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Response to BigD_95 (Reply #58)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:52 AM

67. There is evidence that conflicts with Zimmerman's account

If you read this story... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us/trayvon-martin-case-shadowed-by-police-missteps.html

First of all there is evidence that conflicts with Zimmerman's account of the story.

Martin's girlfriends testimony is that she heard over the phone, Zimmerman say to Martin What are you doing here? and she heard Martin respond with Why are you following me?, this differs with Zimmerman's account of being jumped from behind, and then sucker punched in the face and jumped on while Martin held his hand over his mouth and held him down, reaching for his gun, while repeatedly hitting him and bashing his head into the concrete....

That account by Zimmerman, doesn't really add up to the one small scratch on Martin's knuckles, had he beaten him that badly surely his knuckles would have more damage, however it does add up to maybe a single punch by Martin that probably infuriated Zimmerman enough to fire his gun. There is more evidence that needs to be released before we can detemine what else may have occurred.

Secondly there were conflicting reports that night, as to who was screaming for help etc... and the neighborhood was not canvassed completely as Martin was shot just 70 yards from the house he was trying to get back to and had the police knocked on that door they would then have realized that Martin wasn't the prowler that they and Zimmerman thought he was.


Also, We know that Martin, was aware he was being followed, by Zimmerman in a white vehicle and that Martin went as far as to circle the vehicle staring at Zimmerman. and then in fear he fled, running away to avoid a confrontation, which demonstrates that he fulfilled his requirement in self defense to try to avoid the aggressor, If Zimmerman would have stayed in his car, as he was advised to do that would have been the end of any confrontation right there, but he clearly not afraid gets out of the car and pursues Martin, after being asked not to and acknowledging that advise with an okay...


At that point, Zimmerman had incorrectly profiled Martin, as one of the black teenagers breaking into houses, and assumed that he had no right to be in the gated community when he in fact had been staying there as a guest.

We know that Martin fled in the direction of the house he was staying in, but we still do not know if Martin, was grabbed or attempted to be detained by Zimmerman, as there are NO witnesses who said that they saw the beginning of the confrontation.


You say we don't live by mob rules anymore, but isn't Zimmerman taking justice into his own hands just that?

He was wrong as we now know that the Police felt that Martin was not committing any crime, he was aggressively pursued both by an unknown man in a vehicle and then later after trying to flee from his stalker, after the thought he got away, he is surprised by Zimmerman again, in the dark area behind the apartments, if I was surprised by someone, I might try to defend myself too, we don't know a lot of things because the Sanford police department, made many mistakes, on the night of the initial investigation, because they also felt like this was a clear case of a criminal getting caught but I'm sure that once that they realized that Martin, was a guest in the community and had every right to walk home, that they didn't feel so good about justice being served, and in fact the Police Chief has stated that what Zimmerman did was wrong, people are not supposed to try and do the job of the police, that is mob justice is it not?

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