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188. No idea what you are talking about.

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Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:01 PM

Dec 2017

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To the people who keep saying "get over it" about the far-left's sabotage of our nation: [View all] DanTex Dec 2017 OP

Let me be the first to say genxlib Dec 2017 #1

Golly, Magoo48 Dec 2017 #194

The OP clearly says that the right, the GOP, BoBs, and Steiners own this. lapucelle Dec 2017 #222

I am K&R-ing BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #272

Give me a break. jmowreader Dec 2017 #227

Agree 100% nt lillypaddle Dec 2017 #2

You are 100% correct louis c Dec 2017 #3

She got paid for treason, just like flynn Alice11111 Dec 2017 #154

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #170

All of those photos are of elected or appointed officails doing their jobs louis c Dec 2017 #178

lol... ok sure. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #182

Name on the ballot to siphen votes louis c Dec 2017 #186

I see that your post was removed. Now, that's funny LOL louis c Dec 2017 #187

yeah... Dorian Gray Dec 2017 #319

Speaking of Jill Stein... rainin Dec 2017 #4

A vote for Stein was a vote for Trump Gothmog Dec 2017 #6

And, as it turns out, a vote for Putin. n/t rainin Dec 2017 #7

Yes workinclasszero Dec 2017 #17

Yes workinclasszero Dec 2017 #16

Technically... chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #96

You are wrong Gothmog Dec 2017 #122

I want to support what you said so I will just do that. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #153

Um...no, I am not. chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #175

Thanks Matt_R Dec 2017 #206

That's your "logic". lapucelle Dec 2017 #232

You completely lost me with this post. chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #234

Assuming the truth of an unsupported conclusion lapucelle Dec 2017 #242

Let's get back to the original point of all of this... chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #261

The MI and WI tallies support Gothmog's claim. lapucelle Dec 2017 #278

It's a metaphor. It means Stein siphoned off potential Democratic votes which enabled Trump to win emulatorloo Dec 2017 #286

If that is true, then Gary Johnson siphoned off potential Repub votes from Trump chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #317

+1 progressoid Dec 2017 #267

You sound like the Nader supporters.... paleotn Dec 2017 #251

That assumes that the Stein voters were Democrats or would ever vote Democratic. Gore1FL Dec 2017 #104

your statement is of practical use if everyone who voted for Stein.... BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #248

I would agree, personally. Gore1FL Dec 2017 #262

I had heard this very comment from BoBers and Stein supporters BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #287

I am simply pointing out the logical fallacies of many on DU who can't seem to put 2018 in focus. nt Gore1FL Dec 2017 #298

Yes not fooled Dec 2017 #185

She was literally sitting in Putin's table ansible Dec 2017 #14

I was going to post this picture Gothmog Dec 2017 #149

Stein's job in this election was to syphone off Dem votes BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #250

That would be great! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #156

That's on my wish list, Progressive dog Dec 2017 #223

K&R Gothmog Dec 2017 #5

Thank you for speaking the truth! And... AND... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #8

There is no way Sarandon wants a revolution to separate her from her millions delisen Dec 2017 #27

She is the worst, prime example of stupidity. She was also a Naderite. What's the phrase,... brush Dec 2017 #64

She was a Naderite-I had forgotten delisen Dec 2017 #113

Nader gave us the Iraq war, Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act Gothmog Dec 2017 #150

Amen. Texin Dec 2017 #124

She was not wrong in that video LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #155

What is "exactly what happened?" thucythucy Dec 2017 #165

People are angry and mobilzing. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #181

In the meantime millions more will suffer thucythucy Dec 2017 #216

Great post! brer cat Dec 2017 #283

Thank you. thucythucy Dec 2017 #289

She's as bad as the rapture clowns..... Historic NY Dec 2017 #197

+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #275

Three times in my lifetime: Nixon, W. Bush, Trump. yardwork Dec 2017 #9

+1 n/t Kind of Blue Dec 2017 #41

100% poppycock belief-based bias, KPN Dec 2017 #10

+1 n/t ejbr Dec 2017 #18

Agreed! LongTomH Dec 2017 #45

yep G_j Dec 2017 #47

"...serves no useful purpose." Agreed. Merlot Dec 2017 #48

Nah, I blame the Sarandon too. That idiot is two-times-stupid. She was a Naderite in 2000 also... brush Dec 2017 #74

Blaming is useless. KPN Dec 2017 #80

Maybe to you. Maybe it'll open some eyes so we don't get three-times stupid voters. brush Dec 2017 #84

I don't believe blaming will have that effect. I have never seen blame do anything positive KPN Dec 2017 #95

Maybe not calling it "blaming" but making people aware of "siren song" pitfalls to avoid... brush Dec 2017 #162

Do you think messaging "beware of siren songs" KPN Dec 2017 #172

And you think that's what happened with the people who sat home, voted 3rd party of wrote in... brush Dec 2017 #180

Yes I do. I think far more people voted or not voted KPN Dec 2017 #193

Yeah, yeah, like some people don't vote for someone because they don't like the sound of their voice brush Dec 2017 #203

Yeah that's it, I'm projecting. KPN Dec 2017 #218

I call them out. It hasn't helped my social relationships, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #161

I agree, have to make them aware of past pitfalls to avoid. brush Dec 2017 #166

It's important to recognize the shit that went wrong BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #253

Um, yeah, but the point is, she's NOT a politician, whathehell Dec 2017 #87

I followed the campaign. She was front and center at many rallies and all over TV in many interviews brush Dec 2017 #93

I followed it too, and I stand by my statement. That said, if whathehell Dec 2017 #108

You're exactly right on those two. And I'll use an old phrase...they are uncle toms. brush Dec 2017 #114

Not a good phrase. Harriet Beacher Stow's, Uncle Tom's Alice11111 Dec 2017 #171

We know about the book. Guess you're not aware that the phrase is from the AA activist community... brush Dec 2017 #184

I know what it means these days, but it was adopted from UTC, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #202

I'm AA and it is meant to offend those who it is directed towards. And they know who they are. brush Dec 2017 #204

Okay, I get you.. whathehell Dec 2017 #207

Agreed, but she drove some to Stein, just as she drove some to Nader in 2000. brush Dec 2017 #243

She may well have done so.. whathehell Dec 2017 #247

All good points. KPN Dec 2017 #79

The far-left bought the lies about Hillary radical noodle Dec 2017 #102

Stop with the "far-left" bullshit. Talk about KPN Dec 2017 #135

I saw them celebrating Trump's election radical noodle Dec 2017 #209

Who's them? KPN Dec 2017 #219

I'm sure you know who radical noodle Dec 2017 #240

You are wrong, the far left did not fall for Russian iies. They had their own reasons LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #146

Well said! KPN Dec 2017 #164

Thanks KPN LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #183

Not just the far left. I know a lot of Dems who bought the Alice11111 Dec 2017 #176

Yes... I've lost friends too. radical noodle Dec 2017 #210

It does. I agree. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #215

Guess one Susan Sarandon was more powerful than Hillary's army of celebrities... who knew? SMC22307 Dec 2017 #246

Yes mountain grammy Dec 2017 #49

+1 chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #94

+infinity OrwellwasRight Dec 2017 #121

Thank you. Agreed 1000% eom Arazi Dec 2017 #137

You may not like the purpose, but that doesn't mean it doesn't serve a purpose. BzaDem Dec 2017 #157

Shouted to who? KPN Dec 2017 #169

To those who might not be aware of their true natures. BzaDem Dec 2017 #179

No idea what you are talking about. KPN Dec 2017 #188

From the OP: "Jill Stein, Chris Hedges, Cornel West, Jimmy Dore, Susan Sarandon" BzaDem Dec 2017 #198

Look ... I have a basic disagreement KPN Dec 2017 #214

You can disagree with basic logic and the dictionary, but that would make you wrong. BzaDem Dec 2017 #226

Thank you Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #212

Yep. "The buck stops here" is a concept lost on too many. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2017 #252

Disagree with this HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #11

Or sat out the election n/t ejbr Dec 2017 #19

Yes, those folks too HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #22

For some, not voting is a vote KPN Dec 2017 #75

Truth! chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #97

There were more Green votes than in 2004, 2008, and 2012. DanTex Dec 2017 #23

THIS BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #40

Thank you. I keep on pointing out that votes for Gary Johnson PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #44

Gary Johnson BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #83

It's delusional to think that everyone who voted Green Party is gullible ... KPN Dec 2017 #111

I'm sure there are one or two who aren't total imbeciles. DanTex Dec 2017 #128

Well, that strikes me as a rather arrogant and irresponsible view. KPN Dec 2017 #140

This is not the second time DoctorRobert Dec 2017 #117

**cough**Iran hostage crisis**oil shocks**Ed Koch**cough** JHB Dec 2017 #320

Agree. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #205

Hillary received 60,000 GaryCnf Dec 2017 #270

Thank you. I don't know why this is so hard for people to process. Nay Dec 2017 #25

+1 chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #100

+1000 InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #254

Please provide a link BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #276

The few thousand who voted for spoilers, in state "counties" like in Pa.,aided Republican party ONLY Sunlei Dec 2017 #35

No evidence for your claim that I can find. delisen Dec 2017 #36

Thanks for posting this. pandr32 Dec 2017 #103

How does this compare to other elections? .99center Dec 2017 #126

+1000 LongTomH Dec 2017 #46

Yup. And even in that case KPN Dec 2017 #78

Yep. If a transgender woman can win in a conservative Virginia county, SMC22307 Dec 2017 #245

+1 chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #98

16% of Bernie voters in PA voted for Trump leftofcool Dec 2017 #138

What makes you assume those voters were nominal Democrats, or even left of center to begin with? Tom Rinaldo Dec 2017 #144

The OP is clearly NOT BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #274

Maybe scroll up.... KTM Dec 2017 #288

I wont get over something that will destroy every safety net i have. nini Dec 2017 #12

Many claim their whole game is changing the economy... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #13

Schtroumpf is not solely the fault of "TEH EXTREME LEFT". HughBeaumont Dec 2017 #15

Totally agree with this. Moreover, right depends on sociopathic doubling down to force this kind ancianita Dec 2017 #30

Strawman NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #71

It is true. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #20

Unfortunately the morons who say those kinds of things don't learn. They don't learn. nt Hekate Dec 2017 #65

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2017 #21

Sid! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2017 #55

Hey, you! Hekate Dec 2017 #77

Whoa ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #91

Good to see you here Sid mcar Dec 2017 #152

Hi, Sid. Skidmore Dec 2017 #195

GREAT POST heaven05 Dec 2017 #24

As long as you remind people what the right and far right are doing. The far left is small potatoes UCmeNdc Dec 2017 #26

Stein isn't far left, she's a Russian troll masquerading as a progressive! lark Dec 2017 #28

When they unplug MFM008 Dec 2017 #29

massive k&r JHan Dec 2017 #31

I've often thought THEY should "get over it". Lil Missy Dec 2017 #32

Huge K&R, Dan. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #33

K&R Mountain Mule Dec 2017 #34

I can't believe you people are still harping about these assholes. Really? CrispyQ Dec 2017 #37

yes, and its so EASY to make a phone call, instead of 24/7 'fighting on 'social medias' Sunlei Dec 2017 #39

remember Steins "stunt" when she spray painted a bulldozer at XM pipeline protest? Republicans pushe Sunlei Dec 2017 #38

Indeed treestar Dec 2017 #42

Humans as a species tend to learn things the hard way Dem2 Dec 2017 #43

"Far Left??" I wonder if FDR and JFK would be dismissed as "Far Left" now?? LongTomH Dec 2017 #50

Strawman n/t emulatorloo Dec 2017 #52

Strawman? Facts, Young Progressives are winning and old conservatives aren't getting any younger. LongTomH Dec 2017 #56

That's not the strawman part. Your bullshit claim that DU'ers label JFK and FDR "far left" emulatorloo Dec 2017 #61

probably would be considered "far left" - SMDH Locrian Dec 2017 #54

Bernie fought hard to elect a Democratic president in 2016. This thread isn't about emulatorloo Dec 2017 #59

It's 'Democratic' president, not 'Democrat' LongTomH Dec 2017 #67

AFAIK I corrected the term prior to your post. Saw my error. Thanks though emulatorloo Dec 2017 #70

I've been harping on this for years... maddiemom Dec 2017 #125

Since you mention it, the far left did try to sabotage FDR as well. DanTex Dec 2017 #62

Strawman Hekate Dec 2017 #109

The current "far left" are sabotaging those goals, not helping achieve them. moriah Dec 2017 #189

Actually, the far left hated FDR. thucythucy Dec 2017 #291

Well, many party folks told them we didn't need them and they should eff off. aikoaiko Dec 2017 #51

Yes indeed! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #260

Oh yes melman Dec 2017 #264

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #53

that and not giving a shit about OrwellwasRight Dec 2017 #127

90 million eligible voters didn't vote in 2016 while Jill Stein got 1.2 million votes. jalan48 Dec 2017 #57

Preach it! chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #105

Because blame and lack of introspection and analysis are soooo much easier! SMC22307 Dec 2017 #256

+100 PDittie Dec 2017 #268

Not really the second time it has happened. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #58

And as we have since learned, BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #279

Huh?.... whathehell Dec 2017 #60

Well said, and they arent going to admit THAT ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #63

Let's hope the Democratic Party doesn't adopt your projection as a formal strategy Fiendish Thingy Dec 2017 #66

LOL. "Projection". Nice one! DanTex Dec 2017 #68

Puhlease... marcopolo63 Dec 2017 #69

Did you really just refer Jill Stein as "our own"? LOL. DanTex Dec 2017 #72

A large segment of the Democratic Party base ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #82

Check that... marcopolo63 Dec 2017 #89

She falls on the horseshoe part. From her part of the spectrum, Trump is preferable DanTex Dec 2017 #123

The sad thing is, we're doing it to ourselves! LongTomH Dec 2017 #73

I agree LongTomH marcopolo63 Dec 2017 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author SharonKatz Dec 2017 #132

PREACH mindfulNJ Dec 2017 #76

Sigh. There is no 'far left' in the US n/t leftstreet Dec 2017 #81

Even if all of Jills DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #85

Do you have a citation for that? Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #90

I dont have a citation but DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #107

I won't forget either. I agree with you. nt MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #86

There is no fucking "far-left" sabotage. alarimer Dec 2017 #88

+1 Gore1FL Dec 2017 #99

Even if there were, focusing on denouncing that doesn't help us gain votes. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #131

I was not nearly vocal enough last year, although I did point out they were spreading garbage from bettyellen Dec 2017 #101

Bravo. Dead on. nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #106

While I appreciate everything you are saying,the longer we stew in these juices the less of a chance Vinca Dec 2017 #110

Yep world wide wally Dec 2017 #112

The election was stolen. Your premise is bullshit. period. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2017 #115

What Does This Accomplish? Muneravenmn Dec 2017 #116

Welcome to DU! Enjoy your stay.... moriah Dec 2017 #139

Sabotage implies intent caraher Dec 2017 #118

Yes it does. DanTex Dec 2017 #134

+1 Hekate Dec 2017 #196

It implies intent, but can happen accidentally (or the intent be from outsider influence). moriah Dec 2017 #174

Until instant runoff is available at the Presidential level... moriah Dec 2017 #119

I'm a democratic communist agincourt Dec 2017 #120

I spent a lot of time on social media, when I wasn't canvassing(doorbelling-they're the same thing) Ken Burch Dec 2017 #133

LOL NurseJackie Dec 2017 #148

K&R musette_sf Dec 2017 #129

I'm not going to dispute your argument about the consequences. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #130

Jill Stein is not going to change. DanTex Dec 2017 #136

And all of us here agree with you...so what's the point? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #142

Again, it's the same point as criticizing Trump or the GOP. DanTex Dec 2017 #143

I don't give a damn about Jill Stein...personally, I think she's a "fucking moron". Ken Burch Dec 2017 #147

I'm not running a campaign here. DanTex Dec 2017 #249

This is so bogus. zentrum Dec 2017 #141

As annoying, opportunistic and disingenuous as Stein was liberalnarb Dec 2017 #145

I didn't know that Cornell West refused to vote for Hillary, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #151

Cornel West: Why I Endorse Green Partys Jill Stein Over Neoliberal Disaster Hillary Clinton ucrdem Dec 2017 #160

Thks for info. He just went to my shit list. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #163

Imagine if all those months of Clinton-bashing had gone toward voter rights or election reform. ucrdem Dec 2017 #263

So many ways we could have gotten to a different place, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #313

I lulz'd KG Dec 2017 #158

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #159

I WAS BERNIE ALL THE WAY BUT............... davidmp Dec 2017 #167

Welcome to DU! moriah Dec 2017 #201

We do have a schism Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #168

Rec'd earlier - commenting now JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #173

Then we will continue to lose 4now Dec 2017 #177

K&R betsuni Dec 2017 #190

I call them "Faux-Left" McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #191

K&R x 1000 brer cat Dec 2017 #192

Sarandon stands to profit handsomely from the tax bill Politicub Dec 2017 #199

Blame the far-left, Bernie supporters, socialists, etc etc redixdoragon Dec 2017 #200

"Far-left" shaming is nonsense... Dennis Donovan Dec 2017 #208

So? You are unwilling to admit that this election was stolen? And if it was stolen, how is it Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #211

Oh, it was stolen, alright. But there was more than one thief. sadiegirl Dec 2017 #213

Dividing Democrats BlueWI Dec 2017 #217

LOL "far left sabotage" Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #220

Thanks, couldn't say it better myself. I'm far more worried by oligarchs than leftists. diane in sf Dec 2017 #221

It's great that you are well-off enough to be able to DGAF. DanTex Dec 2017 #237

Far from it, lol Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #241

Echo chamber hate thread. philly_bob Dec 2017 #224

The far-left only supports the far-left. Progressive dog Dec 2017 #225

Any focus on the mythical "far left" misses the massive problem of guillaumeb Dec 2017 #228

Well informed and well said. Thank you. snowy owl Dec 2017 #231

Thank YOU. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #233

Agreed. We are where we are because of it. democratisphere Dec 2017 #229

Amazing... snowy owl Dec 2017 #230

+1 PDittie Dec 2017 #269

If you're waiting for everyone to shut up, get in line and quit being so goddamn disorderly... Baconator Dec 2017 #235

LOL. "Being disorderly" is a peculiar euphemism for intentionally putting Trump into office. DanTex Dec 2017 #236

Well said. :) snowy owl Dec 2017 #257

So you are trying to find someone to blame? YOHABLO Dec 2017 #238

I disagree jimlup Dec 2017 #239

I agree 100%. The last thing you or I and others should do in response to OPs like this KPN Dec 2017 #258

Bingo! jimlup Dec 2017 #266

Bravo seta1950 Dec 2017 #244

I don't recommend GaryCnf Dec 2017 #255

Bravo! KPN Dec 2017 #259

Over? I think not! Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2017 #265

I would not frame it as far vs. moderate left- many of us "far lefties" are also coalition builders Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2017 #271

Thank you! MountCleaners Dec 2017 #277

"simple-minded binary thinker vs. pragmatic" honest.abe Dec 2017 #284

The corporate Dems drink and eat from the same trough as the Republicans INdemo Dec 2017 #273

So I assume you defined Hillary as being "corporate" and refused to support her. honest.abe Dec 2017 #282

I would not call her a progressive INdemo Dec 2017 #292

In comparison to Trump she is a raging progressive. honest.abe Dec 2017 #296

Well no one on nothing compares to Donald Trump except ________________ fill in the blank INdemo Dec 2017 #299

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #285

I disagree. No the Bernie Supporters do no hate Elizabeth Warren INdemo Dec 2017 #293

Paste magazine is not "right wing". Author of the article is a self-avowed progressive emulatorloo Dec 2017 #297

That is exactly the great lie paraded by Trump supporters dressed up as "progressives". DanTex Dec 2017 #290

This is what the koch's and putin want to you think. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #316

Totally agree and its troubling that many still are unwilling to admit their mistake. honest.abe Dec 2017 #280

Yeppers Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #322

that is the issue Dan, many of those that refused to vote for the Democratic nominee against still_one Dec 2017 #281

Thank you for posting that link to the Chomsky interview. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #295

exactly Willie still_one Dec 2017 #303

When in human history has insulting people won their vote? yurbud Dec 2017 #294

Do centrist Democrats take this approach with their big donors too? yurbud Dec 2017 #300

AFAIK you never recc'd up Putin propaganda or advocated Bernie or Bust or voting for Trump emulatorloo Dec 2017 #301

by offering more progressive candidates with progressive track records. yurbud Dec 2017 #302

Thanks. More progressive candidates is the right thing for the country emulatorloo Dec 2017 #304

it's not a conspiracy theory to look at politicians' track records and donors yurbud Dec 2017 #305

What part of Pizzagate and DNC killed Seth Rich are "politicians track records and donors". emulatorloo Dec 2017 #307

ah! I didn't think there were any Democrats who believed that. yurbud Dec 2017 #310

What would count as "Putin propaganda"? yurbud Dec 2017 #306

Anti-Democratic shit from Russia Today. Posted up and rec'd up. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #308

so Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, and Lee Camp are Russian dupes? yurbud Dec 2017 #309

Stop putting words in my mouth. I did not refer to Hartman, Camp, or Shultz nor did I have them in emulatorloo Dec 2017 #311

Hartmann was and is a fan of Sanders. snowy owl Dec 2017 #312

Sorry, I'm trying to figure out exactly what you mean. Those are most yurbud Dec 2017 #314

I have a theory on part of that Kentonio Dec 2017 #321

The only developed democracies with less of a "far left" than our tiny one are tilting hard right. LeftyMom Dec 2017 #315

+1 OrwellwasRight Dec 2017 #323

Not a chance of them admitting to it. JHan Dec 2017 #318