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JeepJK556

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112. So you hate facts being introduced into an argument.

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:10 PM

Jul 2012

Ban guns that are no different than any other gun based off of misinformation.

Ban "cop killer" bullets even though they are no such thing.

Make laws and form arguments based on complete and total ignorance.

That is what you support, right? Sure seems that way.

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I just heard the story of one of the victims [View all] lunatica Jul 2012 OP

Assault Weapons are a myth. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #1

large magazines are not a myth though Schema Thing Jul 2012 #3

True. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #5

This thread is about a six year old child, not a forum for selling NRA propaganda lunatica Jul 2012 #6

I don't want to sell anything. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #8

+1 flamingdem Jul 2012 #39

You opened the door with the Brady Bunch talking point. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #60

Please explain ~ which part of what he/she said is "the Brady Bunch talking point"?? KarenS Jul 2012 #70

She wrote: "I'm not for banning guns, but I AM for banning fucking assault weapons!" aikoaiko Jul 2012 #76

Another warm hearted gun apologist lunatica Jul 2012 #108

I'm upset with this tragedy too. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #117

that someone has been lunatica Jul 2012 #143

What were you right on the money about? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #144

All the NRA types think and care about liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #81

The child is dead. The mother is the paraplegic. RC Jul 2012 #88

I corrected that lunatica Jul 2012 #109

You were the one who brought up gun, not the other poster Travis_0004 Jul 2012 #139

This thread started out as one about a six year old 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #161

So that's when it became of interest to you right? lunatica Jul 2012 #162

I clicked on it because of the title 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #164

And that's what caught your attention enough to respond lunatica Jul 2012 #166

You used a story about the victim 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #167

Thank you! It makes me sick when a tragedy like this happens and all the pro-gun smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #172

First of all, 30 rounds is ridiculously large. Schema Thing Jul 2012 #12

yes! a few seconds to interfere sdfernando Jul 2012 #25

30 rounds is not "ridiculously large". bluedigger Jul 2012 #43

ANY number of rounds is ridiculously large. ananda Jul 2012 #46

no, you couldn't be more wrong if you were a republican douchebag Schema Thing Jul 2012 #49

Good grief, 30 round magazines are standard capacity for the AR-15. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #63

So ban AR-15s. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #83

Do you honestly think there's the slightest chance of that happening in the foreseeable future? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #87

No. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #89

So you're just venting when you speak of banning guns. I respect you for acknowledging it. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #90

I've never said ban all guns. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #99

And, as you have acknowledged, such bans and checks aren't going to happen for decades at least. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #132

Yes, good! UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #147

Are there people here that are hired by the NRA to go out on movonne Jul 2012 #129

Beats me, I'm not a member. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #134

Short answer bongbong Jul 2012 #169

Yup. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #106

Nice logic. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #145

I wouldn't know about that. bluedigger Jul 2012 #96

Thankfully illegal in my state Marrah_G Jul 2012 #75

Husband is a hunter. According to Fish & Game rules, tsuki Jul 2012 #67

Deadliness exaggerated. undeterred Jul 2012 #23

STTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP! malaise Jul 2012 #33

malaise, don't you see? This is a forum to talk about ammo and guns and capacity and rapidity. CTyankee Jul 2012 #73

I simply cannot believe it malaise Jul 2012 #86

Adding this thread malaise Jul 2012 #94

Of course it makes a difference!!!! citizen blues Jul 2012 #59

No. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #107

Jared Loughner was tackled while changing a mag and the carnage stopped. n/t savalez Jul 2012 #159

If it's a myth why would anyone oppose a ban? lunatica Jul 2012 #4

It's a class of weapons created from thin air. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #7

Is the NRA paying you to post here? lunatica Jul 2012 #9

Sorry you feel that way. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #13

The poster is giving you facts which have nothing to do with the NRA nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #14

This thread is about a six year old child, not a forum for selling NRA propaganda lunatica Jul 2012 #15

The OP added guns into the post so brought the subject up first I believe. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #44

Exactly right. It's rather odd for someone to complain when a point in their *own* OP is addressed! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #62

Facts are sure pesky things, aren't they? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #17

This thread is about a six year old child, not a forum for selling NRA propaganda lunatica Jul 2012 #26

Here's another pesky fact: it was your OP that brought up the subject of banning Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #28

So did you miss the part about Ashley and just skipped to defending assault weapons? lunatica Jul 2012 #31

You brought up the subject of banning assault weapons, not me. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #36

Still ignoring the dead child I see. lunatica Jul 2012 #58

The child in question isn't the subject I was addressing. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #110

Relax the gun huggers and strokers on DU MattBaggins Jul 2012 #103

If you want to regulate something, you have to KNOW something about that which eridani Jul 2012 #79

I wasn't the one using the term "Brady Bunch" lunatica Jul 2012 #149

Why are you posting gun porn in this thread?? Please, stop. n/t KarenS Jul 2012 #78

So ban semi-automatic weapons and clips that UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #85

tell your NRA talking point to Ashley CreekDog Jul 2012 #11

I'm sorry. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #16

Ok I will make it clear as day for you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #21

Why? JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #24

You want to go hunting? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #32

I dont hunt JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #40

You of course realize nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #42

So what type of gun control do you think would help avert tragedies like this one? wildeyed Jul 2012 #57

Not a flower, but that is a nice talking point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #66

Could you be any more insensitive. Not a damned word or concern for the victims... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #128

but THAT is how NRA propganda works Skittles Jul 2012 #135

please PLEASE stop pimping for the NRA Skittles Jul 2012 #133

The dead don't care about the trivial technical minutiae of firearms design. baldguy Jul 2012 #146

Assault Weapons are a myth Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #155

I so very much agree with you. spartan61 Jul 2012 #2

I agree, even though it is an unpopular view. Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #10

They're catapulting the propaganda now lunatica Jul 2012 #18

I'm very sorry about your friend. Don't liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #84

They're just another far right fringe group that's got a foothold in the govt Doctor_J Jul 2012 #104

Clarification nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #19

Thanks for the clarification lunatica Jul 2012 #20

I was upset with Columbine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #22

We should never stop being upset lunatica Jul 2012 #27

It is unacceptable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #29

The death of Ashley is totally overlooked lunatica Jul 2012 #34

They (the gun worshipers) should be enraged Ineeda Jul 2012 #65

How about the deaths of the 11 others? kurtzapril4 Jul 2012 #72

What are you talking about? lunatica Jul 2012 #95

Here is why the do not talk about further laws GarroHorus Jul 2012 #30

It's a stupid argument malaise Jul 2012 #35

SCOTUS separated the milita thing from the right in their decision GarroHorus Jul 2012 #91

Fuck those RW scumbags malaise Jul 2012 #100

Majority decided by Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas and Alito GarroHorus Jul 2012 #102

So what militia unit do you drill with regularly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #37

Right-wing SCOTUS bongbong Jul 2012 #170

Another victim was a 27 year old man celebrating his birthday--and will leave a widow mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #38

I feel the city of Aurora is filled with victims of this crime. lunatica Jul 2012 #97

Well, of course. The stories are only beginning to come out as victims are ID'd mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #148

This did it. liberalmuse Jul 2012 #41

Sane gun owners should be the first to want security clearance lunatica Jul 2012 #98

Why? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #45

But.. ananda Jul 2012 #48

So? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #71

Your logic lunatica Jul 2012 #74

In what way? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #153

"...used only about 300 times a year to commit murder" pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #157

Compared to what? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #158

Sorry, I have a hard time seeing a lot of murders as "absurdly low" pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #160

Nuclear weapons killed 0 people last year, much less than hands OR feet, clearly I should own one Dragonfli Jul 2012 #150

Ah, the old nuclear weapon red herring. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #152

Obviously you don't want any ban of any kind on weapons lunatica Jul 2012 #53

I certainly don't want a ban on long arms. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #69

Guns 9000 hands and feet 800. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #131

What makes mass murder any more serious than single murder? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #151

A seriously stupid question at this point in tme. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #154

America is under attack from within-greed of the American gun industry. ErikJ Jul 2012 #47

Problem/reaction/solution. down is up Jul 2012 #50

Holmes was tampered with ??? ananda Jul 2012 #51

Another idiotic statement from a new member lunatica Jul 2012 #54

Former member :) pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #56

. lunatica Jul 2012 #64

I was wondering how long nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #68

tampered with? hmmmm. please enlighten us. spanone Jul 2012 #163

and the four month old baby. n/t mzteris Jul 2012 #52

It breaks my heart lunatica Jul 2012 #55

Me too. I can't even imagine what this family is going through. snappyturtle Jul 2012 #82

And large clips. skip fox Jul 2012 #77

I really hate that every time someone tries to discuss rational gun law, the pro gun gang likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #80

And you will also notice that they do the same thing when multiple people die by gun. RC Jul 2012 #92

And they even post photos of the weapons lunatica Jul 2012 #93

there has got to be a psychological profile somewhere about this phenomenom. I have seen CTyankee Jul 2012 #101

Yes. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #114

Now you're getting it lunatica Jul 2012 #130

Haha JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #111

I think marijuana should be legal lunatica Jul 2012 #113

So do I. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #116

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #171

So you hate facts being introduced into an argument. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #112

Facts aren't obtuse and heartless lunatica Jul 2012 #115

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #118

You joined yesterday just to chat guns on DU....and you accuse others of trolling? likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #120

If he accuses people of his sins first, then no one will notice his sins will they? lunatica Jul 2012 #123

Oh, ain't that rich? Yesterday? Holy cow! CTyankee Jul 2012 #141

The NRA must be paying you well lunatica Jul 2012 #122

No kidding. Joined yesterday, coincidence? Just here to spew gun shit. likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #124

I'm a long time lurker. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #126

LOL! lunatica Jul 2012 #136

Elvis is back to lurking. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #138

Oops! lunatica Jul 2012 #140

Ah, he has done his work among us. And now he is gone...well, that was brief! CTyankee Jul 2012 #142

I like facts, but sometimes the details don't matter that much. If someone drove in to a crowd of likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #119

Brings back horrible memories of the DC/MD sniper Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #105

I saw her aunt interviewed on the news. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #121

I'm with you on this one. likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #125

Well I hated that it was highjacked in an effort lunatica Jul 2012 #127

Thats why they are here, sis. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #137

How is it "hijacking" when people are responding to statements in the OP? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #165

that's really sad Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #156

The saddest story... and this from Whittier. ananda Jul 2012 #168