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106. The TPP is progress.

Reply to Maedhros (Reply #76)

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 06:07 AM

Apr 2015

Global free trade is what made the world what it is. Without it we would still be living in caves.

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Obama Dismisses Democratic Foes Of Sweeping Trade Pact, Says It Would Level Global Commerce [View all] Purveyor Apr 2015 OP

Eat your peas, Sander. merrily Apr 2015 #1

If E.F.F. is against it, I'm against it. TheBlackAdder Apr 2015 #51

I like peas. DCBob Apr 2015 #107

Turncoat SamKnause Apr 2015 #2

But isn't this what he promised to do? Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #28

+1. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #79

No. The notion that Democratic voters voted for the TPP is too ludicrous to merrily Apr 2015 #90

ok but here is a link to the official 2012 Democratic Party platform where it supports TPP Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #110

You realize there was no primary in 2012, right? Obama v. Romney, right? merrily Apr 2015 #111

Ok I guess you're right. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #113

You would have to ask the Party and labor union executives that. People I know wanted a primary. merrily Apr 2015 #124

Well whatever the problem was, we seem to still have it Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #125

Seeing through smoke screens is a good skill. merrily Apr 2015 #126

NO! He ran on renegotiating NAFTA!!!! cascadiance Apr 2015 #96

I had the same reaction, but have edited my post. merrily Apr 2015 #100

Sorry, I was right about cheese sandwich the first time and so are you. merrily Apr 2015 #112

Yeah I probably was just in error Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #114

He also promised to renegotiate NAFTA, too, but we didn't get that. n/t amandabeech Apr 2015 #115

I keep flashing back to this Onion story that ran right after he was elected in 2008: woo me with science Apr 2015 #123

I called Gillibrand... iandhr Apr 2015 #3

Amen..... daleanime Apr 2015 #60

"We stopped the President from bombing Syria." NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #77

i don't mean DU iandhr Apr 2015 #81

If Obama intended to bomb Syria ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #82

Exactly, Nance.. they should stick to taking credit when it's due.. EarlG got it.. Cha Apr 2015 #88

^Post of the day^ Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #89

.. Cha Apr 2015 #92

You should see his posts from August-September, 2013 n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #101

No need to tamp down the violence in Syria jakeXT Apr 2015 #109

No outcry from this nation merrily Apr 2015 #91

Obama states the problem well, but offers the wrong solution: JDPriestly Apr 2015 #4

+1 Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #108

Not going to happen with the Japanese. amandabeech Apr 2015 #116

n/t KoKo Apr 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #6

Right because that vigorous fight for healthcare reform doesn't count at all! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #8

The vigorous fight for healthcare reform was Great for the insurance companies, no public option bahrbearian Apr 2015 #20

Biggest Disappointment Ever Ned Flanders Apr 2015 #39

Disappointment? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #59

It was great for me too during the 4 months I was unemployed last year... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #55

I love giving my money to insurance company CEO's, I have no Choice. bahrbearian Apr 2015 #64

I like having healthcare when I am unemployed...thanks! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #65

Public option bahrbearian Apr 2015 #66

So? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #67

Yay, RomneyCare/BobDoleCare blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #73

Also, too, Hillarycare (1990s). :) Larry Engels Apr 2015 #80

That would be what created "BobDoleCare" jeff47 Apr 2015 #83

Yes a fight we lost. zeemike Apr 2015 #41

Where did we lose? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #56

Well that is pretty much a losers attitude. zeemike Apr 2015 #72

Yep. I knew each time when he feigned impotence, and cried crocodile tears. It was always GoneFishin Apr 2015 #23

Exactly.. sendero Apr 2015 #50

Do you people STILL call yourselves Democrats? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #58

Yeah. "Democratic". Do you still call yourself democratic? Because a democratic system GoneFishin Apr 2015 #70

enough of this WE shit Skittles Apr 2015 #69

Sad to say I was. Big time, and for a lot of $$. merrily Apr 2015 #93

Absolutely - 840high Apr 2015 #85

He can coast for life now, and elehhhhna Apr 2015 #128

I know it. After he voted to retroactively immunize the telecomms from breaking laws that would GoneFishin Apr 2015 #130

...! I took "Level" the Global Economy to mean Disaster..which I think it is...n/t KoKo Apr 2015 #7

I had the exact same thought: I don't want to be on THAT level!! arcane1 Apr 2015 #30

yep. interesting choice of words to be sure. frylock Apr 2015 #33

Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #9

Mr. President sir, asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #10

Exactly, asiliveandbreathe, jomin41 Apr 2015 #14

It is nice that it levels the playing field between the US and India and China and others LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #11

That platform reads like it was written by an angry 12-year-old, while grounded in his room. arcane1 Apr 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #12

Good for Vietnam... jtuck004 Apr 2015 #13

Didn't you get the memo.... haikugal Apr 2015 #102

Ironic. Carter said we were hurting ourselves with our profligate spending, suggested we jtuck004 Apr 2015 #103

Irony indeed... nt haikugal Apr 2015 #104

And NAFTA was going to save Americans' jobs. LiberalEsto Apr 2015 #15

Democrats were probably very happy to have THAT third party candidate on the ballot. merrily Apr 2015 #94

It will "Level" it all right Demeter Apr 2015 #16

That is exactly right. zeemike Apr 2015 #45

+1. Level to rubble is exactly what I thought. This country isn't qualified to operate appalachiablue Apr 2015 #84

+1 840high Apr 2015 #86

Oh yippee, the change we hoped for! polichick Apr 2015 #17

A seat at the table Geronimoe Apr 2015 #18

...a giant sucking sound. SoapBox Apr 2015 #19

My way or no way doesn't fly with me at all. Fair trade, YES! Corporate Sovereignty, NO!!! Kip Humphrey Apr 2015 #21

"It Would Level Global Commerce" Punx Apr 2015 #22

That last thing you said. 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #25

it will standardize it at Bangladesh levels Doctor_J Apr 2015 #36

Exactly. LiberalLoner Apr 2015 #40

you left out Phlem Apr 2015 #78

Level global commerce. You mean like this? hedda_foil Apr 2015 #87

Corporatization of the world tomsaiditagain Apr 2015 #24

I sure HOPE the prez. CHANGEs his mind ASAP 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #26

Why not release the details of the TPP so it can be fairly evaluated by the people still_one Apr 2015 #27

And I hope that the Unions sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #29

Level global wages is more like it. Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #31

Do not forget donnasgirl Apr 2015 #43

And the 12-hour work day 7 days a week. n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #46

It will level us all under the steamroller of global corporate rule FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #32

greatest, most liberal president in history Doctor_J Apr 2015 #35

non-lame duck president kicks ass!!!11!11! Doctor_J Apr 2015 #37

This is the same bullshit Clinton peddled with NAFTA DebbieCDC Apr 2015 #38

He will bring balance to the force. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #42

Level Global Commerce???? bvar22 Apr 2015 #44

Does that mean the U.S. would get their jobs back? valerief Apr 2015 #47

I called Baldwin, Johnson and Pocan Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #48

The differences between the parties are so clear and dramatic that it's hard to see how anyone who MisterP Apr 2015 #49

More "change" we can believe in. democrank Apr 2015 #52

Obama may dismiss foes of TPP Thespian2 Apr 2015 #53

"Make me do it." "Eat your peas." "Obama dismisses his critics." merrily Apr 2015 #99

Takes guts and commitment to tell a lot of Democrats who are either misinformed or playing politics Hoyt Apr 2015 #54

Amen, Hoyt!!!! rury Apr 2015 #61

I'm even more convinced Obama is going to do the right thing. Joe Turner Apr 2015 #127

Nope, foreign corporations can't trump US law... NAFTa which has the same provision Hoyt Apr 2015 #129

Probably the best indication you're actually a Republican posting on a Democratic site. n/t brentspeak Apr 2015 #131

Right. Trusting Obama is being a Republican. You have anything substantive to say? Hoyt Apr 2015 #133

Yes: The GOP, the US Chamber of Commerce, and the Heritage Foundation all trust brentspeak Apr 2015 #134

Well, you seem to be on the side of low info Tbaggers on this one. So what does that tell you? Hoyt Apr 2015 #135

I wish he had fought this hard for the public option. The Chamber of Commerce owns Obama. Skeeter Barnes Apr 2015 #57

takes guts to stand up there . . FairWinds Apr 2015 #62

And Elizabeth Warren and other critics are proving that. Hoyt Apr 2015 #63

That's the problem madville Apr 2015 #68

The TPP is a betrayal of the American working people. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #71

http://cdn1.godfatherpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/obama-pinocchio.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #74

From a right wing web site. Christ. Hoyt Apr 2015 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #97

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This puts the lie to any inkling of a notion that Obama is 'Progressive:' Maedhros Apr 2015 #76

That started to be exposed when he appointd Rahm and the hits have just kept coming. merrily Apr 2015 #95

The TPP is progress. DCBob Apr 2015 #106

And why are the huge trade deficit and huge job losses of free trade treaties "good" for us... cascadiance Apr 2015 #117

because people tend to buy the cheapest product no matter where its made. DCBob Apr 2015 #119

They are forced to do this by the coordinated effort to also steal their wages too at the same time! cascadiance Apr 2015 #120

I agree many feel forced into survival mode. DCBob Apr 2015 #122

Yes, I thank NAFTA and CAFTA everyday for me not living in a cave brentspeak Apr 2015 #132

We've had global trade for hundreds of years. senz Jun 2016 #137

So....tell me if I'm off-base here Novara Apr 2015 #105

I like he used the phrase "Leveling global commerce". christx30 Apr 2015 #118

Bullshit! ananda Apr 2015 #121

Obama needs to sumbit to lengthy questioning on the TPP RussBLib Apr 2015 #136