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Igel

(35,293 posts)
38. Some points that need to be made.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:16 AM
Aug 2015

1. It's not clear that it's a growing problem at all. It's clear that the problem that existed is growing in salience and prominence.

They're different things.

2. We use the expression "POC" as though we had two large ethnic groups and no more in the US. Latinos are there, too, usually lumped into "POC" (even though they have a different assimilation trajectory, for the most part). Their stats are intermediate; I don't know how "Latino" stats break down into black-and-white stats, which is sometimes possible, but that still overlooks those with a large portion of indio in them.

We won't even discuss Asians and the diversity in that exonym or their stats.

3. Consider the approach taken to the new shooting of the 18-year-old in Ferguson versus this one, or the way he's defended to an almost unreasonable extent. Advocacy is fine, but when people start trying to strain at the truth and read all kinds of things into the report just to make their side right it's time to take a deep breath and think, "Critical thinking. Must have coffee and critical thinking."

As for BLM, it's more and more "Black lives matter."

And yet the reaction to this has been tularetom Aug 2015 #1
I posted the original story; it got three posts. 7962 Aug 2015 #2
Wrong. It's not gettng attention because whites haven't went out and started protesting and trillion Aug 2015 #26
You cant see the forest for the trees........ 7962 Aug 2015 #50
It takes two women Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #28
I hope they get justice romanic Aug 2015 #3
Hey I'm just saying this isn't reserved to one , race or creed..... Historic NY Aug 2015 #4
So very true DustyJoe Aug 2015 #7
Except young black males are 21 times more likely to be killed by police BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #8
So then they're TWICE as likely to be killed. Unarmed is the only fact that matters 7962 Aug 2015 #10
You didn't read what the 2 links are saying BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #24
Actually I did. The Guardian article shows that most killed are armed. 7962 Aug 2015 #47
Here's the problem with your argument BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #49
Source that the majoirty are armed? trillion Aug 2015 #29
Sure, its in post #8 7962 Aug 2015 #48
No but it disproportionately affects the blacks. trillion Aug 2015 #27
Conflating the statistical standard with the statistical aberration is a convenient misstep... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #43
The police probably thought he was black. In America, that makes it okay. nt valerief Aug 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #23
I'm trying to figure out how anyone could miss that sarcasm. trillion Aug 2015 #30
Me too, especially since it cost the person davidpdx Aug 2015 #36
Have whites been SYSTEMATICALLY targeted because of the color of their skin? graegoyle Aug 2015 #6
Do you claim TeddyR Aug 2015 #9
I think you're the one suffering from some myopia. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #18
You people should leave the sniping about BLM for the umpteen other threads and instead focus your Chakab Aug 2015 #11
Not only that mercuryblues Aug 2015 #33
Excellent point. nt valerief Aug 2015 #41
A kid is dead, parents grieve, and a cop gets caught in a lie and nothing happens. Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #12
"...Don't know why?" I'll tell you-- Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #13
Dont forget to add "and they'll be no national news coverage or protests over it" 7962 Aug 2015 #15
Nor rioting. nt cstanleytech Aug 2015 #16
I'm sorry, what's stopping those parents and that community from protesting? Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #17
An aberration rarely results in a protest as would the systemic targeting of race. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #44
Um, no. blackspade Aug 2015 #14
I think cops killed about 350 black people last year. And about 850 non-black people. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #19
+1 n/t Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2015 #21
I agree. Clearly blacks are targeted at higher proportions due to racism. Chemisse Aug 2015 #34
your alleged numbers are predicated on an inherently biased sample LanternWaste Aug 2015 #45
Amen, CG! They just dont get it. You're spot on. nt 7962 Aug 2015 #51
for now being the correct phrase questionseverything Aug 2015 #20
Kicking this reply romanic Aug 2015 #22
Germany started, pre -Hitler. 1919 with the "Rhineland Bastards" Reformed Bully Aug 2015 #37
Your timeline is a bit off. Igel Aug 2015 #39
Some points that need to be made. Igel Aug 2015 #38
I wonder if all the racists on my local news site are going to attack his parents for asking. trillion Aug 2015 #25
BLM mercuryblues Aug 2015 #31
Awesome post! trillion Aug 2015 #32
US Police Admit Shooting Unarmed White Man To Prove They’re Not Racist Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #35
i almost missed the satire line questionseverything Aug 2015 #46
Again, his race is called out only to distract from #BLM. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #40
You'll have to take that up with the Reuters headline writers. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #42
Look back a couple of years ago. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #53
It sure is in every other cop shooting OP here. nt 7962 Aug 2015 #52
Zachary... Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #54
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