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Maraya1969

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29. Another word for "Presidential omnipotence" is "Dictator. He really wants to be a dictator.

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Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:50 PM

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i'm still confused!! Can he or can't he pardon himself???? [View all] bluestarone Dec 2017 OP

Trump will do what he pleases, no one to stop him. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #1

No one really knows if he can Renew Deal Dec 2017 #2

That's unclear. However, the idea of pardoning oneself is MineralMan Dec 2017 #3

i would certainly hope bluestarone Dec 2017 #4

If he could pardon himself, he could just start killing people and pardon; do away with the Supreme shraby Dec 2017 #5

i hear you for sure bluestarone Dec 2017 #6

Let's not go overboard... brooklynite Dec 2017 #25

Thought I'd go overboard cause that's what trump tends to do. shraby Dec 2017 #39

It would go to the Supreme Court without any doubt Kentonio Dec 2017 #7

No. H2O Man Dec 2017 #8

A President cannot pardon people for crimes that involve him himself. DetlefK Dec 2017 #9

i would hope so bluestarone Dec 2017 #12

And what is the basis for that assertion? onenote Dec 2017 #16

I read that somewhere? DetlefK Dec 2017 #28

I'm not looking for legal advice. Was curious if there was a source for the claim in your post. onenote Dec 2017 #32

It's a theoretic one, involving a conflict of interest (I believe). shanny Dec 2017 #33

there's no basis for this in the constitution. unblock Dec 2017 #19

That would pretty much make him omnipotent Siwsan Dec 2017 #10

Another word for "Presidential omnipotence" is "Dictator. He really wants to be a dictator. Maraya1969 Dec 2017 #29

Yes he can. MaupitiBlue Dec 2017 #11

The Constitution Does Prevent a President from Pardoning MineralMan Dec 2017 #13

and that depends on congress so bluestarone Dec 2017 #15

Pretty much, at least until 2019. MineralMan Dec 2017 #17

the sequence would be: unblock Dec 2017 #14

TY in this case though would your #1 be bluestarone Dec 2017 #18

at this stage it would likely be mueller, but who know how this plays out. unblock Dec 2017 #20

The burdens for civil cases are vastly different than criminal cases. bench scientist Dec 2017 #22

i agree that the situation is different and the stakes are usually rather higher. unblock Dec 2017 #23

The more likely scenario is he Pardons pence, resigns, Pence then pardons him Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #21

yep bluestarone Dec 2017 #24

It would have to be tested in the courts. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #26

This. GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #40

Could Trump issue himself a pardon? Gothmog Dec 2017 #27

If he can pardon a turkey then. . . . Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #30

It's never been tried....However... Xolodno Dec 2017 #31

He can pardon himself, but it probably won't stand up to judicial review. Well, with today's courts Hoyt Dec 2017 #34

Pence will pardon him just like Ford pardoned Nixon. redstatebluegirl Dec 2017 #35

Probably and if so that is whats wrong with our system bluestarone Dec 2017 #37

No. elleng Dec 2017 #36

SCOTUS would have to rule on it. tammywammy Dec 2017 #38

Sure why not , whatever the oligarchs want Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #41