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34. NASA budget is non-military, the problem is Congress (and space pork).
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:47 AM
Sep 2015

The Airforce is too paranoid to let anyone else involved in their space projects. I worked for ULA (before they were ULA) and the security measures were insane. It generally added $50M or more to the $200M to $300M+ normal launch cost. I have never worked on that side of the house but it is my understand that it is the same is for designing, building, and shipping the spacecraft as well.

The real problem with NASA is they are forced to do what Congress tells them to do. That includes things like building the Space Launch System (costing $18B+ so far, probably closer to $40B before it launches the first non-test payload). Even if it makes projections it will cost more than any other modern booster to use something on the order of $500M to $1,500M per launch. Nobody is expecting it to be used more than once a year so lets be nice and say it is used 20 times in 20 years @ $1B each plus $40B in development that works out to an amortized cost of $3B per launch. Now it can lift 70MT to LEO but that is still a staggering $42,000 per kg which is about 3x to 5x any other launcher. It is a rocket to nowhere but Congress FORCES NASA to build it. It is nicknamed the Senate Launch System.

Too bad we didn't send an orbiter to map it all in detail. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #1
I read about that. Not easy. Wilms Sep 2015 #6
In order to not need a whole lot of energy (rocket fuel) to go into orbit mindwalker_i Sep 2015 #12
Let's see if all the Kerbal Space Program has helped... RexDart Sep 2015 #31
Yeah, they are different worlds mindwalker_i Sep 2015 #33
Nobody ever expected Pluto to be so interesting Kotya Sep 2015 #7
Most expected a big snowball. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #11
Alan Stern did! (nt) PosterChild Sep 2015 #19
Almost all initial reconiscance of planetary bodies .... PosterChild Sep 2015 #25
I know, this trip revealed a very high atmosphere that could cause drag on an orbiter. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #28
Good example (nt) PosterChild Sep 2015 #30
Or possibly be used for aerobraking daleo Sep 2015 #37
Are there no colors out there? Cayenne Sep 2015 #2
They ran out of the Polaroid fixing solution. They have to use the Brownie now. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #8
I think these shots were made with the... PosterChild Sep 2015 #24
Not Lorri, Ralph Baclava Sep 2015 #32
Thanks! That is a very detailed, and accurate . ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #39
I know someone who was on the original launch team in 2006 hobbit709 Sep 2015 #3
SWRI? (nt) PosterChild Sep 2015 #27
No doubt this is impressive chapdrum Sep 2015 #4
Hardly a sliver of a sliver starroute Sep 2015 #9
NASA is not military . ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #21
NASA budget is non-military, the problem is Congress (and space pork). Statistical Sep 2015 #34
I agree; we should be taxing the trillions stashed offshore by corporations and wealthy individuals. byronius Sep 2015 #10
I agree with most chapdrum Sep 2015 #13
I guess you don't know much about NASA science projects, Peace Patriot Sep 2015 #23
Perhaps was being unfairly reductive chapdrum Sep 2015 #29
Holy fucking shit. True Blue Door Sep 2015 #5
a lesson in prejudice for all JI7 Sep 2015 #14
Yeppir, it looks like a planet to me. Prisoner_Number_Six Sep 2015 #15
It's a planetoid, get it right Cayenne Sep 2015 #20
A - frigging - right!! (nt) PosterChild Sep 2015 #26
Very cool! Thanks for posting, brooklynite. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #16
I like this one HomerRamone Sep 2015 #17
I'll be damned tabasco Sep 2015 #22
Who wants to grab their mountaineering gear and meet me there? FSogol Sep 2015 #18
If anyone ever tells you this is too expensive ... Statistical Sep 2015 #35
And think of the price per mile.....0.015 CENTS! brooklynite Sep 2015 #36
I saw this on another website and I think it sums it up "for aeons, Pluto ..." Statistical Sep 2015 #38
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