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David__77

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108. There have been socialists in the Democratic Party for decades.

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:07 PM

Nov 2017

There have been Democratic congress members who were very favorable toward socialism or non-party socialist organizations. Ron Dellums was one. Being a socialist is not inconsistent with being an adherent of the Democratic Party.

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Democratic socialism is having a very good year at the ballot box [View all] sandensea Nov 2017 OP

Lee Carter is a Democrat. lapucelle Nov 2017 #1

A Democrat with democratic socialist views. sandensea Nov 2017 #2

Democrats had a great night in VA, including Democrat Lee Carter. lapucelle Nov 2017 #7

They sho' did! sandensea Nov 2017 #10

Solid pick up for us. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #3

Was a great night. sandensea Nov 2017 #4

I dont know much about him. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #9

He sounds a Democrat to me. SandyZ Nov 2017 #21

He's a Democrat, and ran (and won) as one. sandensea Nov 2017 #23

How? This is what I am asking. I am seeing three Op's trying to take Democratic wins SandyZ Nov 2017 #28

I consider them Democrats from head to toe. sandensea Nov 2017 #31

Its HIM that identifies as a Democratic Socialist Nevernose Nov 2017 #44

But he ran as a (big D) Democrat. sandensea Nov 2017 #46

Its confusing to me too Nevernose Nov 2017 #52

Well said. sandensea Nov 2017 #55

Their tax return makes for interesting reading. lapucelle Nov 2017 #95

"He happens to have social democratic views." NCTraveler Nov 2017 #67

I beg to differ. sandensea Nov 2017 #70

You presented a straw man with no true counterargument. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #73

No. You mentioned ol' Joe Manchin as an example of 'social democratic' views. sandensea Nov 2017 #74

"I wish he did actually have some." NCTraveler Nov 2017 #75

So are Democrats.... n/t greeny2323 Nov 2017 #5

I know, what is this about? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #8

These are Democrats (cap. D) with democratic socialist (small d) views. sandensea Nov 2017 #12

Did they endorse the Democratic nominee in 2016? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #13

I hope so. sandensea Nov 2017 #14

Well, that sounds very convincing....................................not. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #15

Sorry to hear that. sandensea Nov 2017 #16

Not if the purpose is to continue divide and attacking in order to gain ownership at our expense. SandyZ Nov 2017 #22

Hence, good faith. sandensea Nov 2017 #25

We are seeing it now, as ownership is being sifted from the Democratic Party and SandyZ Nov 2017 #29

Likewise. sandensea Nov 2017 #32

Nope. If you had any claim to progressivism last year you voted for the only progressive Ninsianna Nov 2017 #84

What if they didnt ? KTM Nov 2017 #20

Yes, because it shows if they have an agenda that is anti-DEM or not. Important to know. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #27

Seriously?? You would prefer they had not won ??? KTM Nov 2017 #35

Prefer who had not won? I am a DEM! DEMS FOR THE WIN! woohoo! Anti-DEMS, nah! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #42

Well, you JUST SAID you would oppose these DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. KTM Nov 2017 #47

WTH? I only oppose anti-DEMs and those whose agendas are anti-DEM. Why would I oppose them? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #49

Your posts are right above this; we can all read. KTM Nov 2017 #51

I support the DEM party. People who did not support or endorse or vote for HRC hurt our country. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #56

13 million Sanders voters in the Democratic Party primaries. Many fall into your listed categories. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #68

Yes, they're called Democrats. Ninsianna Nov 2017 #87

Who are "they" ? KTM Nov 2017 #93

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #63

I cant say what needs to be said here, but am glad you are saying it. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #81

Is this a new meme? I feel like I missed the memo! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #6

I think Sanders smartened up, but I"m not on his email Hortensis Nov 2017 #50

Yes. SandyZ Nov 2017 #53

Certainly DiBlasio wasn't an upset ...44 points ahead in the polls ehrnst Nov 2017 #79

For sure. An incumbent product of NYers. He also operates Hortensis Nov 2017 #92

Like the Stolen Valor people who wear the medals but delisen Nov 2017 #103

Phony, all right. 90% of the time their ISSUES agenda is the same as Hortensis Nov 2017 #117

I know, right LOL and my meme is simple Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #82

Which means of production is he proposing to have the Commonwealth take over? brooklynite Nov 2017 #11

Democratic socialists aren't communists, you know. sandensea Nov 2017 #17

Socialism (Noun) brooklynite Nov 2017 #18

Nor are these people communists - or socialists in the sense you're referring to. sandensea Nov 2017 #19

So, they are not socialist, but want to be separate from Democratic, within the SandyZ Nov 2017 #24

Sure - but we should give people at least a little benefit of the doubt. sandensea Nov 2017 #30

You mean like so many self-identified DSA gave Hillary? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #80

Thank you for saying that. /nt romana Nov 2017 #115

"...owned-regulated by the community..." CanSocDem Nov 2017 #97

No one is arguing otherwise. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #62

The OP suggests that Democratic Socialism (a philosophy inconsistent with capitalism)... brooklynite Nov 2017 #69

And the OP is correct. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #72

And my reply remains the same... brooklynite Nov 2017 #78

The OP is not. Ninsianna Nov 2017 #88

. ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #26

Thats a whole lot of laughing.... KTM Nov 2017 #37

Does he live in Colorado? sandensea Nov 2017 #39

He's a Democrat, and nothing in your article separates him from the party that voted for him. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #33

He is indeed a Democrat. sandensea Nov 2017 #36

Which means he's just a run of the mill Dem, one with the integrity to support and be a Ninsianna Nov 2017 #85

He identifies and was primarily supported The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #34

Exactly. sandensea Nov 2017 #38

I see nothing too "far" about his positions. Nothing. Many/most Dems stand for and with the same. SandyZ Nov 2017 #40

Same here. sandensea Nov 2017 #43

It's sad when someone who simply believes The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #41

I feel exactly the same way. sandensea Nov 2017 #45

When the Independent Socialist labeled Plan Parenthood as 'establishment' I have not been too SandyZ Nov 2017 #48

The old friendly fire problem. sandensea Nov 2017 #54

I have more of an issue with propaganda for a win at our expense. SandyZ Nov 2017 #57

The new deal was many many years ago...time to work to solve the problems of our day. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #101

Those are the right wing supporting assholes doing the GOP's Ninsianna Nov 2017 #86

Unfortunately you are completely mistaken about this. The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #94

Is that a new party in Virginia? George II Nov 2017 #58

No. He ran (and won) as a Democrat. sandensea Nov 2017 #59

Working class and Unions. The strong, vast majority of the Democratic Party and our position. SandyZ Nov 2017 #60

Its just JPR angst ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #66

Plenty of Democratic voters hold socialist or close-to-socialist views. I'm one of them. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #71

Jobs and unions. That covers about all in the Democratic Party. SandyZ Nov 2017 #83

And you can also take it to the bank that Millenial Dems like the rest of us see what the DSA Ninsianna Nov 2017 #89

That sort of confirms my thinking - but all of a sudden people (not necessarily you) have decided... George II Nov 2017 #76

Don't panic, y'all. Having been inspired by Bernie Sanders... Orsino Nov 2017 #61

Loyalty to the most powerful members of the Democratic Party trumps principle for some. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #64

Exactly what principle is being trumped? lapucelle Nov 2017 #96

Why? Simply being educated about what the Democratic Party is and has been Ninsianna Nov 2017 #90

All I am hearing are policy of the Democratic Party. SandyZ Nov 2017 #91

Creeping corporatism still keeps socialism a dirty word. Orsino Nov 2017 #98

Any example of where it was? brooklynite Nov 2017 #99

Not in this country. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #100

Are you saying that socialism is a dirty word that should be kept out of Dem messaging? n/t Orsino Nov 2017 #102

Messaging needs to be tailored to the State or district. In general, socialism works against Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #104

I cannot completely disagree... Orsino Nov 2017 #110

You can't call it socialism for the same reason we are now 'progressives' and not 'liberals'. The Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #112

K&R! Let's keep it up! YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #65

Was His A Convenient Use Of The Letter D After His Name Me. Nov 2017 #77

Yes, absolutely... I doubt half the folks that voted for him even knew of his association with the Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #105

Funny How That D After Your Name Will Get You Elected Me. Nov 2017 #107

Exactly. They can't run as a socialist because they will damn well lose. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #114

There have been socialists in the Democratic Party for decades. David__77 Nov 2017 #108

That is completely meaningless to me. Socialism still has a bad rep...and we need more than Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #113

Got it. David__77 Nov 2017 #119

You are exactly correct...lets not help the GOP demonize us...and socialism is a loaded term. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #123

But They Don't Run As Socialists Do They? Me. Nov 2017 #116

I dont get the point. David__77 Nov 2017 #118

Nice Try At Distraction Me. Nov 2017 #120

Ok. Im giving my viewpoint. David__77 Nov 2017 #121

Disagreement Is Part Of Politics Me. Nov 2017 #122

2 won in Allegheny Co DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #106

Key point in text: "a politics that pushes to the left on economic and social policy." David__77 Nov 2017 #109

Great to hear mvd Nov 2017 #111