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K&R NCTraveler Dec 2017 #1
How does the "moral high ground" include convicting a person without due process? MoonRiver Dec 2017 #2
Who has been convicted? NCTraveler Dec 2017 #4
Franken deserves his case to be reviewed by the ethics committee. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #6
Seems like the most reasonable way to take the charges seriously AND... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #45
Sen. Frankens Job Includes Rights... BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #102
What you said. Amaryllis Dec 2017 #108
That is HIS decision to make -- no one can force him to resign without due process karynnj Dec 2017 #103
He is not being convicted in a court room Perseus Dec 2017 #56
The people are anonymous to us. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #63
Prove it. You are willing to subvert the votes of the people of Minnesota based on some reporters? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #89
Do I have to teach a fucking class on how journalism works? Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #91
Welcome to 2017, oldtimer. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #95
Gramps? Im 37. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #97
You talk like you are out of the 1940s. If you are 37, you are deluded, or have an agenda. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #98
Does Moore deserve due process HopeAgain Dec 2017 #11
Yes MoonRiver Dec 2017 #23
Okay, then you are consistent HopeAgain Dec 2017 #28
Why? hadEnuf Dec 2017 #33
I like to think we live by the rule of law, and not mob mentality. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #38
Mob mentality is judging a 9 year senator with a proven track record by the same standards used for hadEnuf Dec 2017 #75
Well, I totally agree, and don't know why you responded to me with that post. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #90
Moore is running for an election - the voters become a jury. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #93
That's beween Moore and The GOP. rainlillie Dec 2017 #43
OF COURSE !! Why is this a question ?! The issue is he's already lied twice and admitted to asking.. uponit7771 Dec 2017 #46
I think Republicans should reject him Saviolo Dec 2017 #62
McConnell has said if he gets elected he will face an ethics investigation. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #92
I will also listen to the argument that the allegations are credible Jarqui Dec 2017 #3
.... DemKittyNC Dec 2017 #5
That is nonsense...an unproven allegation made about a very effective senator...and Hannity and Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #7
Groping women HopeAgain Dec 2017 #14
Unproven allegations...I have a problem with ruining someone's career over Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #17
I agree that we can question the sllegations HopeAgain Dec 2017 #22
but it is...and it is up the people involved to handle it. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #26
Great points, it's as if some people have forgotten how lowdown rainlillie Dec 2017 #44
It is bullshit. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47
Ill make that argument... TCJ70 Dec 2017 #8
+100,000 oasis Dec 2017 #9
agree n/t n2doc Dec 2017 #32
Agree 100% Va Lefty Dec 2017 #42
Also, this only serves to trivialize abuse and Mme. Defarge Dec 2017 #52
There has to be more here. The Senate is a club. Franken must not have made friends with the club. FarCenter Dec 2017 #10
Nope...the Senate Democratic leaders are making a huge mistake for purity...I have Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #18
Politicians? Purity? No, they must despise Franken for other reasons. Maybe his ex-comedian persona. FarCenter Dec 2017 #41
I wouldn't be surprised if they dislike him also because Rabrrrrrr Dec 2017 #104
Which allegations are not credible. Jim__ Dec 2017 #12
From Tweedens My Space page all those years ago. She didn't have a problem POSTING this... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #16
What about due process? YessirAtsaFact Dec 2017 #13
He is entitled to it HopeAgain Dec 2017 #15
No we are not...there is no due process one can attain for Moore...and the voters will decide. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #21
When did Moore ask for due process, and when spooky3 Dec 2017 #25
Exactly. (I'm being most redundant this morning.) Duppers Dec 2017 #29
Franken can get due process HopeAgain Dec 2017 #34
So youre not able to answer my question. spooky3 Dec 2017 #35
Precisely! Franken is the ONLY one who has asked luvtheGWN Dec 2017 #39
EXACTLY!! Duppers Dec 2017 #27
Yes, he suggested an investigation, why not let him have it? whathehell Dec 2017 #37
K&R. NT Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #19
Do you really want more reasons? ollie10 Dec 2017 #20
Reason 8 chills me to the bone. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #24
I would put all your arguments except 7 HopeAgain Dec 2017 #31
I support a Senate investigation ollie10 Dec 2017 #36
Well said. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #50
Due Process is the moral high ground delisen Dec 2017 #30
How about another argument? rainin Dec 2017 #40
We're not in a backlash because moral high ground isn't right. Our problem is to make sure it WINS. ancianita Dec 2017 #48
There we go again! Comparing Moore to Franken. R B Garr Dec 2017 #49
I am comparing arguments, not people HopeAgain Dec 2017 #73
Any way you look at it, the arguments are not R B Garr Dec 2017 #82
So the only time Franken should resign is if he committed HopeAgain Dec 2017 #99
Well, I just saw Corey Lewandowski on MSNBC say that Franken was R B Garr Dec 2017 #100
Without an Ethics Committee investigation SHRED Dec 2017 #51
Exactly. In a decent political world, taking the high road would pressure Republicans to do the same mn9driver Dec 2017 #57
I don't think it is hypocritical to talk about the degree of offense. femmedem Dec 2017 #53
The allegations should be investigated IronLionZion Dec 2017 #54
Whatever happened to the idea that the Ethics Committee would look at it? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #55
Yeah. Orsino Dec 2017 #58
Completely disagree Moral Compass Dec 2017 #59
So how do you disagree with me? HopeAgain Dec 2017 #64
Nice black and white view you got there rock Dec 2017 #60
your position would be correct if the situations were equivalent, but they are not fishwax Dec 2017 #61
I didn't say they were equivalent HopeAgain Dec 2017 #67
you said "everything (other than the charges aren't credible) is hypocrisy" fishwax Dec 2017 #94
Maybe I do assume that groping women without their HopeAgain Dec 2017 #96
I hear what you're saying, so I'm sure you'll agree that the calls for Franken to resign PatrickforO Dec 2017 #65
NO, I don't agree with the calls to resign HopeAgain Dec 2017 #71
Too bad Franken's apology added cred to the allegations, huh? Joe941 Dec 2017 #66
I disagree Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #68
No, we can't agree that the allegations are credible dansolo Dec 2017 #87
We've been speeding the degradation of politics along for a long time. KPN Dec 2017 #69
Not true. FIRST is..claimants must NOT be anonymous, & claims can be seen & heard by public. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #70
An anonymous allegation is not credible HopeAgain Dec 2017 #72
Exactly. "Anonymous" doesn't warrant serious consideration. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #77
You have that right...and the right to be wrong Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #74
EXACTLY why this is so frustrating Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #76
Perfect argument and you did not have to cede any moral position HopeAgain Dec 2017 #78
If one denies the difference of degrees and applies the hobgoblin of little minds LanternWaste Dec 2017 #79
Zero tolerance is zero common sense (from another post). nt LAS14 Dec 2017 #80
Zero tolerance is zero common sense (from another post). nt LAS14 Dec 2017 #80
At this point I agree... sagesnow Dec 2017 #83
Franken should resign as soon as Moore and Trump do, not before... TalenaGor Dec 2017 #84
It should not be dependent on Moore and Trump... califootman Dec 2017 #106
The allegations are not credible wryter2000 Dec 2017 #85
If we don't adhere to our principles when it hurts, then what are we? Blue_true Dec 2017 #86
Franken 110liberal Dec 2017 #88
Due process. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #101
They're railroading Franken for the same reason that nothing got done during Obama's first year Rabrrrrrr Dec 2017 #105
No there is at least one other strong argument. Anyone should have the right pnwmom Dec 2017 #107
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