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #18
...^ that 840high Jan 2016 #33
Because the poor babeez are oppressed and we cannot possibly smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #44
You've hit on something I've leftynyc Jan 2016 #75
Too many, still. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #133
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique (AHA Conference 2015) FrodosPet Jan 2016 #152
That's disgusting. Obviously Germany is not safe for women and she blames the women. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #6
Might be "problematic" based on who committed the crimes ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #9
No need to say more philosslayer Jan 2016 #12
Keep doing your performance art ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #15
No one is doing anything of the sort philosslayer Jan 2016 #16
Except that it is. Until the messaging took over, even the police were saying that it was. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #21
It's also not tied to the 'behavior' of women walking to the station. That's the point here. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #22
Unless police got all of the attackers, how does she know who they were? LisaL Jan 2016 #39
No, it's tied to the children of refugees from TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #42
I think it was men who committed the crimes... LanternWaste Jan 2016 #92
Maybe She Lives RobinA Jan 2016 #54
That's true but it adds up to so much "furniture in the mind" and constant level of background worry lostnfound Jan 2016 #65
No Argument RobinA Jan 2016 #117
So you seem to think that it's woman's responsibility to prevent these attacks? LisaL Jan 2016 #127
WTF. How about a "code of conduct" for MEN?! CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #10
Serously! How about that code includes JAIL, FFS! And the mayor is a woman. Squinch Jan 2016 #27
That's it TubbersUK Jan 2016 #47
Thank YOU! I would go one further and impose a curfew smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #45
Sounds good to me. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #48
This appears counter-intuitive. If the the problem you're trying to solve is ensuring that it's safe 24601 Jan 2016 #130
Ten Rape Prevention Tips FrodosPet Jan 2016 #70
Good. Let me post that for you. trillion Jan 2016 #71
Wow - that is MOST excellent....nt jonno99 Jan 2016 #153
Fuck you, Henriette Warpy Jan 2016 #14
So " she was asking for it" has returned? Ridiculous. 7962 Jan 2016 #19
"asking for it" has never left, sadly. the denial of the existence of rape culture is not in the niyad Jan 2016 #112
Guess i'll never understand how anyone could think "She asked for it" 7962 Jan 2016 #121
because the patriarchy sees women as strictly here for the benefit of men, and excuses niyad Jan 2016 #123
don't forget, there is a state rep in NH who thinks that, if a woman is breastfeeding in public, niyad Jan 2016 #161
just when i think i've heard it all. sick.... 7962 Jan 2016 #175
the woman-hating bastard in maine has been in office since at least 1995 (which was when he niyad Jan 2016 #176
You have GOT to be kidding me. I live in New England and haven't heard of that. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #189
it was reported here on du a number of times. let me see if I can find some of the links. niyad Jan 2016 #190
here is a video one: niyad Jan 2016 #191
and another one: niyad Jan 2016 #194
What a disgusting little twerp. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #195
pretty much. one has to wonder about the kind of sick mental processing going on in what niyad Jan 2016 #196
It is the attackers who need a code of conduct treestar Jan 2016 #26
^^^THIS^^^ SunSeeker Jan 2016 #35
How About this one: jonno99 Jan 2016 #154
+1 treestar Jan 2016 #186
The last paragraph may shed some light on this jmowreader Jan 2016 #30
Well, It Wasn't RobinA Jan 2016 #55
But did she follow the code of conduct when she was attacked? LisaL Jan 2016 #91
She didn't change her behavior. Thus,this idiocy. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #156
It seems she has an odd psychological fixation. bt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #90
Obviously she should have kept her attacker sufrommich Jan 2016 #99
Please tell me you forgot the sarcasm tag jmowreader Jan 2016 #102
I don't think it needs the tag. nt sufrommich Jan 2016 #104
How about men having a code of conduct to prevent such incidents from ever happening again? LeftishBrit Jan 2016 #38
Ten Rape Prevention Tips FrodosPet Jan 2016 #69
Some on DU will probably agree Democat Jan 2016 #56
and why is it that this mass assault on women has not received wider coverage? of course, niyad Jan 2016 #58
The German government strongly discourage inflammatory news stories philosslayer Jan 2016 #59
They are correct, cool heads need to prevale mwrguy Jan 2016 #63
A happy, peace keeping lie is FAR more noble than upsetting, potentially inflammatory truth FrodosPet Jan 2016 #73
The Donald would condemn this as the dreaded "political correctness". pampango Jan 2016 #84
It's one of the top BBC headlines over here T_i_B Jan 2016 #85
Complete with enablers like Cologne's mayor nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #98
I never saw that OP, or heard anything about that horror. niyad Jan 2016 #113
Rotherham is local to me T_i_B Jan 2016 #119
will read up on it. sadly, not surprised that media here did not cover it. niyad Jan 2016 #120
There was an NYT article about it at the time T_i_B Jan 2016 #122
Check out the comments on the NY Times smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #145
page not found. niyad Jan 2016 #165
Sorry, let me look for a better link. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #168
thank you!! this link worked. and, yes, the comments do give one hope. niyad Jan 2016 #169
Sanity, at last! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #173
it is, indeed. niyad Jan 2016 #174
Common sense safety precautions hate women. Desert805 Jan 2016 #61
Whether it is from white frat boys, North Africans, or creatures from Andromeda, FrodosPet Jan 2016 #74
No woman (man or child) should have to worry about lots of Desert805 Jan 2016 #79
+10000000000000 CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #83
If simply 'common sense precautions', why were the specifically directed towards women LanternWaste Jan 2016 #93
What a silly response. Desert805 Jan 2016 #116
Besides being in public, what common sense rules did they violate? nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #101
None as far as I can see from the reports n/t TubbersUK Jan 2016 #109
Bingo. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #114
what next, government-issued burkas? geek tragedy Jan 2016 #66
They may as well say what they really mean - the victim had it coming and the men who do it trillion Jan 2016 #72
Here you go... smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #147
Mayor Reker was seriously wounded herself in October when she was stabbed in the neck Kalidurga Jan 2016 #76
Possible but I suspect it is even more obvious than that ... Nihil Jan 2016 #86
There's wrong and wrong anigbrowl Jan 2016 #160
There is also a world of difference ... Nihil Jan 2016 #183
Who stabbed her? nt flamingdem Jan 2016 #108
An anti-immigration thug Kalidurga Jan 2016 #143
Fuck that. Better educate the immigrants what's unacceptable behaviour. DetlefK Jan 2016 #77
Or maybe better educate all males, regardless of country of origin... LanternWaste Jan 2016 #96
When in Rome do as the Romans do. bklyncowgirl Jan 2016 #80
I think that is what enrages me more than anything. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #148
Wait, Whut? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #82
A politician used the term "code of conduct" Babel_17 Jan 2016 #111
Come on ... Amaya Jan 2016 #115
Why didn't the victims vomit or urinate on the attackers? Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #118
of course, because everyone can vomit on demand, or urinate. or, did you forget the niyad Jan 2016 #166
I thought it was so over the top that the sarcasm was implied. Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #181
that was the reason I asked. niyad Jan 2016 #188
Good idea HassleCat Jan 2016 #128
How about an 8pm curfew for all males? SheilaT Jan 2016 #155
How about a code of conduct for the criminals and law enforcement? merrily Jan 2016 #178
Telling someone to be careful cheapdate Jan 2016 #182
Holy Schiess! Ken Burch Jan 2016 #192
The phrase code-of-conduct is disturbing PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #197
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