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bhikkhu

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20. A cultural difference - they see gun ownership more as a sober responsibility

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:17 PM

Jul 2012

I'm sure it varies quite a bit here, as there are plenty of responsible owners, but I know a bunch of people myself who stockpiled guns and massive amounts of ammunition after listening to beck & co ramping up the fear and hate on one cock-eyed theory after another...

We'd probably agree that if we're stuck with gun ownership because of our history (in the same way that Switzerland is), there is a culture of education and maturity that should go with it; and without some stronger sense of unity and a basic sense of the value of people themselves these things will keep happening. Its not just guns, its the unity and maturity of the culture itself (or the lack thereof, in our case).

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America is a Violent Country [View all] salvorhardin Jul 2012 OP

New Zealand either has something going on or there ain't nobody 2on2u Jul 2012 #1

New Zealand doesn't even have the lowest gun ownership per capita either salvorhardin Jul 2012 #2

You should have a closer look at that chart before relying on it. mattclearing Jul 2012 #31

The apologists will tell you that violent crime has gone down flamingdem Jul 2012 #3

extreme yet, never extreme enough fascisthunter Jul 2012 #4

Don't jump too far salvorhardin Jul 2012 #5

Gun violence death figures are 10,000 per year USA, 46 in England flamingdem Jul 2012 #6

Right salvorhardin Jul 2012 #7

I see what you're saying flamingdem Jul 2012 #8

Actually 8700 in 2010 and still falling. hack89 Jul 2012 #33

Charts that list just gun deaths would be even more lopsided than these Major Nikon Jul 2012 #9

I can't find time series data for gun deaths salvorhardin Jul 2012 #11

"Which of those countries have liberal gun laws?" bhikkhu Jul 2012 #17

Gun onwership in Switzerland is very different from the US Major Nikon Jul 2012 #19

A cultural difference - they see gun ownership more as a sober responsibility bhikkhu Jul 2012 #20

I've been living in Switzerland for a long time now, and your Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #28

Finland is really weird eridani Jul 2012 #22

Some of the happiest countries have the highest suicide rates Major Nikon Jul 2012 #24

Well, yes. But Norway, Sweden and Finland seem so similar eridani Jul 2012 #25

There has been a large and constant drop in that rate in the subsequent 11 years hack89 Jul 2012 #35

So, trust you instead of DOJ or FBI stats? Tejas Jul 2012 #34

We have cut our murder rate in half in the past 30 years hack89 Jul 2012 #36

Much of the gun violence in the US B2G Jul 2012 #10

Interesting idea salvorhardin Jul 2012 #15

Also of interest salvorhardin Jul 2012 #12

Delaware and Maryland may be anomalies because eridani Jul 2012 #23

It's the promotion of guns AND our biggest industry--producing war soldiers. valerief Jul 2012 #13

Oh, it's definitely cultural salvorhardin Jul 2012 #14

Absolutely! nt valerief Jul 2012 #16

Wealth discrepancy, mental health stigmas, an extremely heterogeneous culture... Brickbat Jul 2012 #18

Gangs and drugs B2G Jul 2012 #21

LOL, let's see the chart for Mexico. Tejas Jul 2012 #26

I Own 3 Guns MooseTrax Jul 2012 #27

Interesting that you should find "assault death" statistics Surya Gayatri Jul 2012 #29

LOL "penile compensation" Tejas Jul 2012 #30

LOL you live in Europe, where SILENCERS are legal. Tejas Jul 2012 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author HuckleB Jul 2012 #37

Clear Channel Tsiyu Jul 2012 #38