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BlancheSplanchnik

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83. Thanks for explaining...

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:39 PM

Jun 2015

Much appreciated. It's way out of my knowledge base, but it seems that pairing TAA with TPP acknowledges that we can expect lots of lost jobs from TPP.

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Obama-backed trade bill fails in the House [View all] iandhr Jun 2015 OP

I'm far from the smartest guy in the room, but I really think this Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #1

I think I can sleep now. I can breathe now too. I think I was holding my breath roguevalley Jun 2015 #14

BULLSHIT! Dems just eff'ed US workers AllTooEasy Jun 2015 #42

I now understand your point. I don't think I'm stupid, but maybe I am a little Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #45

Actually, fast track was tied to this, and thus is now scuttled Babel_17 Jun 2015 #90

The poster is wrong, this was an excellent decision by Dems. It is now unlikely sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #109

Excellent summation & spot on bread_and_roses Jun 2015 #111

It bears a close watch, but having once voted our way ... Babel_17 Jun 2015 #113

It will, these people don't give up and don't take no for an answer. But for now, it is at least sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #115

No they didn't. Who wants a TAA funded by stealing from medicare? PSPS Jun 2015 #58

Well, you can't let the bad.... daleanime Jun 2015 #62

Well said. Kinda' like having a choice between poop and turd nikto Jun 2015 #92

There were no worker protections and no enforcement mechanism. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #61

+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #64

I think it's more complicated than zentrum Jun 2015 #69

Thank you. rbnyc Jun 2015 #99

I know what you mean. zentrum Jun 2015 #103

The money to fund the worker assistance program was to be taken from Medicare. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #72

Thanks for explaining... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #83

Excellent post! green917 Jun 2015 #89

Exactly right! nikto Jun 2015 #94

Thanks for laying it all out there. LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #110

Training for jobs that'll be offshored anyway? AND crippling Medicare patients? nt valerief Jun 2015 #77

If this trade bill has a need to have something to protect workers WoodyM90 Jun 2015 #86

Thank you. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #95

alltoeasy, way to influence. oh wait ... roguevalley Jun 2015 #102

You do know the two are linked together rpannier Jun 2015 #104

Wrong, first of all, we are told there will be NO job loss due to TPA, yet, they tried to placate sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #108

TAA = Medicare CUTS. No TAA = NO fasttrack = no TPP GOOD. Vincardog Jun 2015 #114

Sorry. But this is not over. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #56

You'll know it's over when HRC decides it's safe to take a public position on it. Divernan Jun 2015 #73

Thank you. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #80

And thank you for your clear explanation of this enbtire cesspool. pangaia Jun 2015 #85

Just saw the Wapo Breaking BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #2

There needs to be publication, discussion, and negotiation. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #7

I expect it has to do with the sausage-making that happens in negotiations BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #18

yes! drray23 Jun 2015 #3

YES!!!!!!!!! newfie11 Jun 2015 #4

This is the TPP we're talking about, yes? gopiscrap Jun 2015 #5

No, something related to it though. harun Jun 2015 #10

ok thanks, I was wondering because of the wording! gopiscrap Jun 2015 #15

It's a confusing mess. zentrum Jun 2015 #71

Have a nice weekend, Mr. President frylock Jun 2015 #6

I am not religious but halle-freaking-luliah rurallib Jun 2015 #8

Yeah! Someone lend me their God for a moment Plucketeer Jun 2015 #33

Thank God!!!!!! 840high Jun 2015 #38

Thanks! Plucketeer Jun 2015 #44

I for one, am not sorry Obama lost this. TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #9

i share some of those same thoughts. hopemountain Jun 2015 #81

Not the CIA, but big business... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #88

However I am hearing that TPA passed shawn703 Jun 2015 #11

It doesn't go back rpannier Jun 2015 #105

A little more information n2doc Jun 2015 #12

+1. nt bemildred Jun 2015 #23

Doesn't tell whole story. Obama got the fast track authority in second bill. EndElectoral Jun 2015 #13

Wait. So you're saying that the part of the trade deal that might serve to Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #28

Correct Red Oak Jun 2015 #35

Is it too cynical to think that these are separate bills in order to kill the one Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #36

Well, the one that "helps workers" is funded by stealing from Medicare jeff47 Jun 2015 #47

About time they started acting like Democrats. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #16

Dems actually behaving like Dems should DebbieCDC Jun 2015 #17

Calling our members in Congress has Duval Jun 2015 #19

Does anyone know where to find the vote breakdown? I want to know which Democrats voted for it. totodeinhere Jun 2015 #20

Here you go and make sure to call the DINOs that voted Aye Red Oak Jun 2015 #75

Thanks a lot. That's just what I wanted to know. totodeinhere Jun 2015 #78

Yes Here it is. ImaPolitico Jun 2015 #97

YES !!! Hoppy Jun 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author wolfie001 Jun 2015 #22

At first I was ecstatic, then I paid attention. lark Jun 2015 #24

Only if the Senate goes along n2doc Jun 2015 #25

We will soon know. lark Jun 2015 #27

But a stand alone bill probably will not get through the Senate. You are correct though. totodeinhere Jun 2015 #26

We aren't safe yet!! lark Jun 2015 #30

Fingers crossed too! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #39

Paying attention is always a good idea DFW Jun 2015 #49

true lark Jun 2015 #51

Kick and R BeanMusical Jun 2015 #29

Is the voting closed? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #31

I'm crying - I am so happy!!!!!! 840high Jun 2015 #32

You may want to hold your tears for a bit . . . markpkessinger Jun 2015 #79

Next step : Force Hillary and the others to take a stand on this. BlueStreak Jun 2015 #34

And I will give Hillary some credit for her position today BlueStreak Jun 2015 #116

That was a weird way of doing it frazzled Jun 2015 #37

The TAA was going to be funded by raiding Medicare magical thyme Jun 2015 #43

It was more complex than that frazzled Jun 2015 #76

I firmly believe the bill will NOT pass without TAA whathehell Jun 2015 #54

"Smart" may not be the best adjective. However, it is perhaps the best that could be done salib Jun 2015 #57

Big props to the DEMS who fought against the trade bil. bigwillq Jun 2015 #40

Sorry Mr. President... SoapBox Jun 2015 #41

Am I the only one? ImaPolitico Jun 2015 #98

Thanks to all who called the whitehouse and Congress, you're talking democracy! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #46

The TAA failed, but the TPA passed, another vote next week Baclava Jun 2015 #48

Not good Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #52

Probably Never happen abelenkpe Jun 2015 #60

Pelosi is now saying NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #63

Wait, what? abelenkpe Jun 2015 #66

I think she was NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #68

Lady Liberty! Baclava Jun 2015 #65

!! Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #50

Republicans wanted to take the money for worker assistance of of Medicare. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #53

The displaced worker fund chev52 Jun 2015 #55

One of the few times I wanted one of the President's issues to not bear fruit. I'm glad but I'm.... marble falls Jun 2015 #59

Rest assured it is not over yet, not by a long shot. zeemike Jun 2015 #67

as someone who proudly wore the brand "obama cheerleader' DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #70

Eloquently stated, sir! Divernan Jun 2015 #74

I just got home and wondered what had happened with the vote. Thanks for the updates. nt antigop Jun 2015 #82

I just heard that Obama may have wanted this to appease China. Kablooie Jun 2015 #84

momentum dpatbrown Jun 2015 #87

An article at Salon shows why this was important Babel_17 Jun 2015 #91

Excellent article. rbnyc Jun 2015 #100

finallly CullenBohannon Jun 2015 #93

Hillary's corporate backers must be very pissed off. L0oniX Jun 2015 #96

IDK, I try to stay away from Wall St investors. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #112

I love the Nelson Munce Ha! Ha! neverforget Jun 2015 #101

Fuck Yes!!! Phlem Jun 2015 #106

Good riddance grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #107