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jefferson_dem

(32,683 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:05 AM May 2012

BREAKING: Joe Biden Endorses Same-Sex Marriage [View all]

Source: TP

Vice President Joe Biden has endorsed same-sex marriage, becoming the highest ranking American official to back marriage for gay and lesbian people. His comments signify a split within the Obama administration and may pave the way for President Obama — who says he supports civil unions and is still evolving on the matter — to also embrace equality.

Biden made his remarks during an appearance on Meet the Press, telling host David Gregory that he is “absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women.” He added, however, that “the President sets the policy” and did not say if he would support marriage in a second term. Biden credited the change-of-heart to the show Will & Grace, which aired on NBC from 1998 to 2006 and featured numerous gay characters:

GREGORY: Have your views evolved?

BIDEN: The good news is that as more and more Americans come to understand what this is all about is a simple proposition. Who do you love? Who do you love and will you be loyal to the person you love? And that’s what people are finding out what all marriages at their root are about. Whether they are marriages of lesbians or gay men or heterosexuals. [...]

GREGORY: You’re comfortable with same-sex marriage now?

BIDEN: Look, I am Vice President of the United States of America. The president sets the policy. I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women and heterosexual men marrying women are entitled to the same exact rights. All the civil rights, all the civil liberties. And quite frankly I don’t see much of a distinction beyond that. [...] I think Will & Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody has done so far. People fear that is different and now they’re beginning to understand.


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Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/06/478786/biden-marriage/
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Update (via Axelrod tweet and "clarification" by Biden spokesperson) jefferson_dem May 2012 #1
LOL. Pulling Biden back... DURHAM D May 2012 #2
All I know: originalpckelly May 2012 #4
no it isn't DURHAM D May 2012 #12
whether it is or isn't it was sweet to read Voice for Peace May 2012 #21
How far we've come Doc Holliday May 2012 #22
I actually don't see any pulling back here Bjorn Against May 2012 #26
Can you show me where Obama has said FreeState May 2012 #49
... progressoid May 2012 #50
Hate to break it to you but sometimes people step away from the computer Bjorn Against May 2012 #54
The crickets are waiting progressoid May 2012 #56
I wish the administration would have spoken up for equality a long time ago as well Bjorn Against May 2012 #57
I never claimed he has said that Bjorn Against May 2012 #53
Romney is cornered C_U_L8R May 2012 #5
Can't wait! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #52
Biden did say that this was his opinion, the President sets the policy. jillan May 2012 #16
Axelrod is a spokesweasel alarimer May 2012 #25
Biden just lost the Independent and Moderate conservative votes.. INdemo May 2012 #29
No he did not, not all independents are homophobic bigots Bjorn Against May 2012 #39
Maybe some of the independents... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #48
And he lost the Klan vote by serving with a black president. (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #65
Oh Biden don't say that out loud. Pavlo May 2012 #30
Yeah, teh Gays are toxic for Democrats. MNBrewer May 2012 #31
That kind of attitude is what turns so many away from politics Bjorn Against May 2012 #37
That is the type Pavlo May 2012 #68
Thanks for the response, my apologies for not recognizing the sarcasm Bjorn Against May 2012 #69
Axelrod did just join Biden and said the President agrees as well. Bjorn Against May 2012 #32
Goddam it Vanje May 2012 #33
I guess that Axelrod, et al. thought that a clarification was in order. Beacool May 2012 #44
Bullshit - that is NOT his position. dbackjon May 2012 #51
Joe's trial balloon ? may3rd May 2012 #3
Tin foil hat too tight? JNelson6563 May 2012 #18
Joe knows I vote. Nt xchrom May 2012 #6
Joe knows we vote. and maybe he has a basic sense of fairness. Vanje May 2012 #34
+1 xchrom May 2012 #35
While I am no huge fan of Axelrod, I can not understand why people are upset about his Tweet Bjorn Against May 2012 #41
So he's definitely out for 2016. On edit: Axelrod says it's the same position as the President. onehandle May 2012 #7
It wasn't the same position when the VP said it but - DURHAM D May 2012 #11
How did he "fix" anything? He said that Obama agreed with Biden's words Bjorn Against May 2012 #28
It was a very clever tweet Skelly May 2012 #62
Just paving the groundwork for what I believe will happen in President Obama's 2nd term. PragmaticLiberal May 2012 #8
Biden planting his seeds early? tdb63 May 2012 #9
I highly doubt that Biden will run for president again. harmonicon May 2012 #66
I love Joe, he's a good, good soul. Laurian May 2012 #10
That does seem like a key point JohnnyLib2 May 2012 #13
It is a shame that the Catholic Church can't HockeyMom May 2012 #17
I knew I liked Joe for a reason cindyperry2010 May 2012 #14
You know the tide is changing when the Clintons are shcrane71 May 2012 #15
The speed at which the clarifications and retractions has arrived is quite telling. LonePirate May 2012 #19
Axelrod used the word married, not domestic partners. mucifer May 2012 #20
I think that was likely just a mistake resulting from a hurried preparation NorthCarolina May 2012 #23
There was no retraction, Axelrod said Obama agreed with Biden's words Bjorn Against May 2012 #27
I agree. kag May 2012 #38
Inauguration Day, Prayer Breakfast, "Fierce Advocate", DADT, "marriage should be left to the states" Occulus May 2012 #64
+1 nt SunSeeker May 2012 #59
Obama's opinion seems to be that he's not against marriage equality, but he's not for it either MNBrewer May 2012 #36
Are we too dependant upon what fredamae May 2012 #24
To be fair, that does cut both ways Posteritatis May 2012 #43
Exactly! Why was this Ever fredamae May 2012 #47
This is a big fucking deal Botany May 2012 #40
Not necessarily. Beacool May 2012 #45
Now THIS is a big freaking deal! UrbScotty May 2012 #42
K&R! NYC Liberal May 2012 #46
Hey Joe.. raise our credit cards a few more points.... lib2DaBone May 2012 #55
I love this Stargazer09 May 2012 #58
It's a start Ken Burch May 2012 #60
Biden finally says something useful. BlueIris May 2012 #61
Better late then never..... Mr. President grahamhgreen May 2012 #63
who gets their 'change of heart' from lupulin May 2012 #67
I wish Obama would stop contorting himself into a pretzel over this issue, Nye Bevan May 2012 #70
That's about to happen... jefferson_dem May 2012 #72
It seems that you were correct (nt) Nye Bevan May 2012 #73
Thank you Mr. Biden IvanTheRed1233 May 2012 #71
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