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144. far worse than mere whining

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Exclusive: Dozens of Clinton emails were classified from the start, U.S. rules suggest [View all] leveymg Aug 2015 OP

waiting for hard core hill fans to tell us how it is now big deal LOL snooper2 Aug 2015 #1

Reuters is pro Bernie Sanders ...and is being mean to Hillary supporters. L0oniX Aug 2015 #32

Reuters is working for the GOP with the New York times lewebley3 Aug 2015 #131

Reuters is working for the illuminati and the lizard-people. candelista Aug 2015 #168

I am just a Democrat, but I'll say it, it is no big deal. Darb Aug 2015 #33

There's places a lot harder to get to than others shawn703 Aug 2015 #44

It all comes down to... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2015 #66

Basement? Don't you mean bathroom? Darb Aug 2015 #72

You cannot hear jack shit, can you? daybranch Aug 2015 #157

No, you are a prophet. :) candelista Aug 2015 #169

Hillary has done no wrong with EmailS lewebley3 Aug 2015 #128

Keep telling yourself this. daybranch Aug 2015 #159

This is comimg from the GOP: When you see GOP telling a story about Hillary you know its a lie lewebley3 Aug 2015 #164

This seems to be a persistent theme in your world-scenario. candelista Aug 2015 #170

So where is the indictment? Agschmid Aug 2015 #2

The relevant law requires intent. jeff47 Aug 2015 #22

No. Negligence about such information is also a crime. candelista Aug 2015 #30

Except it was intentional, not negligence. jeff47 Aug 2015 #31

So, did they KNOW it was classified? Adrahil Aug 2015 #175

What's particularly funny is that some of the "now classified" email is on an open site! Sancho Aug 2015 #185

Shark jump alert. Darb Aug 2015 #35

Sounds dangerous... Agschmid Aug 2015 #40

Not so much dangerous as stupid. Darb Aug 2015 #45

what is profoundly stupid is insisting this isn't a significant problem for her cali Aug 2015 #52

Not only stupid but disturbing, too. 840high Aug 2015 #59

What truth are you clamouring about? Darb Aug 2015 #78

that classified emails were sent over a private mail server.. frylock Aug 2015 #90

Try and stop lying. Darb Aug 2015 #99

Try reading the article.. frylock Aug 2015 #102

So he's "God" on the subject? Darb Aug 2015 #110

More of a subject matter expert than a god.. frylock Aug 2015 #111

If you are wetting your pants over this then I think you might be on the wrong site. Darb Aug 2015 #115

blahblahblah right-wing blahblah.. frylock Aug 2015 #140

Jury results zappaman Aug 2015 #150

"Prove somebody did something nefarious" :) candelista Aug 2015 #171

And yet another example of how mean and nasty Sander's supporters can be. frylock Aug 2015 #104

Wrong again. Darb Aug 2015 #107

You called me a liar for merely quoting the former director of ISOO.. frylock Aug 2015 #114

The lie is of omission. Darb Aug 2015 #119

what was omitted? frylock Aug 2015 #141

"Deemed classified" and "presumed classified" are classified. Doesn't have to be leaked leveymg Aug 2015 #153

You and I want different 840high Aug 2015 #158

Email story just an GOP attack on Hillary: She will win the white hosue ! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #165

Ah, Prophecy! :) candelista Aug 2015 #172

No, followed the scources: GOP tried this with New York times: They are trying again lewebley3 Aug 2015 #173

We Know the truth about HIllary: Email story is a GOP creation: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #167

What is "profoundly stupid" to a partisan, doesn't mean shit. Darb Aug 2015 #76

froth away, drab. you just look..... cali Aug 2015 #143

The bottom line at this point is this: dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #86

It seems everyone has forgotten the Bush Email Scandal WashingtonConsensus Aug 2015 #3

Well, then I'm definitely not voting for him either. nt nichomachus Aug 2015 #10

Oh Shit! You saying Hillary is as bad as *?? pocoloco Aug 2015 #12

Right! The technology is hard to understand in my opinion. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23

I get it. They did it 840high Aug 2015 #60

Let me try my best to explain the difference. Darb Aug 2015 #88

Clinton could've set up a private server to protect her private shit.. frylock Aug 2015 #94

And? Darb Aug 2015 #123

The only whining is coming from you.. frylock Aug 2015 #142

far worse than mere whining cali Aug 2015 #144

"only an uninformed, partisan would think otherwise." Et tu, Brute? jonno99 Aug 2015 #108

Well then, what nefarious purpose did she intend? Cut to the fucking chase. Darb Aug 2015 #112

I'm suggesting that in this whole "scandal", Hillary is her own worst enemy. jonno99 Aug 2015 #126

Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #139

she was trying to skirt FOIA requests cali Aug 2015 #145

Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2015 #80

It seems SOME people forget that we called Bush out on that as well.. frylock Aug 2015 #92

So AFTER the Bush Admin went through all sorts of shit for this, Clinton decided to run her own hughee99 Aug 2015 #186

Oh boy, the first LBN story on the emails still_one Aug 2015 #4

Damn it. I wanted the first... Purveyor Aug 2015 #25

lol. You are a good person Purveyor, I like your sense of humor still_one Aug 2015 #34

You will forgive me if i neglect to panic over this. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #5

I have mixed feelings about this... I'm a hardcore Bernie fan, and maybe it's psychological, but I secondwind Aug 2015 #6

I feel more relieved than frightened. There will be a viable D candidate. leveymg Aug 2015 #13

"Anyone else would have been indicted by now for this" YoungDemCA Aug 2015 #7

I'm not sure "We're just like W" is a positive argument. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #14

It's certainly not a good legal defense. leveymg Aug 2015 #16

Lawyers aren't much help now. jeff47 Aug 2015 #18

She doesn't seek out good advice. That's been apparent from 2009. That's a real liability if she leveymg Aug 2015 #20

Don't forget Bill Clinton's CIA Director, John Deutch candelista Aug 2015 #19

Unfortunately, it's too late for President Clinton to issue another pardon of the same kind. leveymg Aug 2015 #24

Maybe President Obama could do it. candelista Aug 2015 #26

That wouldn't look like interference in the election? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #63

Good point. I was thinking "after the election, but before leaving office." nt candelista Aug 2015 #74

But that wouldn't help Hillary get elected, which is what I thought we were discussing. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #83

Well, he could do it before the election. candelista Aug 2015 #174

Shhhhh. That idea could actually play out. People (not me) would eat it up! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #179

LOL :) nt candelista Aug 2015 #181

Scooter Libby was indicted and convicted. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #62

His sentence was commuted - he did not receive a pardon. 24601 Aug 2015 #120

I stand corrected. Thank you! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #138

I always wondered, given the dispute between Bush and Cheney on the pardon, why Cheney 24601 Aug 2015 #156

It just wouldn't look right. It could lower his esteem with the public. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #162

That would require excavation. :) nt candelista Aug 2015 #194

I think he's still in some form of animation. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #196

After the AP Iran peace deal "misreporting" debacle....you still trust the mass media...or is that trust limited? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #8

Speculation being the actual content of the released emails. jeff47 Aug 2015 #17

oh they trust it when.... renegade000 Aug 2015 #53

"Be careful what you wish for"...these folks are less pro-Sanders than anti-Clinton. They refuse Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #55

So if the media says anything negative, albeit true, about HRC - that's an assault? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #79

Really? Please post a link about where and how Bernie violated Executive Order 13526. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #75

can you post a link proving that Bernie will never be the subject of endless investigations? renegade000 Aug 2015 #96

So you don't have a link? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #116

Sanders' judgment has proven to be far better than Clinton's.. frylock Aug 2015 #109

So I see.... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #68

Anyone else would have been indicted by now for this.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #9

They should have been nailed, as well. But, that doesn't excuse Hillary. leveymg Aug 2015 #11

she never misspeaks. It depends on what your definition of ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #15

Weak sauce. Sounds familiar though. Darb Aug 2015 #41

DNC headquarters? ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #54

Poppycock. Darb Aug 2015 #81

I don't do alerts, unless it's heinous tho Hillary people alert on me all the time and usually lose Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #89

Hillary or nobody? Sounds a bit like projection. Darb Aug 2015 #122

Yes, they should be able to derail her campaign by saying that Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #195

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #21

BOMBSHELL!!!!! nt HFRN Aug 2015 #27

This actually IS a pretty big deal, just because it hints at her judgement. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #28

Cut and paste much. Darb Aug 2015 #38

Just another example of mean and nasty Sander's supporters can be.. frylock Aug 2015 #101

You are so off the mark. Shoot again, just this time, Darb Aug 2015 #125

prophetic photo - HRC on Watergate committee HFRN Aug 2015 #29

No, they wouldn't zipplewrath Aug 2015 #36

Look at the post above about what what happened to former CIA Director John Deutch leveymg Aug 2015 #42

No, it's not zipplewrath Aug 2015 #57

Intentional release is not an element for some mishandling classified materials convictions. leveymg Aug 2015 #103

Not the same thing zipplewrath Aug 2015 #118

Go back and read the article. Hillary acknowledged she was trained in handling classified materials leveymg Aug 2015 #121

No, it is not "apparent" zipplewrath Aug 2015 #127

There was no actual damage in the cases prosecuted leveymg Aug 2015 #155

You forgot #6 Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #91

No, that's #2 zipplewrath Aug 2015 #105

But what if she did know? What would you call that? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #137

That's #4 zipplewrath Aug 2015 #187

I'm content to let it play out. Chances are nothing happens. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #189

I suspect zipplewrath Aug 2015 #190

That's why we need someone with no baggage. I wonder who that could be.... hhmmmm... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #191

I don't know how to feel about this hollowdweller Aug 2015 #37

More of the same obvioso, tired whinings. Darb Aug 2015 #39

Do you think denial was a river in Egypt? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #93

"Presumed classified" versus "Labeled Classified". I'm sick of this whining. randome Aug 2015 #43

Maybe you don't realize that HRC and BS are in competition for the leader of the free world? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #98

By this logic, if I dropped a package of cocaine in your lap, you would be guilty of possession. randome Aug 2015 #100

"if I dropped a package of cocaine in your lap, you would be guilty of possession": Absolutely! jonno99 Aug 2015 #132

Well, keep following the story. In due time you will see... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #135

Exclusive... lamp_shade Aug 2015 #46

It's a Reuters wire report. leveymg Aug 2015 #71

It's all over, except for Celine Dion singing HFRN Aug 2015 #47

Oh the humanity FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #49

Sanders told you "Bernie supporters" to cut it out..,why not listen to him? Sad when you refuse to. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #56

Daaaaaaaaaaad frylock Aug 2015 #146

I wouldn't wager on it. Comical post actually. Darb Aug 2015 #84

60% of Independents have a negative view of HRC. Independents are the largest group of voters leveymg Aug 2015 #87

50% of all American won't vote for a socialist: Hillary is winning in all the polls, lewebley3 Aug 2015 #130

Her memory on this is due for an evolutionary adjustment. n/t FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #48

Foreign government information is not the same as US classified. renegade000 Aug 2015 #50

Interesting post. candelista Aug 2015 #70

"Deemed classified" and "presumed classified" are, in effect, the same thing. leveymg Aug 2015 #82

I'm not so sure HassleCat Aug 2015 #51

I hope she gets 35 years for this . . FairWinds Aug 2015 #58

Funny how a lie is now a "mispeak". Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #61

"Mischaracterize" is probably the more proper term. leveymg Aug 2015 #64

With Hillary now polling in the 30's for madville Aug 2015 #65

I'd rather see Michelle run. leveymg Aug 2015 #67

Might be a big problem for her, I don't care about it much though dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #69

well thought out post questionseverything Aug 2015 #95

No wonder all the Biden chatter is happening... SoapBox Aug 2015 #73

Anyone else would be indicted by now? PLEASE TELL ME THAT IS SARCASM randys1 Aug 2015 #77

One wrong doesn't excuse the next. leveymg Aug 2015 #85

If emails were marked "classified," she could be in deep doo doo. Vinca Aug 2015 #97

And how is Reuters getting this info? blackspade Aug 2015 #106

Very definitely a hit piece. There has been a hit piece on Hillary Clinton asjr Aug 2015 #113

ah me - Hillary has been her own worst enemy with this "scandal". She should have jonno99 Aug 2015 #134

Reuters like other news agencies has a copy of the "declassified" State Dept release of HRC emails leveymg Aug 2015 #117

If she sent classified information to Blumenthal - a private citizen without a clearance, that's far 24601 Aug 2015 #124

Reuters working for the GOP lewebley3 Aug 2015 #129

Reuters doing their damn job. frylock Aug 2015 #147

No, they are reporting GOP right wing talking points: Same as the New York times. lewebley3 Aug 2015 #148

Take it up with the former director of ISOO.. frylock Aug 2015 #149

AP working for the GOP the other day. Those that refuse to see that are willfully blind. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #152

I still don't think Mrs. Clinton has done anything criminal. Sunlei Aug 2015 #133

This is all so bizarre. cpwm17 Aug 2015 #136

K&R#27 n/t bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #151

Even the kid in the mailroom at State Department knows better. Sienna86 Aug 2015 #154

She wasn't ignorant of classification requirements. 840high Aug 2015 #160

That's true because she served as a US senator underthematrix Aug 2015 #161

The firm I work for fired a lawyer for this Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #163

What you fired a lawyer in your office for: Has nothing to do with Hillary: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #166

You are closing your eyes 'cuz it's Hillary. 840high Aug 2015 #176

There isn't a business on earth that wouldn't fire somebody for this Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #178

Hillary didn't do anthing related to what your empolyees did: Hillary has done no wrong lewebley3 Aug 2015 #183

You mean other than the bootleg email server? Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #184

, Hillary did the right thing she protected the information:Inappropriate is a judgment call lewebley3 Aug 2015 #188

"No big deal" say the same Dems who support destroying whistleblowers for doing less Teamster Jeff Aug 2015 #177

Like the case ofmost of these fake scandals being ginned up by the Republicans and the moronic media 6000eliot Aug 2015 #180

If only that were so. n/t leveymg Aug 2015 #182

Hillary is not my choice, but this is a stupid way to take her down yurbud Aug 2015 #192

if Hillary were prosecuted for this, it would once again bring unwanted attention to Bush crimes yurbud Aug 2015 #193