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76. The "better late than never" and "this is HUGH!!" group
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:17 PM
May 2012

(and I strongly suspect some of the "timing is significant" crowd as well) are once again displaying a paternalistic attitude towards black folks that has nothing to do with reality. And you said it perfectly, "Their preconceived notions are now turned on their heads." I noticed some other black posters upthread also wondering at some of the comments in this thread.

We've been talking about this issue a bit in the AA forum for the last week, before the NAACP's announcement. http://www.democraticunderground.com/11871581

One poster posted an analysis after the Prop 8 debacle in California, which was also placed at the feet of black Americans until that was proven to be incorrect, that found that when religion was placed aside, black folks actually opposed Prop 8 at greater numbers than anyone. And religious whites still supported the Prop more than any other group. We all know that blacks can be homophobic but this meme that we have somehow cornered the market on homophobia and are worse than everyone else is racist and offensive but alot of folks have still swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

(You really must read the piece from The Black Snob from the thread as well. She sums up the combination of disgust, resigned acceptance and bewilderment that many blacks feel about being held to a different standard on this issue in a way that very much parallels my own feelings.)

I strongly suspect that is what's leading to much of the "OH MY GOD!! THIS IS HUGH!!" here from folks who are apparently blissfully unaware that the NAACP leadership and membership has quietly and not-so quietly supported marriage equality for a while now. I am still so happy to hear of this announcement. It's the right thing for them to do. But it would also be great if this was not crouched in so much SHOCK! and SURPRISE!! as if people cannot believe that a group that represents black people would feel this way on the issue. Lots of us do.

K&R !!! This is so great to hear. NOM was working to turn the African RKP5637 May 2012 #1
Game over. You lose, NOM bigots. beac May 2012 #5
NAACP Press Release: Hissyspit May 2012 #21
Prejudice against one group is prejudice against all. I'm delighted to see calimary May 2012 #23
Black religious conservatives want to "vote away the gay" rights in Maryland RainDog May 2012 #37
YES! HangOnKids May 2012 #2
This is really, really great news! cbayer May 2012 #3
Please! Everybody R&K. Big News! longship May 2012 #4
Fantastic News!! K and R goclark May 2012 #19
Took them long enough to do it. hrmjustin May 2012 #6
Do you have a list NOLALady May 2012 #18
I expected them do this years ago. hrmjustin May 2012 #20
Why ? n/t jaysunb May 2012 #25
Maybe to help ruggerson May 2012 #48
The way I see it NOLALady May 2012 #73
they are a civil rights organization. hrmjustin May 2012 #69
Which other major NOLALady May 2012 #27
It's always helpful when major Christian churches announce their support ruggerson May 2012 #52
Every single civil rights group in my opinion. hrmjustin May 2012 #68
Here is a list - it may not be complete, but it is a start whopis01 May 2012 #74
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has, since 1995. pnwmom May 2012 #80
N.O.W, for instance -- since 1995. pnwmom May 2012 #79
Some backbones take a little longer to solidify. calimary May 2012 #24
they never had a problem with backbone before hrmjustin May 2012 #70
they have supported marriage equality for a long time. nt nofurylike May 2012 #83
Wow. Wasn't expecting this. Great news! nt dorkulon May 2012 #7
Excellent. sabrina 1 May 2012 #8
Great and remarkable news. swimboy May 2012 #9
That is fantastic! Maven May 2012 #10
k & r n/t ejbr May 2012 #11
Now we're talking! Iggo May 2012 #12
A great coalition is getting stronger. grantcart May 2012 #13
Thanks to the activists ruggerson May 2012 #53
K effin' R great white snark May 2012 #14
K&R ---this is a major development imho...the freakazoids are going to hurt themselves twisting this Malikshah May 2012 #15
OMG! That's fantastic!!! lunatica May 2012 #16
Mind if I join you? rocktivity May 2012 #36
Dominoes. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #17
So pleased to hear this ... Trajan May 2012 #22
And I endorse this post! Ex-Pat Pats Fan May 2012 #26
Clearly they are part of the gay agenda. nt onehandle May 2012 #28
Awesome News! NoMittens May 2012 #29
It's about time! invictus May 2012 #30
Great news!! dbackjon May 2012 #31
This is yet another 'big fucking deal' southmost May 2012 #32
Rec. progressoid May 2012 #33
Very, very good news!! nt stillwaiting May 2012 #34
EXCELLENT! RainDog May 2012 #35
This is where Obama's influence truely shines. craigmatic May 2012 #38
+1 ruggerson May 2012 #46
This is why his endorsement counts lunatica May 2012 #65
wonderful news!! Blue_Tires May 2012 #39
Great news, but the blowback out there is ugly. Faygo Kid May 2012 #40
same at yahoo..... Grassy Knoll May 2012 #43
Agreed. I am hopeful that it is just rhetoric and does not escalate to actions. With bigots,however Malikshah May 2012 #49
Outstanding News! NT aaaaaa5a May 2012 #41
Beautiful. EFerrari May 2012 #42
This is huge because so many African-American pastors have spoke out against marriage equality LynneSin May 2012 #44
The bully pulpit works - great news ruggerson May 2012 #45
Details on the N.A.AC.P's evolution. PragmaticLiberal May 2012 #47
This is awesome. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #50
nice La Lioness Priyanka May 2012 #51
That means a lot. More people will follow. Obama is showing great leadership. applegrove May 2012 #54
right on. robinlynne May 2012 #55
This is the "change" people. Gee, I wonder why this doesn't have 500 recs? Hmmmmm...... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #56
hmmmm ruggerson May 2012 #57
I'm on the other side of the fence from you for a change Number23 May 2012 #63
The timing is significant lunatica May 2012 #66
The completley unnecessary tone of your post Number23 May 2012 #75
i believe you misread the information in that post you slammed. nofurylike May 2012 #84
Unlike you, in college, I was so selfish and uninvolved. I voted, but that's about it. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #72
The "better late than never" and "this is HUGH!!" group Number23 May 2012 #76
Oh, and you said one other thing that was perfect Number23 May 2012 #77
Remember NOM also is using it's strategy on the Latino Community - networking & attention is needed SockyMonky May 2012 #58
Better late then never. This is good news. nt Unite2DefeatGOP May 2012 #59
yay DonCoquixote May 2012 #60
K&R and it's about time n/t azurnoir May 2012 #61
Kick pinto May 2012 #62
Of note... SockyMonky May 2012 #64
Awesome News!! TNLib May 2012 #67
Another Civil Rights issue ArivacaCharlie May 2012 #71
K & R! Amaril May 2012 #78
k&r!!! Yeah! 6502 May 2012 #81
Just watched Benjamin Jealous, President of NAACP on Rachel Maddox....very moved by what he said.... Pachamama May 2012 #82
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