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hack89

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Thu May 3, 2012, 09:08 AM May 2012

With Venezuelan Food Shortages, Some Blame Price Controls [View all]

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Source: NYT

CARACAS, Venezuela — By 6:30 a.m., a full hour and a half before the store would open, about two dozen people were already in line. They waited patiently, not for the latest iPhone, but for something far more basic: groceries.

Venezuela is one of the world’s top oil producers at a time of soaring energy prices, yet shortages of staples like milk, meat and toilet paper are a chronic part of life here, often turning grocery shopping into a hit or miss proposition.

But many economists call it a classic case of a government causing a problem rather than solving it. Prices are set so low, they say, that companies and producers cannot make a profit. So farmers grow less food, manufacturers cut back production and retailers stock less inventory. Moreover, some of the shortages are in industries, like dairy and coffee, where the government has seized private companies and is now running them, saying it is in the national interest.

If there is one product that Venezuela should be able to produce in abundance it is coffee, a major crop here for centuries. Until 2009, Venezuela was a coffee exporter, but it began importing large amounts of it three years ago to make up for a decline in production. Farmers and coffee roasters say the problem is simple: retail price controls keep profits close to or below what it costs farmers to grow and harvest the coffee. As a result, many do not invest in new plantings or fertilizer, or they cut back on the amount of land used to grow coffee. Making matters worse, the recent harvest was poor in many areas.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/world/americas/venezuela-faces-shortages-in-grocery-staples.html?_r=2



Good example of how good intentions can sometimes have bad consequences.
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Price controls are almost always a good idea AngryAmish May 2012 #1
Price controls weren't the problem in the 70's. Ken Burch May 2012 #3
you are wrong naaman fletcher May 2012 #13
Yeah, so letting food be priced so that only the rich could afford most of it Ken Burch May 2012 #2
Hyperbole much? hack89 May 2012 #4
The free market never serves the poor. Ken Burch May 2012 #6
What ever kind of market they have in Venezuela doesn't seem to be good for the poor either. nt hack89 May 2012 #7
what do you mean naaman fletcher May 2012 #15
They did just before the coup against Allende Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #25
There was a lot of malnutrition in Chile during the Friedman years Ken Burch May 2012 #26
I did not know that naaman fletcher May 2012 #32
High food prices wouldn't have led to more food being grown Ken Burch May 2012 #11
except that doesn't happen anywhere there is a market naaman fletcher May 2012 #22
Plentiful food = cheap food hack89 May 2012 #23
The food industry in Venezuela is in private hands Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #24
Thanks for pointing that out. Ken Burch May 2012 #28
The people at Walmart can pretty much only afford junk food. Ken Burch May 2012 #29
cant find? or people dont want? ccavagnolo May 2012 #37
they import about 70% of food anyway so they are still subject to free market pricing Bacchus4.0 May 2012 #5
I changed it to "only the rich"...that is, only a tiny minority of the Russian population. Ken Burch May 2012 #8
it hasn't here in the states. there is more than enough food although prices have increased Bacchus4.0 May 2012 #9
have you been to russia? naaman fletcher May 2012 #17
Yes, YOU can...buy you're a wealthy foreign tourist. Ken Burch May 2012 #18
you are wrong naaman fletcher May 2012 #20
so what happened then? naaman fletcher May 2012 #14
The shelves are full, but that's meaningless to the vast majority of the Russian people Ken Burch May 2012 #16
huh? naaman fletcher May 2012 #19
Price controls without subsidies cause these kinds of problems Taverner May 2012 #10
Thanks. Ken Burch May 2012 #12
The story is about shortages at government subsidized stores hack89 May 2012 #21
So there aren't really food shortages Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #27
Do you really expect producers to lose money? nt hack89 May 2012 #30
seems to me they would need to subsidize the producers Bacchus4.0 May 2012 #36
No, I don't expect capitalist to lose money... white_wolf May 2012 #38
Good point. Ken Burch May 2012 #31
nope, Ven imports 70% of its food Bacchus4.0 May 2012 #34
yes, there are. The producers aren't producing. Read the article Bacchus4.0 May 2012 #33
companies and producers cannot make a profit. iandhr May 2012 #35
locking maddezmom May 2012 #39
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