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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #139)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:23 PM

Skinner (63,347 posts)

146. Not sure.

We don't think they are nearly as important under the new system, because identities will be harder to figure out.

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525 replies	Author	Time	Post
DU General Election Season Begins Soon: What You Need To Know [View all]	Skinner	Jun 2016	OP
kick & recommended.	William769	Jun 2016	#1
Nothing will make me forgive Dr. Strange. Nothing.	Orrex	Jun 2016	#2
A big K&R---Time to kick in some more money to DU.	trumad	Jun 2016	#3
This sounds good.	DCBob	Jun 2016	#4
Enormous K & R.	Surya Gayatri	Jun 2016	#5
KNR	Lucinda	Jun 2016	#6
Halle-fucking-lujah! DU will once again be the ...	11 Bravo	Jun 2016	#7
At the expense of the UNDERGROUND.	Hissyspit	Jun 2016	#471
Sounds good. I hope it works well! mean it.	boston bean	Jun 2016	#8
Yes. nt	msanthrope	Jun 2016	#17
+1000	gollygee	Jun 2016	#33
It's always baffled me that it was never there.	NYC Liberal	Jun 2016	#46
Yes it does...	Phentex	Jun 2016	#74
That's a very uncharitable suggestion of all the people who choose not to or cannot pay.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2016	#211
Just trolls...	Phentex	Jun 2016	#216
People used to buy others a star in the past. Usually if the person was a valued member who	kerry-is-my-prez	Jun 2016	#276
Any donation buys you a star	BainsBane	Jun 2016	#294
It doesn't even do that.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2016	#352
I don't have extra $$ to donate to DU like I used to. I don't appreciate the assumption	auntAgonist	Jun 2016	#521
Totally agree	BooScout	Jun 2016	#194
YUP.... +++++	hlthe2b	Jun 2016	#202
Plus a billion on the sexism, it's about time.	bettyellen	Jun 2016	#252
Yes, + another billion.	Maru Kitteh	Jun 2016	#306
Ready!	ucrdem	Jun 2016	#9
K&R for great plans	PJMcK	Jun 2016	#10
Thank you. And I hope there will be a big ass link to the rules page at the start of each forum!	Native	Jun 2016	#11
I'm in!	Loki	Jun 2016	#12
Thanks, benevolent overlord!	UrbScotty	Jun 2016	#13
Major K&R	EileenFB	Jun 2016	#14
How about reading the rules	mountain grammy	Jun 2016	#36
Your winner/whiner thing will have to go.	panader0	Jun 2016	#77
I think they have til June 16th.	MH1	Jun 2016	#213
I hate those bugs (n/t)	PJMcK	Jun 2016	#236
Taken care of	EileenFB	Jun 2016	#293
I'm a Hillary supporter and I don't like that sig pic either.	Lisa0825	Jun 2016	#166
I have to agree. It only serves to drive the people we need away from our party and candidate.	kerry-is-my-prez	Jun 2016	#278
Excellent. A lot of effort and thought went into this. Thank you. nt	msanthrope	Jun 2016	#15
Thank you Skinner. Some much-needed rule changes here.	NYC Liberal	Jun 2016	#16
That's the plan.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#61
Thanks.	NYC Liberal	Jun 2016	#70
The flaw is that some people here are 'organized' and they will keep alerting on a post	-none	Jun 2016	#303
The reactionaries won.	sulphurdunn	Jun 2016	#354
a conservative female won the primary	Doctor_J	Jun 2016	#377
Shes liberal	squirecam	Jun 2016	#380
.	Doctor_J	Jun 2016	#384
By your standards Bernie would be a conservative as well. Lumping Hillary in	redstateblues	Jun 2016	#427
Will you support Clinton when she agitates for war with Iran?	Ikonoklast	Jun 2016	#476
Maybe some of them do.	chwaliszewski	Jun 2016	#478
New Democrats love foreign wars and intervention in conflicts having nothing to do with us.	Ikonoklast	Jun 2016	#489
If they are shot down unanimously, as one would expect to be the case if it is totally frivolous,	Nitram	Jun 2016	#88
I think it sounds pretty good. nt	BootinUp	Jun 2016	#18
Thank goodness!	PatSeg	Jun 2016	#19
Yes, some true colors were surely shown and will not be forgotten. nt	ChisolmTrailDem	Jun 2016	#267
I'd like to think I'll remember	OriginalGeek	Jun 2016	#347
Wow, this all looks pretty great.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#20
Agreed.	spooky3	Jun 2016	#47
Because we have come to view it as a catalyst for forum drama.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#69
Fair enough.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#75
There is such a rule--included in the "Content" section above:	tblue37	Jun 2016	#114
But you have included a rule forbidding jurors to post those results, so	tblue37	Jun 2016	#109
We learned from the years when we had rules...	Skinner	Jun 2016	#118
Skinner, if the posting of Jury Results was alert-able violation - we'd quickly learn not to do it.	vkkv	Jun 2016	#165
I have to agree.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#263
i agree with you all.	phylny	Jun 2016	#376
I agree.	JudyM	Jun 2016	#357
Agreed.	snot	Jun 2016	#447
I would be less inclined to pay for a star in order to serve on juries if...	ChisolmTrailDem	Jun 2016	#272
I understand your point about not publishing the results	mentalsolstice	Jun 2016	#173
I just took myself off the willing to serve. If I can't find out what happened....	trueblue2007	Jun 2016	#519
I just served on a jury for the 1st time under new rules, totally unsatisfying!	mentalsolstice	Jun 2016	#520
Your new approach to jury duty will make me willing to serve again.	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2016	#177
Guilty...	Agschmid	Jun 2016	#305
I also like to know whether I am an outlier or not.	tblue37	Jun 2016	#102
My first reaction was not to like this too but I think in the new incarnation of the jury system it	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#197
Well, we will see how it works. I have never liked not knowing the outcome of	tblue37	Jun 2016	#203
Yes, in psychology we call it "observer drift" or "observer bias"	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#260
That caught my eye as well.	Chemisse	Jun 2016	#394
So "BernieBros" and "BoB" meets a welcome demise on the 16th. Thank you.	Miles Archer	Jun 2016	#21
Just to clarify, I mean the nicknames, not the supporters.	Miles Archer	Jun 2016	#67
Yes, disrespectful nicknames are not permitted. (nt)	Skinner	Jun 2016	#72
thanks	squirecam	Jun 2016	#383
Who decides what's disrespectful?	baldguy	Jun 2016	#444
Sounds like a plan skinner. Good job.	applegrove	Jun 2016	#22
That must have been a great deal of work for Elad! Good luck with this, I really hope it works	MADem	Jun 2016	#23
God dammit, I guess I finally have to get a star...	Godhumor	Jun 2016	#24
The winning change...	onehandle	Jun 2016	#25
I can live with this	ahimsa	Jun 2016	#174
High five	Peachhead22	Jun 2016	#412
Verbatim	lupinella	Jun 2016	#484
Been here over a year	DVRacer	Jun 2016	#429
This excellent news calls for some dancing...	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#26
says something about me that my first thot	irisblue	Jun 2016	#375
Sounds good, a lot of us can do better individually, and we can all do better collectively nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#27
That's a lot of work that went into this	sharp_stick	Jun 2016	#28
K&R!	stonecutter357	Jun 2016	#29
It looks like you are taking all the fun out of serving on a jury.	Tobin S.	Jun 2016	#30
Agreed--to the serious part!	spooky3	Jun 2016	#40
~ Kicked & Recommended ~	In_The_Wind	Jun 2016	#31
I do a lot of SQA IRL if you need help. AND I get the cast off my hand today so I can be effective!!	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#32
I'll bet you are looking forward to that!!	brer cat	Jun 2016	#273
"The privilege to serve on a Jury ...active Star membership." That's beautiful, man. n/t	jtuck004	Jun 2016	#34
How many of us go "star-less", waiting to purchase hearts?	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jun 2016	#355
"No kooky...content"? That's my go to. Oh well, ok.	NightWatcher	Jun 2016	#35
I think the Lounge may still accept non-political kooky content. Don't lose hope!	LonePirate	Jun 2016	#120
On personal attacks...	Gormy Cuss	Jun 2016	#37
Don't know.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#78
That percent of active posters may change after the 16th, Gormy.	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2016	#84
A lot are leaving and going to be leaving too after the treatment they've gotten here by...	ChisolmTrailDem	Jun 2016	#279
Long time ago I learned I did not have to bite every fishhook around.	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2016	#364
A-yup.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2016	#500
Overall I say the changes should be good. I'm looking forward to your tweaks too.	LiberalFighter	Jun 2016	#38
Great, but I have one suggestion:	spooky3	Jun 2016	#39
Agree; I posted this above.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#44
Yes--it appears several of us agree.	spooky3	Jun 2016	#45
Me three	Nitram	Jun 2016	#94
I also agree.	montana_hazeleyes	Jun 2016	#195
I also agree.	femmocrat	Jun 2016	#148
Don't you think one would be able to determine if they were off base or not	notadmblnd	Jun 2016	#285
I like knowing the explanations, and whether it was 6-1 vs 4-3 for example.	spooky3	Jun 2016	#392
From what I read there'll no longer be an opportunity for comments when adjudicating offensive posts	notadmblnd	Jun 2016	#408
If you'll check my earlier posts, I (and others) suggested that	spooky3	Jun 2016	#414
well I feel there will be no benefit from letting people post their judgemental remarks	notadmblnd	Jun 2016	#415
The notification gives you a link back to what was judicated	mentalsolstice	Jun 2016	#393
That would require that you go search for that thread and that post.	Chemisse	Jun 2016	#397
You are provided a link to the post when you are asked to perform jury service	notadmblnd	Jun 2016	#406
This message was self-deleted by its author	arikara	Jun 2016	#100
I agree with that too	Duckhunter935	Jun 2016	#106
I learn from reading others' opinions as well. nt	Ilsa	Jun 2016	#168
This message was self-deleted by its author	totodeinhere	Jun 2016	#231
Not only do I agree, but even if it was left alone, the poster needs to know	Reter	Jun 2016	#442
Skinner has previously stated that this would freak out the poster.	athena	Jun 2016	#455
Thank you, Admins! The new DU rules look very promising!	BlueCaliDem	Jun 2016	#41
Sounds like the DU I remember - the one I became addicted to	liberal N proud	Jun 2016	#42
"Don't start threads in the wrong forum or group"	etherealtruth	Jun 2016	#43
^^Good question^^^	Bobbie Jo	Jun 2016	#59
We will still have hosts.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#80
Thanks, Skinner!	greatauntoftriplets	Jun 2016	#48
It looks good. Thanks for the hard work to make this place better.	Agnosticsherbet	Jun 2016	#49
Thank you for letting us know where we stand	Marrah_G	Jun 2016	#50
TL:DR	progressoid	Jun 2016	#51
I found it sometimes helpful to evaulate posts in-thread ...	Auggie	Jun 2016	#52
Jurors will still get the necessary context.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#81
I like all the changes except one. the one about the star requirement.	Exilednight	Jun 2016	#53
I think it's to show commitment to the website.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#56
I agree.	Exilednight	Jun 2016	#64
Good news is that now you can get a star for a dollar.	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2016	#223
We cannot buy stars for someone else anymore.	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2016	#188
Oh, I didn't know that.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#192
Not directly, but you could paypal them some $ for the purpose.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#200
Prior to the required "subscription" model, DUers dis buy stars for other people.	Miles Archer	Jun 2016	#517
Serving on juries is a privilege.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#92
So providing content ...	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#175
Also the 1000+ post requirement,though	The Green Manalishi	Jun 2016	#229
Well I'd be off...	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#243
The world will continue to turn without me.	The Green Manalishi	Jun 2016	#249
Won't matter much to me....	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#259
Got to make up for the loss of all the "Berniebros" revenue somehow right?	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#265
You do realize....	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#277
You do realize	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#280
Trolls aren't dropping $20 to become members	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#297
You can get a star for $1.	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#316
And give up your real name, real email address, etc.	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#325
Sold out!	SouthernDemLinda	Jun 2016	#321
"Providing content?" That seems like a high handed way of saying	MADem	Jun 2016	#504
Seems to me	Curmudgeoness	Jun 2016	#438
Yeah, I mean, I'm not a star member, but I'm also not that concerned about serving on juries...	kjones	Jun 2016	#98
Good idea - those non-star members who have to face the advertising on this site are still playing	vkkv	Jun 2016	#186
Is there any minimum price to get a star?	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#295
Outstanding!	Bobbie Jo	Jun 2016	#54
I might need a 'sarcasm shield' of some kind for my posts.	fleabiscuit	Jun 2016	#55
Well i hope the new rules help and i promise to try to do better.	hrmjustin	Jun 2016	#57
I have one quick question.	herding cats	Jun 2016	#58
If you find the post after you are finished with jury service...	Skinner	Jun 2016	#93
It's not a big deal anyway	herding cats	Jun 2016	#172
what you just said seems contrary to what you said upthread:	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2016	#204
To clarify	Skinner	Jun 2016	#217
I take it that ends grave-dancing and terms like DINO	Maeve	Jun 2016	#60
Hey hey, look at my shiny new star!	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#62
I find the 1000 post rule	notemason	Jun 2016	#63
Agreed. "Star members who have been members for a year and have at least 100 posts"	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#154
Thank you.	notemason	Jun 2016	#178
Yaaaay! FINALLY!!!!! This is long overdue. nt	AgadorSparticus	Jun 2016	#65
Kicked and recommended! Thank you Skinner and admin team...	Firebrand Gary	Jun 2016	#66
I know how you feel, Gary.	calimary	Jun 2016	#513
So... we're to shut up and bow our heads..	modestybl	Jun 2016	#68
You managed to get pretty much the opposite of what Skinner was saying. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#115
I understand we are not to criticize Dem candidates from here on out...	modestybl	Jun 2016	#130
Here's a good example. "I don't agree with Bernie's characterization of his history of support or	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#176
Thank you. This is a very good example of criticism vs bashing.	uppityperson	Jun 2016	#282
Another example please?	SouthernDemLinda	Jun 2016	#334
Sure, I dont agree with Bernie supporters characterization of the email investigation.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#348
Calling out bad policies, losing strategies, corruption and outright lying has always been permitted	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#300
Nope, this is different:	Hissyspit	Jun 2016	#472
No, he's asking you/us to STOP being the Dem version of Free Republic. n/t	Lil Missy	Jun 2016	#512
This change: Alerters and Jurors will no longer receive notifications after Jury service is complete	vkkv	Jun 2016	#71
I agree. It's useful & informative to see the results. n/t	99th_Monkey	Jun 2016	#179
Thirded (n/t)	Jon Ace	Jun 2016	#399
That combined with the 1,000 post rule	marle35	Jun 2016	#480
Thank you Skinner, it looks good	passiveporcupine	Jun 2016	#73
That's an excellent idea.	Amimnoch	Jun 2016	#99
+1. nt	tblue37	Jun 2016	#144
I agree.	femmocrat	Jun 2016	#167
Posts should be able to reference RW pages when demolishing them or posting excerpts as examples.	Bernardo de La Paz	Jun 2016	#183
That does not change my request	passiveporcupine	Jun 2016	#222
A list might be good. & Skinner posted the rule which shows that RW links OK in the way I suggest.	Bernardo de La Paz	Jun 2016	#245
After I posted, Skinner replied to someone else that there won't be a list	passiveporcupine	Jun 2016	#269
What is Right wing or not, seems to depend on who posted the link and	-none	Jun 2016	#323
We've had a rash of articles posted from THE HILL	passiveporcupine	Jun 2016	#349
Totally agreed	Peachhead22	Jun 2016	#419
Thirded.	charlyvi	Jun 2016	#210
No. That makes it too easy to troll	ecstatic	Jun 2016	#266
I like this suggestion.	musicblind	Jun 2016	#497
Thank you!	mcar	Jun 2016	#76
Understood.	lpbk2713	Jun 2016	#79
Does "No divisive group attacks" mean no discussion of Third Way vs. traditional Democrats?	senz	Jun 2016	#82
It serves the Third Way to deny the existence of any distinction.	JonLeibowitz	Jun 2016	#242
You will stop using this photo after 16th	hertopos	Jun 2016	#413
To whom?	senz	Jun 2016	#423
Calling anyone you disagree with third way is an insult .	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#435
You have to pay to be on a jury?	Kentonio	Jun 2016	#83
Generally, don't you find that free things and opportunities are less appreciated? Plus,	vkkv	Jun 2016	#97
Yes. Just like the nominee. Pay to play.	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#286
I like "Don't bash Democratic public figures".	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#85
+10^10^100	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#122
"May not be loved"	hueymahl	Jun 2016	#149
I agree with hueymahl and this concerns me too.	aquamarina	Jun 2016	#238
Agree 100%	workinclasszero	Jun 2016	#190
So, what's legitimate criticism versus "bashing" Democratic public figures? All those names deserve	leveymg	Jun 2016	#209
Take Rahm Emanuel as an example. I would vote to hide this post on the grounds of "bashing":	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#261
Reasonable.	leveymg	Jun 2016	#319
That's easy.	Dr Hobbitstein	Jun 2016	#287
+1. "Hillary should not have voted for the IWR"	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#298
Exactly. Nt	Dr Hobbitstein	Jun 2016	#304
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2016	#335
Agree, those are easy cases. But, it's the hard cases that are the problem, and	leveymg	Jun 2016	#327
"Hard cases" will probably end up with 4-3 jury decisions, one way or the other.	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#371
The 'first amendment' is only a protection from the government. (As are all the BoR rights.)	X_Digger	Jun 2016	#458
+1	brer cat	Jun 2016	#281
Yea, no more holding our own's feet to the fire or calling out authoritarian and right-wing...	ChisolmTrailDem	Jun 2016	#296
There have to be some exceptions	Reter	Jun 2016	#443
These changes look good, thanks Skinner, EarlG and Elad...	Spazito	Jun 2016	#86
The civility and political rules are clear and forceful as phrased.	tblue37	Jun 2016	#87
Does "the portion of the thread relevant to the alerted post" mean all posts in the 'ancestral line'	muriel_volestrangler	Jun 2016	#89
The entire "ancestral line."	Skinner	Jun 2016	#103
Yikes, you probably won't have too many posting on here from June until Nov.	glowing	Jun 2016	#90
I'm concerned about this also	hueymahl	Jun 2016	#163
See my #176 above. Skinner please feel free to correct me if I am off. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#180
"write in"	SouthernDemLinda	Jun 2016	#308
+1 !	FailureToCommunicate	Jun 2016	#411
Tiny Dreams vs. Tiny Hands	valerief	Jun 2016	#431
l look at it differently	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#439
I live in FL and we still have primaries in August for state and local races.	glowing	Jun 2016	#453
K&R!	DemonGoddess	Jun 2016	#91
Thanks. Can't wait. K&R	L. Coyote	Jun 2016	#95
Not sure I understand the point of the "gradation" of jury choices.	morningfog	Jun 2016	#96
The purpose of the gradation of jury choices...	Skinner	Jun 2016	#113
You could always retain the comments as....	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#199
Looks good. I'm sure there will be refinements, too,	MineralMan	Jun 2016	#101
Sounds like a successful plan. Thanks for your efforts.	oasis	Jun 2016	#104
A couple of questions regarding hidden posts:	George II	Jun 2016	#105
Answers.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#136
See ya after the 16th	pengu	Jun 2016	#107
Not having folks like you claim everyone they disagree with is a paid Brock shill is worth doubling	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#129
Ok?	pengu	Jun 2016	#132
You, apparently. You cared enough to respond. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#134
smh	pengu	Jun 2016	#143
How can we miss you	charlyvi	Jun 2016	#381
Unfair I was taking a drink when I scrolled down lol	DVRacer	Jun 2016	#452
See ya,	upaloopa	Jun 2016	#151
The thought police...	SouthernDemLinda	Jun 2016	#331
This is great news. I came to DU in 2001 to support Democrats.	OKNancy	Jun 2016	#108
Yes!!! Man, it will feel so good for DU to be DU again.	Lyric	Jun 2016	#110
Very cool. Liking the sound of the new jury system.	Politicub	Jun 2016	#111
Bravo!	ismnotwasm	Jun 2016	#112
Caution	Wibly	Jun 2016	#116
This is not the Democratic party this is an owner operated web site. Don't bash Democrats here	upaloopa	Jun 2016	#138
It's going to be just like the talk!	SouthernDemLinda	Jun 2016	#374
I notice that about 98% of the recs to this announcement are members of the HRC group.	panader0	Jun 2016	#117
Don't you have your jack shit or something other web site to keep bashing Hillary? Go there	upaloopa	Jun 2016	#121
I don't think insulting posts like yours will be allowed under the new rules.	panader0	Jun 2016	#126
What's insulting. You have your Hillary bashing web site call Jack something	upaloopa	Jun 2016	#133
"jack shit" is insulting.	panader0	Jun 2016	#159
I don't quite understand how the jack website survives now	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#437
Your use of the phrase "HRC worship" is noteworthy too.	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#150
When no critcism is allowed--what do you call it?	panader0	Jun 2016	#171
a lot of people will have to learn the relevant differences between criticism and name-calling	LanternWaste	Jun 2016	#208
I believe the names like "HRC worship" came about	All in it together	Jun 2016	#314
"jack shit" website is a snotty cheap shot sgainst progressive Dems	AntiBank	Jun 2016	#292
As near as I can tell, it's a website that exists for the sole purpose of taking pot-shots ...	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#366
Whether you realize it, you've just described the troll-haven	Rob H.	Jun 2016	#402
That's not a site that I visit. If you see someone touting it or encouraging defection ...	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#405
As near as I can tell,	Curmudgeoness	Jun 2016	#440
Sure.	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#445
Probably because we have been the targets of most of the nastiness here.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#157
the targets of most of the nastiness here.	AlbertCat	Jun 2016	#215
The objections to the civility rules from one corner is evidence enough. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#225
ridiculous narcissism	AntiBank	Jun 2016	#302
The objections to the new civility rules from one corner is evidence enough. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#307
I am not objecting in the slightest, simply saying it's a 2 way street	AntiBank	Jun 2016	#320
You are not the only Bernie supporter here. You mentioned narcissism? nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#329
I never claimed I was, nor that I spoke for them.	AntiBank	Jun 2016	#333
Bear in mind Newsmax, where you appear isn't going to be on the approved sources last...	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#361
Sure it will as it will when I appear on Fox. You are twisting Skinners rules	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#367
You first...	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#372
Well, I voted for Bernie yesterday	The Green Manalishi	Jun 2016	#248
Of course	melman	Jun 2016	#426
Good to see. How about not letting people use Polls to create an "enemies list".	mackdaddy	Jun 2016	#119
long overdue. the rules system worked very well, the jury system has proven quite flawed	unblock	Jun 2016	#123
Jurors will be able to see the context.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#131
ah, brilliant.	unblock	Jun 2016	#142
A quibble about context for alerted post	unc70	Jun 2016	#389
K & R and thank you for your hard work! nt	femmocrat	Jun 2016	#124
So paying members will sit in judgement of us all. No thanks and buh bye.	CBGLuthier	Jun 2016	#125
Bye and remember the thing about the door on the way out.	upaloopa	Jun 2016	#128
These changes seem like a move in the right direction. Thanks!	LonePirate	Jun 2016	#127
You don't know how correct you actually are.	-none	Jun 2016	#340
Thank you - good job	stevil	Jun 2016	#135
Lots of positive changes here.	Decoy of Fenris	Jun 2016	#137
QUESTION: Will "Jury Blacklists" be eliminated too? (nt)	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#139
Not sure.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#146
I think the blacklists prevent a lot of stalking...	bettyellen	Jun 2016	#256
^^^This^^^	-none	Jun 2016	#341
With the new rules, let them, they will lose their juror privileges. I may empty my blacklist	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#360
Now this sounds like a plan!	BooScout	Jun 2016	#140
With the move to GE standing, will Admin permit User Name changes now or after November? . . .	Journeyman	Jun 2016	#141
We do not have plans to do so at this time. (nt)	Skinner	Jun 2016	#153
Q: where is the list of prohibited right-wing publications, authors, or pundits?	john978	Jun 2016	#145
There is no list.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#152
But what if it is accurate....	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#185
The rule says	Skinner	Jun 2016	#187
And you risk being alerted...	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#207
And the new jury rules say the admins can overrule a jury's decision.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#246
And I'm betting it won't....	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#258
I agree with your analysis - seems DU wants to be the definition of establishment. nt	john978	Jun 2016	#301
I wonder if Fox news employees are allowed to post here	Doctor_J	Jun 2016	#432
{{{snort}}} Oh no you didn't!!! eom	Purveyor	Jun 2016	#436
Oh good now Joe Lieberman.....	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#147
Joe Lieberman did become an "Independent" and was elected Senator running against a Democrat. n/t	PoliticAverse	Jun 2016	#191
It seems from your posts in this thread that you have issues with the new rules, and that is fine,	still_one	Jun 2016	#353
The operative ......	Delver Rootnose	Jun 2016	#400
A democratic party supporting DU once more!	workinclasszero	Jun 2016	#155
Skinner, what about locks aquired during the primary process, will they reset back to 0?	Logical	Jun 2016	#156
Probably.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#161
I hope that is it, the trouble makers will get 5 soon enough. Thanks for all you do! Nt	Logical	Jun 2016	#201
I am sorry if someone asked and I missed it but are you implimenting the 5 hide rule like	hrmjustin	Jun 2016	#158
We will have a stopgap that will flag people who get five hides or more. (nt)	Skinner	Jun 2016	#164
Thanks.	hrmjustin	Jun 2016	#170
So, when do we get the GD-General election forum opened??? I'm ready to bash some trump!	Amimnoch	Jun 2016	#160
Oh my god that is so disturbing.	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#214
It is extremely disturbing isn't it...	Amimnoch	Jun 2016	#218
K&R nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Jun 2016	#162
I am glad to see	awoke_in_2003	Jun 2016	#169
Problem with graphic content and context rule	unc70	Jun 2016	#396
There should be a new LBN rule	Omaha Steve	Jun 2016	#181
No kooky, how about wacky? j/k n/t	hibbing	Jun 2016	#182
I agree with everything, except for "Alerters and Jurors will no longer receive notifications after	lunamagica	Jun 2016	#184
I agree	Blue Idaho	Jun 2016	#284
I'll miss serving on juries, but the changes look good -- I have no beef with them. Thanks! . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Jun 2016	#189
I don't understand the rationale for the 4 options (jury) and how	Ilsa	Jun 2016	#193
Sounds good!	yardwork	Jun 2016	#196
"Civility begets quality discussions"	wildeyed	Jun 2016	#198
Will we still be able to call AngryAmish an asshole?	AngryAmish	Jun 2016	#205
Post Olympic spoilers and see what happens...	Phentex	Jun 2016	#227
I like the proposed changes... nice job!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jun 2016	#206
Kick	treestar	Jun 2016	#212
So nobody can call me a Republican Troll or an uneducated voter again :-)	redstatebluegirl	Jun 2016	#219
Skinner: honest question	katsy	Jun 2016	#220
We believe that these rules do not disallow any good-faith discussion of issues.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#228
That's where my confusion lay.	katsy	Jun 2016	#264
Thank you, Elad and all other admins for your thoughtful work.	ancianita	Jun 2016	#221
Agree, agree. A breath of fresh air	SCantiGOP	Jun 2016	#224
Thank you, Skinner.	TygrBright	Jun 2016	#226
The votes are tallied as a binary Yes/No	Skinner	Jun 2016	#232
ah, OK, got that.	TygrBright	Jun 2016	#239
Back to where Democrats support Democrats. What a relief!!	demosincebirth	Jun 2016	#230
Amazing concept, no?	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#233
Yup.	demosincebirth	Jun 2016	#244
and where liberals are persona non grata	Doctor_J	Jun 2016	#382
Ahh, I can hardly wait for June 16th...like a kid waiting for	demosincebirth	Jun 2016	#430
...........	desmiller	Jun 2016	#234
What are "Transparency pages"? thanks n/t	left-of-center2012	Jun 2016	#235
It shows your hidden posts.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#237
Thanks for the comedy!	nolabels	Jun 2016	#240
This is an excellent start, thank you very much	steve2470	Jun 2016	#241
So apparently there will still be no penalty...	NaturalHigh	Jun 2016	#247
Not correct.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#250
Oh. Thanks for clarifying that.	NaturalHigh	Jun 2016	#251
Skinner- A possible suggestion for future consideration on the "jury results" issue.	TygrBright	Jun 2016	#253
Yet you will change nothing on DI? Where homophobia/etc stands (against TOS), anyone can serve, etc?	The Straight Story	Jun 2016	#254
Question:	Kelvin Mace	Jun 2016	#255
this is why	squirecam	Jun 2016	#387
I am sorry, was I speaking to you?	Kelvin Mace	Jun 2016	#407
Criticism does not mean insults.	Lord Magus	Jun 2016	#492
"registered for at least one year - more than 1,000 posts - active Star membership" -- 2 out of 3 ?	eppur_se_muova	Jun 2016	#257
Sounds good	annabanana	Jun 2016	#262
Everything looks good but I have a question.	IrishEyes	Jun 2016	#268
That is correct, but...	Skinner	Jun 2016	#271
Kinda defeats...	ymetca	Jun 2016	#270
Thank heavens!	tallahasseedem	Jun 2016	#274
Well, Most of This I Dig	ProfessorGAC	Jun 2016	#275
This sounds good!	brer cat	Jun 2016	#283
I hope every criticism of Hillary isn't labelled sexist and flagged as such	adigal	Jun 2016	#288
I think...	c-ville rook	Jun 2016	#289
Comments and concerns	Behind the Aegis	Jun 2016	#290
BtA, I have to say I agree with much of your post. Especially the part about transparency and	seaglass	Jun 2016	#344
This concern ^^^	Ms. Toad	Jun 2016	#404
In an ideal world, alerts regarding bigotry would be sent to jurors from the group in question.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#416
I think you're personally taking on a lot of grief	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#291
The appeals process is going to be a huge pain in the ass for the admins.	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#390
Out of curiosity...could you please comment on...	xocet	Jun 2016	#299
So DU is going to start supporting Democrats	IronLionZion	Jun 2016	#309
It's PUPPIES!!!	warrprayer	Jun 2016	#310
K&R	gademocrat7	Jun 2016	#311
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2016	#312
Love the new Jury System	RockaFowler	Jun 2016	#313
bookmarked	lovemydog	Jun 2016	#315
Presumptive nominee is not the nomiee	Geronimoe	Jun 2016	#317
No one is forcing you to support anyone.	leftofcool	Jun 2016	#330
Here is the link	Geronimoe	Jun 2016	#449
Thank You Skinner!	Blue Idaho	Jun 2016	#318
You'd better get a good lawyer!!!	pamela	Jun 2016	#322
lol	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#326
Uh oh, that's 101 now...	FSogol	Jun 2016	#362
good, lets get on with supporting democrats	MFM008	Jun 2016	#324
I appreciate all the work you guys	one_voice	Jun 2016	#328
Is there any way we could have a rule	tavernier	Jun 2016	#332
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t	RKP5637	Jun 2016	#336
Suggestion re: Jury time frames	Algernon Moncrieff	Jun 2016	#337
Enhhh... There've been times when I accepted a jury invite when browsing on my phone ...	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#369
I'll admit there have been a few when I had to go look at the thread to get context.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jun 2016	#451
Curious as to why, rather than instuting these rules earlier, you opted for a free for all	cui bono	Jun 2016	#338
I know some of you Sanders supporters believe this, I just can't see how you can delude yourself	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#343
If that were true, then all the more reason to enact the rules earlier so as not to show bias.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#420
Keep pretending you didn't control the juries and the overall tenor on DU.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#421
LOL! Yes, THAT'S why JPR was created. WE WANT TOTAL CONTROL!!!	cui bono	Jun 2016	#424
You can call yourselves whatever you want, it's what you did. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#425
I forgot to mention what you did. Posted one of the two most vile OPs in DU history.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#465
I'm Jewish, so no, I posted nothing anti-semitic. Nice try though. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#482
So? Another DUer who is a PoC posted a racist's rant and an anti-semitic post.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#494
You made the allegation, you provide the link. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#499
1. We all know that's against the rules. 2. I'm no longer a star member so search is useless.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#505
I'm so glad you raised all of this nonsense. I've been waiting for the opportunity.	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#514
I think you just got your rear handed to you. nt	msanthrope	Jun 2016	#515
Results...	Major Nikon	Jun 2016	#483
Thanks.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#507
"Progressives" who wanted to be able to	JTFrog	Jun 2016	#481
"The worst offenders were Sanders supporters?" I just can't see how you can delude yourself.	Miles Archer	Jun 2016	#518
This post is spot on.	Capt. Obvious	Jun 2016	#474
Kudos to you! Good start. One small point . . . .	Stinky The Clown	Jun 2016	#339
Question on "Don't bash Democratic public figures"...	backscatter712	Jun 2016	#342
Thank you, Skinner.	sheshe2	Jun 2016	#345
I appreciate the effort but do have concerns	angrychair	Jun 2016	#346
This sounds good to me	wysi	Jun 2016	#350
Can't wait! And thanks for everything.	nolabear	Jun 2016	#351
Okay.	H2O Man	Jun 2016	#356
No, this looks bad, H2O Man.	Hissyspit	Jun 2016	#470
Thank you. Kicking.	littlemissmartypants	Jun 2016	#358
Skinner, This is still a bit nebulous.	floriduck	Jun 2016	#359
Of course not.	Skinner	Jun 2016	#368
The Hill does lean right but I find their reporting on factual issues to be rather reliable.	PoliticAverse	Jun 2016	#403
Hopefully civility will begin to return.	BumRushDaShow	Jun 2016	#363
K&R ...	horseshoecrab	Jun 2016	#365
Are all the current hides going to be erased and everyone starts with a clean slate or is everyone..	ChisolmTrailDem	Jun 2016	#370
That worked out so well the last time....	truebrit71	Jun 2016	#373
Everyone should start clean	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#441
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2016	#460
argh, I will have to behave myself more	Skittles	Jun 2016	#378
Looking forward to a spirited but civil DU...	VOX	Jun 2016	#379
I say thank you also!	Greywing	Jun 2016	#386
So many of these are great but I hope you're not opening up a massive can of worms with this one	Number23	Jun 2016	#385
K&R!	SaschaHM	Jun 2016	#388
THANK YOU!	tarheelsunc	Jun 2016	#391
I " Bend the Knee" Skinner...	FarPoint	Jun 2016	#395
Thanks Skinner	JesterCS	Jun 2016	#398
About juries	Peachhead22	Jun 2016	#401
yep, cult-like reverence for dem public figures	stupidicus	Jun 2016	#409
Some of these rules are amazingly vaguely worded.	Hissyspit	Jun 2016	#473
indeed they are	stupidicus	Jun 2016	#488
This sounds great. Thanks. k&r	DesertRat	Jun 2016	#410
Don't believe in the word spoiler anymore though...	PatrynXX	Jun 2016	#417
The work that you three must have put into these changes is appreciated, but ...	countryjake	Jun 2016	#418
Thanks hopefully people will comply or just leave.	Historic NY	Jun 2016	#422
I do appreciate that you keep on trying.	SusanCalvin	Jun 2016	#428
Thanks for the information.	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#433
I've stayed out if the primary discussion intentionally.	Socal31	Jun 2016	#434
Easy Peasy Except RW Talking Points	billhicks76	Jun 2016	#446
I'm worried about this language in the rules, too.	snot	Jun 2016	#448
I support the Citizens United decision and also free trade.	Nye Bevan	Jun 2016	#450
there will be a contested convention -	hopemountain	Jun 2016	#454
looks like I won't be posting on the election soon	captainarizona	Jun 2016	#456
So, in a nutshell, common sense?	liberaltrucker	Jun 2016	#457
What is the rule on avatars?	pangaia	Jun 2016	#459
I am excited Administration. I can do this and the opportunity it is giving to DU. Very exciting.	seabeyond	Jun 2016	#461
I won't be able to serve on a jury until 2 days after the general election...	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#462
AGREE 100%	flying-skeleton	Jun 2016	#463
Not fair on the jury system	Lunabell	Jun 2016	#464
$1 gives you DU with no ads for a year	Renew Deal	Jun 2016	#477
You should add how many times someone has been on a jury back to profiles.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#466
Will the rules apply to "Groups"?	cui bono	Jun 2016	#467
Very Happy.....	bobGandolf	Jun 2016	#468
Very comprehensive. I look forward to implementation; jurying should be interesting.	Hekate	Jun 2016	#469
IF this part is followed	DonCoquixote	Jun 2016	#475
This is great, but has one flaw.	athena	Jun 2016	#479
Great point.	Dark n Stormy Knight	Jun 2016	#496
Blue Dogs	zipplewrath	Jun 2016	#485
Links to or reposting of outside works	zipplewrath	Jun 2016	#486
I hope this works. Not to be a Debbie Downer but I doubt it will.	Puglover	Jun 2016	#487
DU3 is morphing back into DU2, just without moderators.	Behind the Aegis	Jun 2016	#490
Probably because every bit of transparency has been abused and provided much more drama	stevenleser	Jun 2016	#491
Rather than denying transparency...	Behind the Aegis	Jun 2016	#493
Also, the amount of times someone served on a jury was eliminated.	cui bono	Jun 2016	#495
Exactly.	Puglover	Jun 2016	#498
Transition to Echo Chamber	deaniac21	Jun 2016	#501
Pfffft. If by "Echo Chamber" you mean people who hate Democrats are going to be checked, bring on	MADem	Jun 2016	#503
I'm pretty sure they meant the right wing of the Democratic Party fawning over a center-corporatist	cui bono	Jun 2016	#506
Hey,	deaniac21	Jun 2016	#516
Skinner, it is your site.	saidsimplesimon	Jun 2016	#502
Whoa, so this place is becoming a full blown and super loyalist to the Democratic party type site.	One Black Sheep	Jun 2016	#508
Skinner, would you consider leaving the notifications of jury results?	AgadorSparticus	Jun 2016	#509
Suggestion about members with many hides: set those at 5 or more back to 3 or 4	muriel_volestrangler	Jun 2016	#510
This message was self-deleted by its author	Miles Archer	Jun 2016	#511
The inability to see entire thread	randr	Jun 2016	#522
After having over a week	DemonGoddess	Jun 2016	#523
I like the changes.	LeftInTX	Sep 2016	#524
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2017	#525

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