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GaryCnf

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74. As you note

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:45 PM

Dec 2017

White women, even when including white women with college degrees, voted for the most reprehensible example of male arrogance/control in history.

While adding black women (who voted overwhelmingly for Clinton) to that total changes the overall percentage of women who voted for Clinton, the relatively small gender gap between black women and black men (who also voted overwhelmingly for Clinton) indicates that black women's votes were based upon racially-derived interests as opposed to gender-derived interests.

Do you disagree? I ask because we are using the same numbers.

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The most well written and fully fleshed out article on the Franken mess. [View all] blimablam Dec 2017 OP

Thank you SHRED Dec 2017 #1

K&R! Mme. Defarge Dec 2017 #2

you said...flesh. nt msongs Dec 2017 #3

Yep. jalan48 Dec 2017 #4

that's how I see it. KT2000 Dec 2017 #5

It is my (probably in vain) hope DFW Dec 2017 #6

Let's hope so! MiltonBrown Dec 2017 #7

Yes! I'd be good with that. mountain grammy Dec 2017 #13

That seems unlikely. He has essentially been kicked out of the Senate club by his fellow members. mn9driver Dec 2017 #29

Nothing to find out DFW Dec 2017 #80

I agree with you! Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #76

I want Senators to explain themselves onit2day Dec 2017 #83

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #8

Thank you. XRubicon Dec 2017 #9

FACTs. Where are all the "but they were credible" Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #10

I think a fellow member confirmed at least part of this conclusion GaryCnf Dec 2017 #11

+1 PDittie Dec 2017 #12

+1!!!! KPN Dec 2017 #33

Not so fast..If women aren't "politically united by their gender" if they're not whathehell Dec 2017 #53

What I "make of it" GaryCnf Dec 2017 #57

Yes. but only if you don't find my "wording" too questionable, lol whathehell Dec 2017 #62

It has ZERO to do with your wording GaryCnf Dec 2017 #66

where are you getting your statistics? NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #70

As you note GaryCnf Dec 2017 #74

Is that why you put "make of" in quotes, lol? whathehell Dec 2017 #89

Those are extremely fair points GaryCnf Dec 2017 #92

Thank you, Gary.. whathehell Dec 2017 #93

When I read your post GaryCnf Dec 2017 #94

Can I just say.. whathehell Dec 2017 #95

+1000 happy feet Dec 2017 #59

Well written. byronius Dec 2017 #14

This is an article by a right-wing talk show host oberliner Dec 2017 #15

Does that embarrass you? OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #17

It's sad that DUers are posting crap from right-wing lunatics and folks are responding favorably oberliner Dec 2017 #19

Ziegler Is Not the Reichwing Lunatic Leith Dec 2017 #25

He is absolutely a right-wing lunatic who believes Jerry Sandusky is innocent oberliner Dec 2017 #35

Frankens accuser believes Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Nevernose Dec 2017 #38

I would hope no one would post an op-ed by her either oberliner Dec 2017 #40

Franken's accusers apparently have no problems with Moore or Trump. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #42

You'd also hope they wouldn't believe her railroading schemes and help take down a Dem Senator. kcr Dec 2017 #46

Well... califootman Dec 2017 #27

He is a crazy right-wing nut job oberliner Dec 2017 #36

Why? blimablam Dec 2017 #47

It rings true - that's what is disturbing WyLoochka Dec 2017 #50

Try to make the distinction between message and messenger. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #63

Um, does it embarrass You? whathehell Dec 2017 #55

No. OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #65

I'd say the same whathehell Dec 2017 #90

Yeah SHRED Dec 2017 #51

Buncha shite is what. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #68

It was her profession you can't ignore it any more than you can ignore that Franken was a comedian blimablam Dec 2017 #84

This Was a Hit Job From the Beginning dlk Dec 2017 #16

It might say what you want to hear but it's certainly not well-written. Towlie Dec 2017 #18

It is written by a right-wing hack talk show host oberliner Dec 2017 #20

Read that definition again, please. Then explain to me how an article can be a Gish Gallop. kcr Dec 2017 #45

Yes, many here seem eager to jump on the "Women don't Matter" meme whathehell Dec 2017 #56

Best article I've read on the matter. EXCELLENT! Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #21

This article is by a person who believes Clinton is responsible for 9/11 oberliner Dec 2017 #22

At least one of Franken's accusers is a birther and a Republican, Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #39

Yes. Franken was railroaded and stabbed in the back by his supposed colleagues. mn9driver Dec 2017 #23

It has backfired in every election GaryCnf Dec 2017 #34

Another excellent column by the same author on the same subject RandomAccess Dec 2017 #24

Long-time reader, first member post:YES! philly lib Dec 2017 #26

welcome aboard orleans Dec 2017 #37

Welcome to DU!! I hope you will post with us some more. (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #44

Marking underpants Dec 2017 #28

Excellent Summation - Thanks! Jimbo101 Dec 2017 #30

excellent article. +1. nm mr_liberal Dec 2017 #31

This is written by John Ziegler - has everyone gone insane?! oberliner Dec 2017 #32

We can judge Ziegler by what he's written on this subject. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #41

Thanks for pointing out that Ziegler is a RW whack job,.. Jimbo101 Dec 2017 #43

I've been reading your crap on this subject for two weeks. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #49

Many are angry about Franken & eager to grab onto the "Women don't matter" whathehell Dec 2017 #54

it's the bazooka joe theorem keroro gunsou Dec 2017 #60

Franken is being defended by many people from all spectrums of the political world blimablam Dec 2017 #48

John Ziegler is not a voice of reason - he is an apologist for child molesters oberliner Dec 2017 #58

Again point out exactly what is wrong with his argument? blimablam Dec 2017 #61

Personally I dont listen to people who defend child molesters. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #69

Leeann Tweeden is the Right Wing Radio Host who is a Birther and friends with Don JR JI7 Dec 2017 #52

Excellent commentary. Thank you for posting. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #64

Sorry didnt read past nude model ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #67

You should blimablam Dec 2017 #72

No I shouldnt ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #78

Your loss. It's was her profession just like Franken a was a comedian blimablam Dec 2017 #81

Sigh. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #87

It was a right wing republican takedown, aided and abetted by a democratic kangaroo court workinclasszero Dec 2017 #71

Nice post LostinRed Dec 2017 #73

Agree, though some of his comments on Tweeden seem spooky3 Dec 2017 #75

Al's a liberal. That makes him a bad guy, even to some that are supposed to be on our side. n/t brewens Dec 2017 #77

" I am more suspect"? nt marybourg Dec 2017 #79

"Nevertheless, today I am announcing that, in the coming weeks, Faux pas Dec 2017 #82

Excellent summary article. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #85

Good article cp Dec 2017 #86

Al, please don't go. Henry1 Dec 2017 #88

k and r niyad Dec 2017 #91