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In reply to the discussion: Appeals court: judge didn't have power to hear DC gun case [View all]Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)39. I'm trying to change the narrative, we have so many myths surrounding firearms that people...
just buy without question, like that they are good for self defense, that they are safe, etc. when what research that does exist actually shows the opposite. I'm thinking long term here, ideally, in a few generations or so, gun ownership here will be as low as its becoming in the UK or Australia. This is becoming an American peculiarity, and the amount of firearm deaths we suffer seems to bear out how utterly batshit insane it is.
The fact that we have 80 million people owning approximately 300 million firearms is a problem.
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No. We are just supposed to find solutions that are fair, unbiased and constitutional.
hack89
Dec 2015
#8
So would random home inspections be allowed, or is everything you propose just hot air?
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#20
"(R)andom home inspections"? Absolutely not. It seems that you want to dump the Fourth Amendment...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#29
I would find it reasonable for the government to require that people have gun safes and trigger...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#31
It doesn't matter. What you propose is still a gross violation of the Fourth Amendment...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#33
Why? It would only be checking up on status of and use of the safes and weapons...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#34
What part of 'probable cause' are you having trouble comprehending?
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#35
Oh damn, I'm debating a capital L libertarian. No further discussion possible. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#41
Where are police conducting vehicle safety checks at a person's home? The equivalent of a stopping
24601
Dec 2015
#54
Because we are talking about the inspection of equipment that's installed in the home...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#56
The inspections are during construction/installation. But once the work is complete, the fire
24601
Dec 2015
#59
Not true, houses are reinspected when purchased and/or sold as well...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#61
Just sold and just bought a home. Have done so 4 times in the last 5 1/2 years. One red state
24601
Dec 2015
#63
Owning firearms is in no way comparable to freedom of expression or worship, that's a ridiculous...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#64
I love it when people stumble on the car comparison. OK, let's be like cars. My drivers license
24601
Dec 2015
#99
What if long rifles were left alone, if we followed, roughly the Canadian model.
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#87
Are any of those infallible? Also, I didn't say the police would be involved, and again...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#75
So emotional, and over the possession of an inanimate object with few uses, why? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#80
There are literally thousands of instances of firearms being used for self defense,
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#88
And there are scientific studies that indicate that you are many times more likely to be the...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#90
I linked to a meta-analysis that is apparently independent of both, though does source Hemenway....
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#94
I don't consider gun ownership a right, it sounds ridiculous to me, its a hobby that...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#32
"I don't consider gun ownership a right" The Supreme Court and over 80 million Americans *do*...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#37
I'm trying to change the narrative, we have so many myths surrounding firearms that people...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#39
Its about as relevent as the 3rd amendment. The others are still useful...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#42
Can you demonstrate where the 2nd amendment prevented government oppression at...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#45
I'm sorry, the fact you credit the 2nd amendment for that is laughable...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#50
So wait, we are supposed to tolerate having 10s of thousands of people die every year...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#52
I would say you should need to justify why you need to own a firearm. Why do you need a gun? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#55
You can say that, but until your nomination as Secretary of Needs is confirmed by the Senate...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#69
Actually, hunting and pest control seem effective, I really have a problem with handguns....
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#98
I'm sorry, but the "right" to gun ownership is in no way comparable to any other civil...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#73
And I'm not sorry that the SCOTUS and the majority of Americans disagree with you . eom.
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#76
True, and that's fine, what I find interesting is that gun ownership is declining...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#79
It varies from a 41% to around a third, and I've seen people here say its 80 million....
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#86
I did, and the study said no such thing, it said those numbers were suspect...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#92
It most certainly did say that DGU's were as frequent and the criminal use of a firearm.
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#95
When they are bought for the purpose of transporting to places where they are restricted,
-none
Dec 2015
#14
So the answer is to give cops and the government the power to discriminate based on personal bias?
hack89
Dec 2015
#7
True, but that should be introduced into the conversation, unlike other anachronistic amendments....
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#23
I would say that's the fault of our society, owning guns should have to be justified, and not...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#65