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Is It Time To Leave America? [View all] Yavin4 Jul 2012 OP
My wife wants us to leave. We have an offer. I am waiting to see what happens in November. CBGLuthier Jul 2012 #1
And go where? Marrah_G Jul 2012 #2
To A More Civilized, Advanced Nation Yavin4 Jul 2012 #7
Good luck to you Marrah_G Jul 2012 #13
Columbia???? greytdemocrat Jul 2012 #14
I think he said Colombia, which is a country. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #108
Linky BeHereNow Jul 2012 #16
You might have to search hard to find a non-texting place. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #110
Rate of intentional homicide is Colombia is 33 per 100,000. US is 4.8 Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #23
There are problems with this. caseymoz Jul 2012 #105
All true. KurtNYC Jul 2012 #118
Thanks to both of you for pointing this out. randome Jul 2012 #120
I turned off the evening news 5 years ago KurtNYC Jul 2012 #121
Wow. Well said. randome Jul 2012 #122
Consider New Zealand if you get the chance Taverner Jul 2012 #158
Alrighty then. Brickbat Jul 2012 #3
So, how much do you owe? Robb Jul 2012 #4
Personally. I Have Zero Debts. Yavin4 Jul 2012 #5
France graham4anything Jul 2012 #6
Past Generations Did Have It Worse, But We're Regressing Back Into Their Time Yavin4 Jul 2012 #10
we have to believe we will too graham4anything Jul 2012 #17
Some nations have a base that allows them to advance. siligut Jul 2012 #126
We have let ourselves be cowed by those loud mouths. randome Jul 2012 #127
You're dreaming Doctor_J Jul 2012 #39
"I know some of you will call me a coward " johnnie Jul 2012 #8
? Hissyspit Jul 2012 #77
Adios ! I wish you well. virgogal Jul 2012 #9
I am retired and would love to move to Great Britain, RebelOne Jul 2012 #11
That's the problem with all of Europe Warpy Jul 2012 #27
Food is cheaper in Germany than in the US. tabasco Jul 2012 #49
I'd love to move to Germany spinbaby Jul 2012 #53
It weighs more too! deaniac21 Jul 2012 #170
We went to Ojai yesterday to see the beautiful Julie Christensen in an intimate theater- BeHereNow Jul 2012 #12
How are Real Estate prices or rentals in Ojai? flamingdem Jul 2012 #15
They fluctuate wildly...I saw listings for trailers for $64K and homes for millions. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #19
It sounds a bit like Topanga but further from LA flamingdem Jul 2012 #24
Beatrice Wood- her studio is still there, right as you hit town off the 150. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #28
What we need is a community on DU Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #34
+1 There has been talk of this in the past on DU- creating a DU community in RL. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #36
I have found websites like that but flamingdem Jul 2012 #38
..SE Asia n/t We are Devo Jul 2012 #96
As someone who 'bought' Panama, it seems to me that a lot of the ex-pats-- mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #100
+1 - I agree! That's a great idea! BTW... I've already left... 6502 Jul 2012 #80
Wow your experience is very interesting fujiyama Jul 2012 #150
Where are you? General location... BeHereNow Jul 2012 #31
I'm on the Westside of Lalaland flamingdem Jul 2012 #37
From the westside, it is probably best to take the 101 to the 33, but ONLY BeHereNow Jul 2012 #41
Sounds inspiring. I spent time in flamingdem Jul 2012 #47
Topanga Boy here! whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #116
I daydream about leaving every day. Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #18
You can come stay with me, if it ever gets too bad. I only have one spare room though. Evoman Jul 2012 #153
Thank you! :) Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #155
The bunny and cats can stay in my room! Evoman Jul 2012 #156
Hide your wires... Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #159
Where will you go? Nt TomClash Jul 2012 #20
Heck yeah. Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #21
I love Canada riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #22
+1 This country has become vicious. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #26
My sister has lived in Nova Scotia for 30 years and invited us to move there graywarrior Jul 2012 #42
Nova Scotia is sooooo beautiful riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #71
Yes, it is! I've spend several months there visiting her and I love the fishing towns graywarrior Jul 2012 #94
I have been thinking about nova scotia also adigal Jul 2012 #152
back in the late 1800's shanti Jul 2012 #62
So does Sid Dithers Efilroft Sul Jul 2012 #79
I want to leave too. This country is done. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #25
Which countries have you visited and which did you like the best? Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #29
People from both parties say this when things aren't going their way 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #30
There are a few places.... sendero Jul 2012 #32
Instead of leaving Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #33
they won't let us go grasswire Jul 2012 #56
They only want to trample us into the dust, not have civilized discourse. Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #124
Have you watched the latest Bill Moyers with Chris Hedges? You'll LOVE it. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #136
The answer to how to fight it can be found in a song. Curmudgeoness Jul 2012 #35
I already did. Blue_In_AK Jul 2012 #40
Before you decide to do something like that make sure you want to do that. I have southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #43
yes. whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #44
In the infamous words of Curly Bill Brocius FrodosPet Jul 2012 #45
Bwahahahah! Brilliant post FrodosPet! BeHereNow Jul 2012 #48
HA! zappaman Jul 2012 #93
I have a couple of different escape plans ....... oldhippie Jul 2012 #46
What a bunch of malarky. randome Jul 2012 #50
What you fail to recognize is this: BeHereNow Jul 2012 #51
Giving up to roaches is not admirable. randome Jul 2012 #59
You need to study the masters, and the prophets... here is one: BeHereNow Jul 2012 #63
Like I said: Reality. Not a music video. randome Jul 2012 #68
I am one who has already left... 6502 Jul 2012 #81
Do what you need to do. randome Jul 2012 #84
Lol! whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #54
I agree 100%. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #58
The Internet has changed the game in a lot of ways. randome Jul 2012 #61
Positive trends? Doctor_J Jul 2012 #65
Yep. Lots of positive trends. The world is getting more peaceful, for one. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #72
just keep telling yourself that Doctor_J Jul 2012 #64
+1,000,000 BeHereNow Jul 2012 #66
I said a re-election will begin to turn things around. randome Jul 2012 #69
People don't live for thousands of years. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #74
+1 well said. 6502 Jul 2012 #82
It does not seem like America is 'rapidly decaying' to me. randome Jul 2012 #85
Brilliant analysis Doctor_J Jul 2012 #106
I honestly don't think the tea baggers will be around for much longer. randome Jul 2012 #109
+1,000,000! nt MADem Jul 2012 #160
We tried to emigrate to Canada... Bigmack Jul 2012 #52
A lot of people find that out FrodosPet Jul 2012 #146
We have enough assets so that we have a lot more than pocket money... Bigmack Jul 2012 #149
I have had the emigration bug at many moments in this past year... Anansi1171 Jul 2012 #55
welcome to DU, and thanks for the post grasswire Jul 2012 #57
welcome and thanks for your post (nt) Tumbulu Jul 2012 #67
+1 ... question: where in the US can we go? 6502 Jul 2012 #83
You could resettle Detroit. Seriously. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2012 #119
You are correct- there is a small but determined sustainable living community growing there... BeHereNow Jul 2012 #141
I would LOVE to see "The City" grow and prosper once again FrodosPet Jul 2012 #147
Emigrate to California, Oregon and Washington for starters... Anansi1171 Jul 2012 #130
Who would take American refugees? LOL n/t Mimosa Jul 2012 #60
We made serious plans to give ourselves an escape hatch in 2005 and chose Panama. mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #70
Admit it, you still care. You didn't spell it "Amercia". nt DCKit Jul 2012 #73
With 13 generations here, no I'm not going. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2012 #75
My family was in 1632. xmas74 Jul 2012 #128
Same here retrogal Jul 2012 #168
Finland tempts me Scootaloo Jul 2012 #76
Yes it is way past time. eliminerlesud Jul 2012 #78
Spot on and WELCOME- here is a great interview with Chris Hedges on Bill Moyers for you! BeHereNow Jul 2012 #139
"forgotten corners of this country". You think these corners don't exist in every country? randome Jul 2012 #140
How rude! Stomping into the middle of my welcome to a new DU member? BeHereNow Jul 2012 #142
No, I won't stop posting information I think is relevant. randome Jul 2012 #143
You are dancing on the line of stalking friend- better go read the TOS and CS again. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #144
We are leaving. Puglover Jul 2012 #86
Cuenca? n/t We are Devo Jul 2012 #101
Nope Puglover Jul 2012 #115
Moving to another country is not easy IndyPragmatist123 Jul 2012 #87
My grandson is bi-lingual and I'm hopeful that he can go to Europe and use his fluent Italian CTyankee Jul 2012 #88
We're going to take a different route. DH's grandparents came here from Italy. Doremus Jul 2012 #131
You're competing with the entire EU and a massive chunk of of Israel, as well, for a job in France. MADem Jul 2012 #161
Please do. slackmaster Jul 2012 #89
Succinct! randome Jul 2012 #90
Careful. woo me with science Jul 2012 #91
8% - I don't think so Caretha Jul 2012 #92
Plenty of people are surviving. Some are even thriving. randome Jul 2012 #95
Think what you want Caretha Jul 2012 #107
Right. randome Jul 2012 #111
+10000 woo me with science Jul 2012 #97
+1 n/t warrprayer Jul 2012 #129
I wish I could. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #98
There's no place in the world free from transnational corporations, Trillo Jul 2012 #99
I left in 2006. n/t mattclearing Jul 2012 #102
Where did you go? Are you working or retired? mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #103
I moved to Australia. mattclearing Jul 2012 #104
The Australian Military is hiring--Americans. They've got to have experience, though. MADem Jul 2012 #162
I have a great job, thanks. mattclearing Jul 2012 #166
No, I think you misunderstand. Unless you've got VERY recent military experience, MADem Jul 2012 #169
That's food for thought... Snoozin Jul 2012 #112
yes...coward...milquetoast...please leave n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2012 #113
Strange to see the "love it or leave it" crowd here! Loge23 Jul 2012 #114
I agree with you that times have changed. randome Jul 2012 #117
In the middle of likely 8-year Obama presidency?! Zax2me Jul 2012 #123
You have states within this country with the lowest unemployment rates Life Long Dem Jul 2012 #125
Which re-revised revision of the formerly revised formula? Doremus Jul 2012 #132
England is looking more and more inviting DainBramaged Jul 2012 #133
The steering wheel will be on the "wrong" side and you'll go through hell getting MADem Jul 2012 #163
One generation (great-grandparens) removed from being granted Irish citizenship HockeyMom Jul 2012 #134
Wherever you go .... piperpibroch Jul 2012 #135
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #137
Not for me. I like it here. My life is here. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #138
try China or India...no oligarchies or corporate control there tjwash Jul 2012 #145
Why doesn't anyone mention Venezuela? FrodosPet Jul 2012 #148
Also a higher murder rate. randome Jul 2012 #154
All the Venezuelans I know live in Puerto Rico! nt MADem Jul 2012 #164
No, you should at least wait until daylight jberryhill Jul 2012 #151
Expats are as patriotic as any other Americans Taverner Jul 2012 #157
I lived half my life outside of USA, and I think this country is one of the best places in the world MADem Jul 2012 #165
There are several flights leaving every hour. MineralMan Jul 2012 #167
Very happy with the good old US of A NCTraveler Jul 2012 #171
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