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40. I saw two of the big tortoises mating, too.

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:15 AM

Jun 2015

It was about 36 years ago. They were already "in the act" when the zoo opened at 9 am, and were still going at it hot and heavy when the zoo closed, eight hours later. Galapagos tortoises are very thorough.

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Speed the 150-year-old tortoise dies at San Diego Zoo [View all] Little Tich Jun 2015 OP

150 years is a long time rpannier Jun 2015 #1

Acupuncture? Really? longship Jun 2015 #2

actually it has shown some efficacy in studies for pain and other conditions restorefreedom Jun 2015 #3

Nope. Click through to my link, above. longship Jun 2015 #4

did you look at my links? restorefreedom Jun 2015 #5

and the founder of sbm is a well known skeptic of pretty much everything restorefreedom Jun 2015 #7

Steven Novella is an academic clinical neurologist. longship Jun 2015 #8

you are free to look at the literature yourself restorefreedom Jun 2015 #10

1. It does not matter where you stick the needles. longship Jun 2015 #11

You and I are always on the same page but.......... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #12

Anecdotal evidence is not evidential beyond a single case study. longship Jun 2015 #13

He had constant symptoms.... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #14

If it fails the scientific method, it fails as a hypothesis. longship Jun 2015 #16

Yes, you have fallen into confirmation bias The Second Stone Jun 2015 #25

What is Qi? longship Jun 2015 #28

Yeah, just because it works for you doesn't mean that it works The Second Stone Jun 2015 #15

It is unethical for physicians to prescribe placebos. longship Jun 2015 #17

there are many professionals who disagree restorefreedom Jun 2015 #19

Anecdotes are not evidence. longship Jun 2015 #27

the links i provided were of blinded studies restorefreedom Jun 2015 #29

But acupuncture is based on Qi. And Qi is magic woo-woo. longship Jun 2015 #30

that is your opinion and you are free to have it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #31

Time will not help Qi becoming real. longship Jun 2015 #33

again, that is your opinion and you are welcome to it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #34

Indeed, RIP Speed. longship Jun 2015 #35

same here restorefreedom Jun 2015 #39

Acupuncture was introduced here from China some 50 years ago, and it was Cal33 Jun 2015 #20

There is no alternative medicine. There is only medicine, based on science. longship Jun 2015 #26

Acupuncture is limited to certain types of ailments. It's not a cure-all for everything. It Cal33 Jun 2015 #42

There is no scientific study conducted in a double blind manner The Second Stone Jun 2015 #24

Do you really believe all these colleges would be offering the courses (with Masters and Cal33 Jun 2015 #46

hang the flag of rubbish on the shell of a dead tortoise to better illustrate how clever we are... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #45

He died because his lady friend's husband came home early. tclambert Jun 2015 #6

Maybe he ran one race too many. randome Jun 2015 #47

How Sad! 2naSalit Jun 2015 #9

If he hadn't wanted to live in a zoo SnakeEyes Jun 2015 #37

I was allowed to hand-feed him once. Codeine Jun 2015 #18

Pfft, I was allowed to ride Speed.... Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #22

Probably something along the lines of Codeine Jun 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #21

he had a good um...walk.... dhill926 Jun 2015 #23

.. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #32

Years ago, I saw two of the tortoises at the San Diego zoo 'enjoy a moment' suffragette Jun 2015 #36

I saw two of the big tortoises mating, too. Bette Noir Jun 2015 #40

This was @ 25 years ago. suffragette Jun 2015 #44

I wonder how he got the name Speed. Calista241 Jun 2015 #41

Speed would've been born about 1865. I mean, hatched. nt raccoon Jun 2015 #43