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Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
23. Rural voters, that is, voters in less populated states, pick the president.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:29 PM
Dec 2017

It is a statistical fact.

California has a huge population, but only two senators.

Since the electoral college includes one elector for every representative and senator a state has, and since California (same for other populated states with large, urban areas) is short-changed on senators compared to rural, less populated states, . . .

Californians, as individual voters, have far less say in electing the president than do voters in rural states.

Voters in rural, less populated states also have better representation in the Senate. Two senators per state. In California, that means two senators for an estimated 39,250,017 people while in Iowa, that means two senators for an estimated 3,134,693.

The unfairness in our country is toward people living in urban, heavily populated areas when it comes to both the Senate and presidential elections.

Rural Americans have so many advantages and complain so much. Clean air, less crowding. Oh, my God. I lived in rural America as a child. People who can make a living even if it is not a great one in rural America are so lucky. It's wonderful to live there. The quality of life when it comes to things that really matter is far, far better in rural America than in urban America.

And, remember, many of us who live in urban America, in big cities and use all those big words, are the children or grandchildren of the younger brothers and sisters of people in rural America.

Generally, only one of a farmer's children gets to inherit the land, the farm. The other children have to make it in the city. The reality of farming is that one kid, usually a son, inherits the farm. The brothers and sisters have to settle for an education or jobs in towns and cities.

The reality is that rural America IS privileged America.

The numbers don't lie on this issue. Housing is cheaper in rural America. Food is plentiful and fresh in rural America. The air is clean. It is quieter. It is healthier if you choose to live a healthy life.

Farming is hard work. But so is working in a warehouse or teaching school in the inner city or just about any other job people do in the city. And when you farm, you own something that you can sell for real money -- land. A lot of people who live in cities rent their housing and own the shirts on their backs and have nothing to sell or leave to their children.

Rural America should stop whining. They have it good. They are better represented in our government than are urban Americans. Again, stop whining, rural America.

Is this another 'we need to reach out to the angry trump voter' lectures Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #1
I would have no problem reaching out but they don't want to reach out to us, they don't Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #3
Not really. The rural poor have logical reasons to vote for us. moriah Dec 2017 #12
Rural areas need liberal radio and better internet services. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #21
The best way to put it is "a little bit is better than nothing." Willie Pep Dec 2017 #32
I did not get that from what the Senator wrote. Blue_true Dec 2017 #14
I heard john fugelsang say the same thing he said Democrats always use big words Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #18
Exactly Butterflylady Dec 2017 #26
Are you saying that Democratic voters are better educated than Republican ones? Sophia4 Dec 2017 #22
What I am saying is that you have to use language that people understand. Blue_true Dec 2017 #24
I'm retired. I pretty much wrote for a living (not by my choice). Sophia4 Dec 2017 #27
Colbert comment on Trump's erudition NobodyInParticular Dec 2017 #31
I have two published novels, I have written hundreds of engineering reports. Blue_true Dec 2017 #35
Communication is a two-way street. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #36
Trump is a moron. Blue_true Dec 2017 #40
In my experience, it is best to personally meet and talk voters like the waitress you describe Sophia4 Dec 2017 #41
Let me try again, I was snappy on the last response. Blue_true Dec 2017 #38
Clarity is the key. Defining words that may be misunderstood by the audience Sophia4 Dec 2017 #39
I hate the elitism 'brand'...it's so not true...most of us are working slobs. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #2
And who is this guy kidding the Republicans are the most elitist group in the bunch and these rural Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #5
Don't care about Jspur Dec 2017 #4
Look around...it's already happening... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #6
What a waste of time... tenderfoot Dec 2017 #7
To Hell with that. And to Hell with them. Aristus Dec 2017 #8
Democrats have always given rural voters reasons to vote blue. Rural voters simply rejected them. LonePirate Dec 2017 #9
Got it in one gratuitous Dec 2017 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author moriah Dec 2017 #10
more assistance for people who hate it when other people get assistance lol. coal subsidy, farm msongs Dec 2017 #11
I think rural voters are butt-hurt because reality does not live up to the nationalist hype. DetlefK Dec 2017 #13
Rural voters, that is, voters in less populated states, pick the president. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #23
If I find that haystack needle reasonable rural conservative out there, then fine. HughBeaumont Dec 2017 #15
If one were to read Charles Pierce's eyewitness account of Moore's election eve rally one would Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #20
"Rural voters are our base." Garrett78 Dec 2017 #17
We've been giving these rural voters GREAT reasons to trust & support Dems.They don't want to listen kydo Dec 2017 #19
What do Repugs do to "Give rural voters a reason to trust and support the party"? SharonClark Dec 2017 #25
They hate the same people NT Adrahil Dec 2017 #37
Question NCDem777 Dec 2017 #28
You can talk all you want . . . hatrack Dec 2017 #29
Great stuff, thanks for posting! MiltonBrown Dec 2017 #30
I have relatives who live in rural Louisiana and they are hardcore liberal Democrats. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #34
They already have that treestar Dec 2017 #33
I've got no problem giving them a reason to vote Dem Bradical79 Dec 2017 #42
Link for full article w/ background, added information and worth reading. appalachiablue Dec 2017 #43
Rurals will react to a bullshitter white male who partially deflects their fear Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #44
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