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zipplewrath

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Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:39 PM

Aug 2015

If you get caught intentionally mishandling classified information, which can include moving it to unapproved systems, that's trouble. I'm dubious that's what happened here, and it's even more dubious that she'll either cop to it, or they'd be able to prove as such.

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Exclusive: Dozens of Clinton emails were classified from the start, U.S. rules suggest [View all] leveymg Aug 2015 OP

waiting for hard core hill fans to tell us how it is now big deal LOL snooper2 Aug 2015 #1

Reuters is pro Bernie Sanders ...and is being mean to Hillary supporters. L0oniX Aug 2015 #32

Reuters is working for the GOP with the New York times lewebley3 Aug 2015 #131

Reuters is working for the illuminati and the lizard-people. candelista Aug 2015 #168

I am just a Democrat, but I'll say it, it is no big deal. Darb Aug 2015 #33

There's places a lot harder to get to than others shawn703 Aug 2015 #44

It all comes down to... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2015 #66

Basement? Don't you mean bathroom? Darb Aug 2015 #72

You cannot hear jack shit, can you? daybranch Aug 2015 #157

No, you are a prophet. :) candelista Aug 2015 #169

Hillary has done no wrong with EmailS lewebley3 Aug 2015 #128

Keep telling yourself this. daybranch Aug 2015 #159

This is comimg from the GOP: When you see GOP telling a story about Hillary you know its a lie lewebley3 Aug 2015 #164

This seems to be a persistent theme in your world-scenario. candelista Aug 2015 #170

So where is the indictment? Agschmid Aug 2015 #2

The relevant law requires intent. jeff47 Aug 2015 #22

No. Negligence about such information is also a crime. candelista Aug 2015 #30

Except it was intentional, not negligence. jeff47 Aug 2015 #31

So, did they KNOW it was classified? Adrahil Aug 2015 #175

What's particularly funny is that some of the "now classified" email is on an open site! Sancho Aug 2015 #185

Shark jump alert. Darb Aug 2015 #35

Sounds dangerous... Agschmid Aug 2015 #40

Not so much dangerous as stupid. Darb Aug 2015 #45

what is profoundly stupid is insisting this isn't a significant problem for her cali Aug 2015 #52

Not only stupid but disturbing, too. 840high Aug 2015 #59

What truth are you clamouring about? Darb Aug 2015 #78

that classified emails were sent over a private mail server.. frylock Aug 2015 #90

Try and stop lying. Darb Aug 2015 #99

Try reading the article.. frylock Aug 2015 #102

So he's "God" on the subject? Darb Aug 2015 #110

More of a subject matter expert than a god.. frylock Aug 2015 #111

If you are wetting your pants over this then I think you might be on the wrong site. Darb Aug 2015 #115

blahblahblah right-wing blahblah.. frylock Aug 2015 #140

Jury results zappaman Aug 2015 #150

"Prove somebody did something nefarious" :) candelista Aug 2015 #171

And yet another example of how mean and nasty Sander's supporters can be. frylock Aug 2015 #104

Wrong again. Darb Aug 2015 #107

You called me a liar for merely quoting the former director of ISOO.. frylock Aug 2015 #114

The lie is of omission. Darb Aug 2015 #119

what was omitted? frylock Aug 2015 #141

"Deemed classified" and "presumed classified" are classified. Doesn't have to be leaked leveymg Aug 2015 #153

You and I want different 840high Aug 2015 #158

Email story just an GOP attack on Hillary: She will win the white hosue ! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #165

Ah, Prophecy! :) candelista Aug 2015 #172

No, followed the scources: GOP tried this with New York times: They are trying again lewebley3 Aug 2015 #173

We Know the truth about HIllary: Email story is a GOP creation: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #167

What is "profoundly stupid" to a partisan, doesn't mean shit. Darb Aug 2015 #76

froth away, drab. you just look..... cali Aug 2015 #143

The bottom line at this point is this: dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #86

It seems everyone has forgotten the Bush Email Scandal WashingtonConsensus Aug 2015 #3

Well, then I'm definitely not voting for him either. nt nichomachus Aug 2015 #10

Oh Shit! You saying Hillary is as bad as *?? pocoloco Aug 2015 #12

Right! The technology is hard to understand in my opinion. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23

I get it. They did it 840high Aug 2015 #60

Let me try my best to explain the difference. Darb Aug 2015 #88

Clinton could've set up a private server to protect her private shit.. frylock Aug 2015 #94

And? Darb Aug 2015 #123

The only whining is coming from you.. frylock Aug 2015 #142

far worse than mere whining cali Aug 2015 #144

"only an uninformed, partisan would think otherwise." Et tu, Brute? jonno99 Aug 2015 #108

Well then, what nefarious purpose did she intend? Cut to the fucking chase. Darb Aug 2015 #112

I'm suggesting that in this whole "scandal", Hillary is her own worst enemy. jonno99 Aug 2015 #126

Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #139

she was trying to skirt FOIA requests cali Aug 2015 #145

Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2015 #80

It seems SOME people forget that we called Bush out on that as well.. frylock Aug 2015 #92

So AFTER the Bush Admin went through all sorts of shit for this, Clinton decided to run her own hughee99 Aug 2015 #186

Oh boy, the first LBN story on the emails still_one Aug 2015 #4

Damn it. I wanted the first... Purveyor Aug 2015 #25

lol. You are a good person Purveyor, I like your sense of humor still_one Aug 2015 #34

You will forgive me if i neglect to panic over this. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #5

I have mixed feelings about this... I'm a hardcore Bernie fan, and maybe it's psychological, but I secondwind Aug 2015 #6

I feel more relieved than frightened. There will be a viable D candidate. leveymg Aug 2015 #13

"Anyone else would have been indicted by now for this" YoungDemCA Aug 2015 #7

I'm not sure "We're just like W" is a positive argument. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #14

It's certainly not a good legal defense. leveymg Aug 2015 #16

Lawyers aren't much help now. jeff47 Aug 2015 #18

She doesn't seek out good advice. That's been apparent from 2009. That's a real liability if she leveymg Aug 2015 #20

Don't forget Bill Clinton's CIA Director, John Deutch candelista Aug 2015 #19

Unfortunately, it's too late for President Clinton to issue another pardon of the same kind. leveymg Aug 2015 #24

Maybe President Obama could do it. candelista Aug 2015 #26

That wouldn't look like interference in the election? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #63

Good point. I was thinking "after the election, but before leaving office." nt candelista Aug 2015 #74

But that wouldn't help Hillary get elected, which is what I thought we were discussing. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #83

Well, he could do it before the election. candelista Aug 2015 #174

Shhhhh. That idea could actually play out. People (not me) would eat it up! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #179

LOL :) nt candelista Aug 2015 #181

Scooter Libby was indicted and convicted. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #62

His sentence was commuted - he did not receive a pardon. 24601 Aug 2015 #120

I stand corrected. Thank you! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #138

I always wondered, given the dispute between Bush and Cheney on the pardon, why Cheney 24601 Aug 2015 #156

It just wouldn't look right. It could lower his esteem with the public. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #162

That would require excavation. :) nt candelista Aug 2015 #194

I think he's still in some form of animation. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #196

After the AP Iran peace deal "misreporting" debacle....you still trust the mass media...or is that trust limited? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #8

Speculation being the actual content of the released emails. jeff47 Aug 2015 #17

oh they trust it when.... renegade000 Aug 2015 #53

"Be careful what you wish for"...these folks are less pro-Sanders than anti-Clinton. They refuse Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #55

So if the media says anything negative, albeit true, about HRC - that's an assault? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #79

Really? Please post a link about where and how Bernie violated Executive Order 13526. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #75

can you post a link proving that Bernie will never be the subject of endless investigations? renegade000 Aug 2015 #96

So you don't have a link? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #116

Sanders' judgment has proven to be far better than Clinton's.. frylock Aug 2015 #109

So I see.... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #68

Anyone else would have been indicted by now for this.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #9

They should have been nailed, as well. But, that doesn't excuse Hillary. leveymg Aug 2015 #11

she never misspeaks. It depends on what your definition of ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #15

Weak sauce. Sounds familiar though. Darb Aug 2015 #41

DNC headquarters? ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #54

Poppycock. Darb Aug 2015 #81

I don't do alerts, unless it's heinous tho Hillary people alert on me all the time and usually lose Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #89

Hillary or nobody? Sounds a bit like projection. Darb Aug 2015 #122

Yes, they should be able to derail her campaign by saying that Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #195

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #21

BOMBSHELL!!!!! nt HFRN Aug 2015 #27

This actually IS a pretty big deal, just because it hints at her judgement. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #28

Cut and paste much. Darb Aug 2015 #38

Just another example of mean and nasty Sander's supporters can be.. frylock Aug 2015 #101

You are so off the mark. Shoot again, just this time, Darb Aug 2015 #125

prophetic photo - HRC on Watergate committee HFRN Aug 2015 #29

No, they wouldn't zipplewrath Aug 2015 #36

Look at the post above about what what happened to former CIA Director John Deutch leveymg Aug 2015 #42

No, it's not zipplewrath Aug 2015 #57

Intentional release is not an element for some mishandling classified materials convictions. leveymg Aug 2015 #103

Not the same thing zipplewrath Aug 2015 #118

Go back and read the article. Hillary acknowledged she was trained in handling classified materials leveymg Aug 2015 #121

No, it is not "apparent" zipplewrath Aug 2015 #127

There was no actual damage in the cases prosecuted leveymg Aug 2015 #155

You forgot #6 Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #91

No, that's #2 zipplewrath Aug 2015 #105

But what if she did know? What would you call that? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #137

That's #4 zipplewrath Aug 2015 #187

I'm content to let it play out. Chances are nothing happens. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #189

I suspect zipplewrath Aug 2015 #190

That's why we need someone with no baggage. I wonder who that could be.... hhmmmm... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #191

I don't know how to feel about this hollowdweller Aug 2015 #37

More of the same obvioso, tired whinings. Darb Aug 2015 #39

Do you think denial was a river in Egypt? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #93

"Presumed classified" versus "Labeled Classified". I'm sick of this whining. randome Aug 2015 #43

Maybe you don't realize that HRC and BS are in competition for the leader of the free world? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #98

By this logic, if I dropped a package of cocaine in your lap, you would be guilty of possession. randome Aug 2015 #100

"if I dropped a package of cocaine in your lap, you would be guilty of possession": Absolutely! jonno99 Aug 2015 #132

Well, keep following the story. In due time you will see... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #135

Exclusive... lamp_shade Aug 2015 #46

It's a Reuters wire report. leveymg Aug 2015 #71

It's all over, except for Celine Dion singing HFRN Aug 2015 #47

Oh the humanity FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #49

Sanders told you "Bernie supporters" to cut it out..,why not listen to him? Sad when you refuse to. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #56

Daaaaaaaaaaad frylock Aug 2015 #146

I wouldn't wager on it. Comical post actually. Darb Aug 2015 #84

60% of Independents have a negative view of HRC. Independents are the largest group of voters leveymg Aug 2015 #87

50% of all American won't vote for a socialist: Hillary is winning in all the polls, lewebley3 Aug 2015 #130

Her memory on this is due for an evolutionary adjustment. n/t FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #48

Foreign government information is not the same as US classified. renegade000 Aug 2015 #50

Interesting post. candelista Aug 2015 #70

"Deemed classified" and "presumed classified" are, in effect, the same thing. leveymg Aug 2015 #82

I'm not so sure HassleCat Aug 2015 #51

I hope she gets 35 years for this . . FairWinds Aug 2015 #58

Funny how a lie is now a "mispeak". Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #61

"Mischaracterize" is probably the more proper term. leveymg Aug 2015 #64

With Hillary now polling in the 30's for madville Aug 2015 #65

I'd rather see Michelle run. leveymg Aug 2015 #67

Might be a big problem for her, I don't care about it much though dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #69

well thought out post questionseverything Aug 2015 #95

No wonder all the Biden chatter is happening... SoapBox Aug 2015 #73

Anyone else would be indicted by now? PLEASE TELL ME THAT IS SARCASM randys1 Aug 2015 #77

One wrong doesn't excuse the next. leveymg Aug 2015 #85

If emails were marked "classified," she could be in deep doo doo. Vinca Aug 2015 #97

And how is Reuters getting this info? blackspade Aug 2015 #106

Very definitely a hit piece. There has been a hit piece on Hillary Clinton asjr Aug 2015 #113

ah me - Hillary has been her own worst enemy with this "scandal". She should have jonno99 Aug 2015 #134

Reuters like other news agencies has a copy of the "declassified" State Dept release of HRC emails leveymg Aug 2015 #117

If she sent classified information to Blumenthal - a private citizen without a clearance, that's far 24601 Aug 2015 #124

Reuters working for the GOP lewebley3 Aug 2015 #129

Reuters doing their damn job. frylock Aug 2015 #147

No, they are reporting GOP right wing talking points: Same as the New York times. lewebley3 Aug 2015 #148

Take it up with the former director of ISOO.. frylock Aug 2015 #149

AP working for the GOP the other day. Those that refuse to see that are willfully blind. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #152

I still don't think Mrs. Clinton has done anything criminal. Sunlei Aug 2015 #133

This is all so bizarre. cpwm17 Aug 2015 #136

K&R#27 n/t bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #151

Even the kid in the mailroom at State Department knows better. Sienna86 Aug 2015 #154

She wasn't ignorant of classification requirements. 840high Aug 2015 #160

That's true because she served as a US senator underthematrix Aug 2015 #161

The firm I work for fired a lawyer for this Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #163

What you fired a lawyer in your office for: Has nothing to do with Hillary: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #166

You are closing your eyes 'cuz it's Hillary. 840high Aug 2015 #176

There isn't a business on earth that wouldn't fire somebody for this Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #178

Hillary didn't do anthing related to what your empolyees did: Hillary has done no wrong lewebley3 Aug 2015 #183

You mean other than the bootleg email server? Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #184

, Hillary did the right thing she protected the information:Inappropriate is a judgment call lewebley3 Aug 2015 #188

"No big deal" say the same Dems who support destroying whistleblowers for doing less Teamster Jeff Aug 2015 #177

Like the case ofmost of these fake scandals being ginned up by the Republicans and the moronic media 6000eliot Aug 2015 #180

If only that were so. n/t leveymg Aug 2015 #182

Hillary is not my choice, but this is a stupid way to take her down yurbud Aug 2015 #192

if Hillary were prosecuted for this, it would once again bring unwanted attention to Bush crimes yurbud Aug 2015 #193