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OneAngryDemocrat

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Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:16 AM Jul 2012

DO NOT REMAIN SILENT [View all]

Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:55 PM - Edit history (2)



Do not remain silent.

Conservatives certainly will not speak out.

They will blame the lone, solitary, shooter...

They will blame liberal society...

They will blame anything and everything but modern-day conservatism, which preaches that liberals and democrats are the bona fide enemies of America and threats to the nation's very existence.

Only the most naive or apologetic of political observers could doubt that different right-wing conservatives would deal with the perceived threat liberals and democrats pose to them in different ways, and that some would, inevitably, resort to violence.

And as long as that is the case, as long as liberals and democrats are "the enemy" the bodies will continue to pile up.

And that leaves it to us to speak up.

We need not mince words - it is vital that we speak clearly and succinctly and firmly. We will not debate the issue; We are now making a demand: Conservatism must evolve.

It MUST change.

To believe otherwise is to help pass around the nails for the coffin in which the next liberal democrat will be buried in.

No one was out there speaking about the radical right-wing elements that threaten our civil society until Janet Napolitano issued a DHS report warning about extremists that might resort to violence - a report which conservatives across the country demanded to be immediately rescinded. Now that we have seen a series of right-wing assassinations take place, the original DHS report looks, in hindsight, to have been very timely and prescient.

We have seen Jim David Adkisson open fire upon the congregation of the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church with a sawed-off shotgun, killing two, simply because he opposed the all-inclusive nature of the church, and of the church's liberal teachings. Adkisson wrote in a letter which he assumed would be his last, "I thought I’d do something good for this country — kill Democrats ‘til (sic) the cops kill me.” His hatred for his fellow Americans could not be contained: “Liberals are a pest like termites, millions of them … the only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets, kill them where they gather.”

James von Brunn, a radical right-winger from Maryland sought to turn the nation's Holocaust Museum into a symbol for his particular brand of racism, when he went there with the intent to kill blacks and Jews, as an example to the rest of white America to emulate. Luckily for those visitors inside of the museum, the first man von Brunn decided to open fire upon was a black man who had the ability to return the favor, and so no one besides than the very heroic Stephen T. Johns died that day.

Shawna Forde, and two other members of the anti-immigrant Minutman group which she founded, the ''Minutemen American Defense,'' decided that one way to finance her burgeoning organization was to dress up as law enforcement agents, and to rob Mexican immigrants. When Shawna and her compatriots illegally entered the home of Raul Flores, and demanded money, the head of the family ordered the trio to leave, prompting the radical right-wingers to put a bullet into the head of little 9 year old Brisenia Flores, and into the head of her father. Unluckily for the conservative killers, Brisenia's mother was able to barricade herself in her bedroom, where she kept a handgun, and she was able to keep at bay her would be assassins until the real police arrived.

Richard Poplawski opened fire on police officers during a domestic disturbance call, in April of 2009, killing three of them.

Why?

The 23 year-old right-winger feared that the President was poised to take away his hand guns.

Just a few days after that shoot-out, two sheriff’s deputies in northern Florida were shot and killed by Joshua Cartwright who later was fatally shot by other deputies. The reason, according to Cartright's wife, was because Joshua "believed that the US Government was conspiring against him," and, according to her, he had been severely disturbed that Barack Obama had been elected President.

The list of victims from right-wing terror does not stop there.

Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, Arkansa Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney, abortion provider Dr. George Tiller...

It goes on, and on: All of Eric Rudolph's many victims... followed by all of Timothy McVeigh's many more... the pre-eminent liberal leaders of the 1960's: JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr.

The list of liberal victims slain by conservative terrorists is LONG, and getting longer with each passing day that we remain silent.

For conservatives to hide blood-thirsty radicals within their ranks and to deny any responsibility in fostering the radicals bloodthirsty behavior doesn't help the conservative lobbyists attain their political aims and goals...

It, instead, helps the conservative terrorists attain theirs.
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DO NOT REMAIN SILENT [View all] OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 OP
We don't know that politics had anything to do with this incident. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #1
And I Am Posting Assuming That Politics DID... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #3
I can live with egg on my face. ananda Jul 2012 #23
B) Holmes came from a San Diego Congressional district that has NEVER voted democrat. oldhippydude Jul 2012 #40
More a case of mental illness? Jessy169 Jul 2012 #74
And I work at a prison... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #75
The facts have bukkaked your face with egg. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2012 #41
What an Amazingly Mature Response! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #90
You are rational to jump to your conclusion Jessy169 Jul 2012 #70
Well Said! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #71
How do we know Holme's was a gun nut? soccer1 Jul 2012 #72
I don't think so. His mind got emilyg Jul 2012 #76
True... catnhatnh Jul 2012 #4
But he's using the incident as a sprinboard for the stop-the-guns and gun culture argument. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #5
No... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #7
I certainly see your point about the hypocrisy. Zalatix Jul 2012 #13
I Agree 100% OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #17
I didn't apply a political motive to you. Who was the one who chose to post a political post about Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #60
Now You Are a Liar As Well As A Hypocrite... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #62
Yes you did. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #66
And what about all the other incidents he mentioned? Are you saying that the far right does NOT sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #64
it is time to call it out and marginalize it as most civilized societies do. lunasun Jul 2012 #78
I agree- it is not free speech Tumbulu Jul 2012 #81
If and When... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #83
I dream of this myself Tumbulu Jul 2012 #91
Believe me... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #6
Durn... chervilant Jul 2012 #42
It's Not Paranoia... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #63
+1 redqueen Jul 2012 #73
Ahhh, but politics does have something to do with it. The politics of pressuring politicians geckosfeet Jul 2012 #8
Calm down... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #10
Well he did create havoc. No one is sure why - yet, but it is clear that he drank deeply from geckosfeet Jul 2012 #52
an excellent point. barbtries Jul 2012 #24
He was using legally obtained guns. Therefore, politics had everything to do with this shooting. nt Walk away Jul 2012 #28
Good post malaise Jul 2012 #2
I'm not sure what the opposite of "Disaster Capitalism" is, but you exploit it well. n/t bluedigger Jul 2012 #9
Just Ringing the Bell... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #11
So you think we *shouldn't* blame the shooter? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #12
We need to blame the rhetoric that inspired this shooting, too. Zalatix Jul 2012 #14
I wasn't aware that evidence had coming out showing the shooter was inspired by someone's rhetoric. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #16
By rhetoric do you mean the Batman movies themselves? MikeCanadian Jul 2012 #61
Actually, he was dressed as Bain. He CLAIMED to be the Joker. Zalatix Jul 2012 #86
Perhaps there wasn't any. emilyg Jul 2012 #77
I think Limbaugh could have inspired him, but you could be correct, too. Zalatix Jul 2012 #87
Only if He's Nuts... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #15
Do you have evidence for this assertion? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #18
Read the whole thread, Johnny... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #19
In other words it's a blind assertion, not backed up by evidence. Got it. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #22
Blind? Nope... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #26
I'll be the first to admit it if the evidence crops up. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #30
Operative Word... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #33
excellent read. barbtries Jul 2012 #20
All the whining and hand-wringing won't prevent zombie attacks slackmaster Jul 2012 #21
The ONLY thing a gun is designed to do is kill. ananda Jul 2012 #25
Some things need to be killed slackmaster Jul 2012 #34
Ha! Inkfreak Jul 2012 #49
why heaven05 Jul 2012 #27
Conservatives have shredded the conscience of Americans, savaging all living things, then laugh. freshwest Jul 2012 #59
There is certainly.... sendero Jul 2012 #29
okay I won't keep silent hfojvt Jul 2012 #31
So you think I'm nuts... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #32
He began buying guns long before Limbaugh bloviated about Bane/Bain. bluedigger Jul 2012 #35
Unless, of course... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #36
You might be right. bluedigger Jul 2012 #44
I've seen people with fake hunting licenses of that nature on their SUVs and hats. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #37
Bingo! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #38
Actually, when I look at such things I don't see a hunting license. I see "I'M AN ASSHOLE!" HopeHoops Jul 2012 #45
While that may or may not be true... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #65
Yeah, I know. Even if it isn't a direct threat, it advocates it. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #89
The absolute very first thing findrskeep Jul 2012 #39
What did he say? I don't listen to Limbaugh. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #47
Me, too. ancianita Jul 2012 #53
It don't affect them ironman25 Jul 2012 #43
And you have left out John and Robert Kennedy JDPriestly Jul 2012 #46
And MLK Jr. OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #69
Racism is the black, rotted heart of America datasuspect Jul 2012 #48
Ok first of all I'm willing to bet the shooter is a parnoid schizophrenic. TNLib Jul 2012 #50
Any shooting involves the politics of why and how that gun was used. Lint Head Jul 2012 #51
You know this might come as a bit of a shock to you but Daniel537 Jul 2012 #54
This might come as a bit of a shock to you, but... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #68
Human evil is pathological in nature... Larry Ogg Jul 2012 #55
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #56
You certainly are angry, aren't you? Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #57
Loughner Is Crazy... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #67
Thanks for posting. Never forget. freshwest Jul 2012 #58
Gabby Giffords? That shooters friends said he despised George bush Zax2me Jul 2012 #79
I hear the same thing from Tea baggers all of the time... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #80
Good OP! Tumbulu Jul 2012 #82
Yes! Let's work on a list of words and phrases and ideas we should ban. Skip Intro Jul 2012 #84
I'll Settle for a Bona Fide Debate... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #85
agree (nt) Tumbulu Jul 2012 #92
this is the reason i'm voting for obama. nt tomp Jul 2012 #88
To win.... The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #93
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