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pipoman

(16,038 posts)
7. You do know
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:09 AM
Jul 2012

that there are volumes of documents which provide the debate which lead to each Amendment in the BoR, no? Denial that keeping a tyrannical government from arising is contrary to history.

AR15 rifles are the most commonly sold rifle platform in the US today. The mechanism is over 100 years old and is unquestionably used by all but a tiny fraction of a single percentage point for lawful purposes.

You think tracking all purchases is realistic, eh? You haven't a clue how many people shoot recreationally then.

You are right, "intervene with these mental health problems before they commit another tragedy", in most states a person will not be involuntarily committed without first committing a crime. This is a huge mistake which could actually be remedied without violating anyone's civil liberties.

As it is right now, we have the 'National Instant Check System" (NICS). When a person purchases a gun from a licensed firearms dealer, the person must pass an NICS check. If a person is denied, and this happens every day, it is usually the result of the person not answering the questions on the NICS form honestly, which is a crime. It also means that a person who is legally ineligible to own firearms is actively trying to acquire a firearm. The FBI and ATF now know that this ineligible person is trying to buy a gun. They have their name, address, phone number and yet less than 1% of NICS denials are even investigated. And you want ALL purchases to be investigated? Nonsense impossibility. I simply want a realistic, constitutional approach to reduce the chances of these things happening.

This has to do with access to mental health services pipoman Jul 2012 #1
"The US Olympic shooting team expends thousands of rounds per month"... kentuck Jul 2012 #2
You do know pipoman Jul 2012 #7
You could not be more wrong MattBaggins Jul 2012 #18
Due process through complaint pipoman Jul 2012 #25
You asked for incaeration without due process in your first statement MattBaggins Jul 2012 #29
A family member or other interested person pipoman Jul 2012 #33
In Florida we have the 'Baker Act'. Edweird Jul 2012 #35
Speaking of the US Olympic shooting team, I am always amazed at how poorly our team does LonePirate Jul 2012 #11
The "availability of mental health services" diversion has been quite overused here recently. geckosfeet Jul 2012 #6
In nearly every single one of these cases pipoman Jul 2012 #9
Good MattBaggins Jul 2012 #19
Then no whailing pipoman Jul 2012 #23
non sequitor? eh? MattBaggins Jul 2012 #28
Don't they shoot 22 long rifle amo, thru safeinOhio Jul 2012 #8
Millions shoot AR15 rifles competitively pipoman Jul 2012 #10
You posted a picture of safeinOhio Jul 2012 #17
No time now, but I believe the number pipoman Jul 2012 #22
No, it doesn't quaker bill Jul 2012 #12
Seems I remember pipoman Jul 2012 #15
Would you use police power to compel them into therapy, prior to a criminal act? quaker bill Jul 2012 #30
If you could not compel them into therapy...? kentuck Jul 2012 #32
I do not think so quaker bill Jul 2012 #34
access to guns v access to mental health services napkinz Jul 2012 #20
Exactly pipoman Jul 2012 #21
It's become part of our national character xchrom Jul 2012 #3
Not the least of those... kentuck Jul 2012 #4
oh absolutely. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #5
If the extremist RW gun worshipers really supported the 2nd Amendment baldguy Jul 2012 #13
It was intended to protect security at all levels slackmaster Jul 2012 #14
IMO, the second amendment was created to protect some State governments Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #16
Yeah.. I've been wondering why Colorado? ananda Jul 2012 #24
The larger concern was the "security of a free State" regardless of who the oppressor was. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #26
Not so. We ARE letting tragedies happen. ananda Jul 2012 #27
Your thesis is incorrect cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #31
At least one person here knows what the 2nd Amendment is about 1-Old-Man Jul 2012 #36
You might feel that in today's world the 2nd Amendment is silly and will be useless to protect ... spin Jul 2012 #37
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