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geckosfeet

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52. Well he did create havoc. No one is sure why - yet, but it is clear that he drank deeply from
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:11 PM
Jul 2012

the cup of firearms culture. He was well armed, had ballistic armor, gas canisters and had some sense of tactics. His apartment is booby trapped. For someone who started buying his weapons 6 months ago, he learned fairly quickly how to slaughter a lot of people very efficiently. He is a very smart but very troubled person. Perhaps he is insane. Perhaps despondent. Perhaps funded and motivated by a shadowy group. Perhaps he was motivated by Rush Limpballs. No one but the shooter knows - yet.

I would call it murder regardless of his mental status. His mental status really does not change the act for me.

Not all right wingers are gun nutz. Not all left wingers are anti-gun. I consider myself a fairly radical liberal and I own several. And I am certain that there is a way to stop these atrocities without banning all firearms.


DO NOT REMAIN SILENT [View all] OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 OP
We don't know that politics had anything to do with this incident. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #1
And I Am Posting Assuming That Politics DID... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #3
I can live with egg on my face. ananda Jul 2012 #23
B) Holmes came from a San Diego Congressional district that has NEVER voted democrat. oldhippydude Jul 2012 #40
More a case of mental illness? Jessy169 Jul 2012 #74
And I work at a prison... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #75
The facts have bukkaked your face with egg. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2012 #41
What an Amazingly Mature Response! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #90
You are rational to jump to your conclusion Jessy169 Jul 2012 #70
Well Said! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #71
How do we know Holme's was a gun nut? soccer1 Jul 2012 #72
I don't think so. His mind got emilyg Jul 2012 #76
True... catnhatnh Jul 2012 #4
But he's using the incident as a sprinboard for the stop-the-guns and gun culture argument. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #5
No... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #7
I certainly see your point about the hypocrisy. Zalatix Jul 2012 #13
I Agree 100% OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #17
I didn't apply a political motive to you. Who was the one who chose to post a political post about Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #60
Now You Are a Liar As Well As A Hypocrite... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #62
Yes you did. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #66
And what about all the other incidents he mentioned? Are you saying that the far right does NOT sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #64
it is time to call it out and marginalize it as most civilized societies do. lunasun Jul 2012 #78
I agree- it is not free speech Tumbulu Jul 2012 #81
If and When... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #83
I dream of this myself Tumbulu Jul 2012 #91
Believe me... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #6
Durn... chervilant Jul 2012 #42
It's Not Paranoia... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #63
+1 redqueen Jul 2012 #73
Ahhh, but politics does have something to do with it. The politics of pressuring politicians geckosfeet Jul 2012 #8
Calm down... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #10
Well he did create havoc. No one is sure why - yet, but it is clear that he drank deeply from geckosfeet Jul 2012 #52
an excellent point. barbtries Jul 2012 #24
He was using legally obtained guns. Therefore, politics had everything to do with this shooting. nt Walk away Jul 2012 #28
Good post malaise Jul 2012 #2
I'm not sure what the opposite of "Disaster Capitalism" is, but you exploit it well. n/t bluedigger Jul 2012 #9
Just Ringing the Bell... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #11
So you think we *shouldn't* blame the shooter? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #12
We need to blame the rhetoric that inspired this shooting, too. Zalatix Jul 2012 #14
I wasn't aware that evidence had coming out showing the shooter was inspired by someone's rhetoric. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #16
By rhetoric do you mean the Batman movies themselves? MikeCanadian Jul 2012 #61
Actually, he was dressed as Bain. He CLAIMED to be the Joker. Zalatix Jul 2012 #86
Perhaps there wasn't any. emilyg Jul 2012 #77
I think Limbaugh could have inspired him, but you could be correct, too. Zalatix Jul 2012 #87
Only if He's Nuts... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #15
Do you have evidence for this assertion? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #18
Read the whole thread, Johnny... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #19
In other words it's a blind assertion, not backed up by evidence. Got it. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #22
Blind? Nope... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #26
I'll be the first to admit it if the evidence crops up. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #30
Operative Word... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #33
excellent read. barbtries Jul 2012 #20
All the whining and hand-wringing won't prevent zombie attacks slackmaster Jul 2012 #21
The ONLY thing a gun is designed to do is kill. ananda Jul 2012 #25
Some things need to be killed slackmaster Jul 2012 #34
Ha! Inkfreak Jul 2012 #49
why heaven05 Jul 2012 #27
Conservatives have shredded the conscience of Americans, savaging all living things, then laugh. freshwest Jul 2012 #59
There is certainly.... sendero Jul 2012 #29
okay I won't keep silent hfojvt Jul 2012 #31
So you think I'm nuts... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #32
He began buying guns long before Limbaugh bloviated about Bane/Bain. bluedigger Jul 2012 #35
Unless, of course... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #36
You might be right. bluedigger Jul 2012 #44
I've seen people with fake hunting licenses of that nature on their SUVs and hats. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #37
Bingo! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #38
Actually, when I look at such things I don't see a hunting license. I see "I'M AN ASSHOLE!" HopeHoops Jul 2012 #45
While that may or may not be true... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #65
Yeah, I know. Even if it isn't a direct threat, it advocates it. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #89
The absolute very first thing findrskeep Jul 2012 #39
What did he say? I don't listen to Limbaugh. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #47
Me, too. ancianita Jul 2012 #53
It don't affect them ironman25 Jul 2012 #43
And you have left out John and Robert Kennedy JDPriestly Jul 2012 #46
And MLK Jr. OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #69
Racism is the black, rotted heart of America datasuspect Jul 2012 #48
Ok first of all I'm willing to bet the shooter is a parnoid schizophrenic. TNLib Jul 2012 #50
Any shooting involves the politics of why and how that gun was used. Lint Head Jul 2012 #51
You know this might come as a bit of a shock to you but Daniel537 Jul 2012 #54
This might come as a bit of a shock to you, but... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #68
Human evil is pathological in nature... Larry Ogg Jul 2012 #55
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #56
You certainly are angry, aren't you? Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #57
Loughner Is Crazy... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #67
Thanks for posting. Never forget. freshwest Jul 2012 #58
Gabby Giffords? That shooters friends said he despised George bush Zax2me Jul 2012 #79
I hear the same thing from Tea baggers all of the time... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #80
Good OP! Tumbulu Jul 2012 #82
Yes! Let's work on a list of words and phrases and ideas we should ban. Skip Intro Jul 2012 #84
I'll Settle for a Bona Fide Debate... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #85
agree (nt) Tumbulu Jul 2012 #92
this is the reason i'm voting for obama. nt tomp Jul 2012 #88
To win.... The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #93
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