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Half-Century Man

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81. Belief in a hell makes you mean.

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 02:37 AM

Nov 2015

You have to accept that the one that everybody claims to love you the most (he sacrificed himself/only son in your honor) is willing to burn you in a fiery lake of molten rock for considering rule breaking in 1/14000000th of your existence.

A 100 year earthly life (as part of the eternal existence of the soul) compared to the closest example of eternity; the 14 billion year scientific estimate on the age of the universe. According to what I have been warned about, you don't even have to commit sins, thinking about them is enough to cause damnation.

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Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds [View all] newthinking Nov 2015 OP

"Meaner" is as good a word as any. nt GoneFishin Nov 2015 #1

I thought so too. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #30

In essence, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #2

Oh to folks like them too. After all, everyone is a 'sinner'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #8

Indoctrination is not a healthy thing! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #53

Likewise the party of the religious right is meaner than the more secular party (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2015 #3

Maybe we need studies to get this to make headlines. (sarcasm). Nt JudyM Nov 2015 #7

They'd just defund them or make then illegal Moliere Nov 2015 #21

My first thought was perhaps those who choose to be religious could be more likely Chemisse Nov 2015 #4

It's a mind screw mdbl Nov 2015 #5

Good point. Chemisse Nov 2015 #6

Faith thru fear of punishment.Authoritarian & condescending rightousness bjobotts Nov 2015 #75

"...combined with harsh consequences (spankings, hell)." Cal Carpenter Nov 2015 #63

Definitely more judgmental & also arrogant and condescending nt ailsagirl Nov 2015 #67

I learned THAT in grade school Demeter Nov 2015 #9

Oh, you were one of THOSE... (kidding) LiberalElite Nov 2015 #16

It makes sense Fairgo Nov 2015 #10

A Very Thoughtful Insight--thank you! Demeter Nov 2015 #19

Religion teaches whathehell Nov 2015 #20

It really depends which church you go to. Remember that church that protested the homeless shelter trillion Nov 2015 #80

Yes! Right to the point. maddiemom Nov 2015 #28

Yes. In a nutshell. Chemisse Nov 2015 #73

It makes perfect sense Perseus Nov 2015 #11

Karl Marx was NOT condemning religion as a drug that puts you in a stupor fasttense Nov 2015 #33

Except that opium addiction has been around much longer than Marx and even influenced geopolitics Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #45

Of course opium addiction was around fasttense Nov 2015 #56

My understanding from reading information Perseus Nov 2015 #59

There are many myths about Marx fasttense Nov 2015 #62

Yep, religion is just a tool of the PTB to divide and conquer. I remember my valerief Nov 2015 #50

My mom grew up Catholic daleo Nov 2015 #68

It was crazier than thinking a strange man broke into your house once a year. valerief Nov 2015 #72

LOL. Lionel Mandrake Nov 2015 #88

sad but seems to have a high degree of correlation with my experiences dembotoz Nov 2015 #12

I learned this when I became a UU 11 years ago JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #13

Love this post. Kids are great. Thanks for the smile! Demit Nov 2015 #18

When you give kids the room to question mountain grammy Nov 2015 #37

I would have gotten the same soap JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #55

Great story! Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #86

Reminds me madokie Nov 2015 #14

My experience has been that ultra-religious upbringing also leads to assholery as adults Major Nikon Nov 2015 #15

Well, duh... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2015 #17

I think the same can be said for organized politics. tavernier Nov 2015 #22

Funny, I think that's true of most organized groups with a hierarchy. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #89

I still canvas and hold up signs tavernier Nov 2015 #90

I remember as a child in school with my friends polly7 Nov 2015 #23

That is quite a story, polly7. Thanks for sharing that. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #26

I'm actually crying a bit thinking of it here ... polly7 Nov 2015 #29

I also grew up in a very small community so I witnessed similar events. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #31

I'm sorry you witnessed it too. I'm kind of amazed it still affects me so much, probably mostly polly7 Nov 2015 #35

This is why the attitude I see on Fox "News" when they promote intolerance and bullying Enthusiast Nov 2015 #54

I would enjoy reading your post, but the bug is distracting. olegramps Nov 2015 #39

Sorry, but I like the bug. It's for LOonix, a great poster missed by many people. polly7 Nov 2015 #41

LOonix aside, I hate the bug and to be honest with you it is so annoying to my old eyes that I have Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #47

Well, sorry about that. polly7 Nov 2015 #48

That brings back a memory or two.. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #42

That's terrible. polly7 Nov 2015 #44

It is natural for children raised in a strict religious tradition to be less tolerant of Enthusiast Nov 2015 #24

Our Freedom of religion & the freedom, the right to place a Church anywhere (tax free) is IMO, Sunlei Nov 2015 #32

Neil DeGrasse Tyson on "intelligent design" Cyrano Nov 2015 #25

Ooohhh, that is too funny... mantis49 Nov 2015 #38

He was great on Larry!!! nt valerief Nov 2015 #52

Wait, ZombieHorde Nov 2015 #91

yes, 'religious' kids especially a pack' can be Lord of the flies or romeny scissorhands cruel Sunlei Nov 2015 #27

As is often the case with research in the social sciences, the proxies may be poor struggle4progress Nov 2015 #34

This would not be true of the very liberal, socially-active Protestant denomination... DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #36

IMO, Spot On! NonMetro Nov 2015 #61

Thank you, NonMetro! DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #65

Your point about the "broad brush", though, is something people need to think about NonMetro Nov 2015 #87

Regardless of the church you come from... SharpProgress Nov 2015 #83

I wonder if any of the attitude can be traced to the whole TlalocW Nov 2015 #40

I've never heard that it's not important to make right with people one wrongs. What faith teaches that? DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #43

Their parents are meaner, too. nt valerief Nov 2015 #46

Religion is tribal by definition.... paleotn Nov 2015 #49

Oh ya! SoapBox Nov 2015 #51

Religious children and people in general are meaner and less moral PufPuf23 Nov 2015 #57

They could have just called me. snort Nov 2015 #58

The Mormons in my family are the worst people I've ever met. trillion Nov 2015 #78

I'm sorry to say this seems true to me, based on an example in my own family. Aristus Nov 2015 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Nov 2015 #69

especially those damn Methodists MisterP Nov 2015 #64

This comes as no surprise to anyone who survived childhood daleo Nov 2015 #66

First question: Why was this published in a Biology journal? bananas Nov 2015 #70

Wow, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Initech Nov 2015 #71

I agree kimbutgar Nov 2015 #74

Especially the fundy ones. trillion Nov 2015 #76

I totally believe the results of this study. Try being WestSeattle2 Nov 2015 #77

Interesting choice of words here. The word 'mean' in the context it is used in the PatrickforO Nov 2015 #79

Belief in a hell makes you mean. Half-Century Man Nov 2015 #81

Anyone who grew up non-religious.... SharpProgress Nov 2015 #82

And as they grow up, they become hateful, bitter old coots who vote Republican while silvershadow Nov 2015 #84

The ultimate authority figure is the invisible judge who sees all.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #85