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Xolodno

(6,383 posts)
55. I disagree.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:40 PM
Nov 2017

What you are arguing is communism. A command economy, in that, a command economy decides how many and what type. Socialism still allows for market forces to work, it just controls the factors of production when needed and can intervene when markets fail, whereas in a capitalist system, market forces control it...and when it fails, market forces are responsible for correcting it...which it may or may not do. Today, when that happens, our government attempts to influence the market, but not control it.

You are confusing the two systems of communism and socialism, they are not the same. Karl Marx stated clearly in the Communist Manifesto that the next economic system was socialism after of which, the next system to evolve from there would be communism (which I disagree with).

And yes, regulations with enough control over the the economy is socialism. The end result is the same, where be it by actual ownership or regulation. Your making a distinction via method and incorrectly equivocating that socialism = communism.

Capitalism is better than other systems greeny2323 Nov 2017 #1
Best system known to modern societies rufus dog Nov 2017 #12
This capitalism does not mean free market anarchy Amishman Nov 2017 #31
Oh, it works fantastically. Keeping it leashed is the issue. Hortensis Nov 2017 #2
There is a difference between capitalism and free enterprise but oligarchy conflates it for egbertowillies Nov 2017 #3
Actually, free enterprise is unbridled capitalism (aka "free market"). Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2017 #5
Capitalism requires growth and more growth. Always. shanny Nov 2017 #4
Bingo. It requires infinite growth on a finite planet. Garrett78 Nov 2017 #9
Yup. shanny Nov 2017 #10
Yeap. That was Karl Marx's main critisism in "Capital". Xolodno Nov 2017 #13
Socialism is not an economic construct. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #15
I agree. Xolodno Nov 2017 #19
Homework HoustonDave Nov 2017 #30
Only problem is, they aren't socialist nations. Xolodno Nov 2017 #41
Perhaps learning the definition of socialism would help.. EX500rider Nov 2017 #48
Odd...I'm pretty sure I implied tha Socialism means government.. Xolodno Nov 2017 #51
It is simple, if the government does not OWN the means of production then it is not Socialist. EX500rider Nov 2017 #54
I disagree. Xolodno Nov 2017 #55
No, socialism is a command economy, that's what you get when the govt owns the means of production. EX500rider Nov 2017 #56
That's incorrect. Xolodno Nov 2017 #57
Marx thesis was that eventually capitalizm would run amok, Alice11111 Nov 2017 #52
How long? HoustonDave Nov 2017 #32
We're there. shanny Nov 2017 #43
Is it capitalism that provides ad revenue on your blog? (Hint: why not post the content here.) n/t X_Digger Nov 2017 #6
... OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #16
I guess those sweet, sweet blog ad money-clicks aren't capitalist, that's different. betsuni Nov 2017 #23
I like this quote, probably from G.K. Chesterton: Ron Green Nov 2017 #7
Unfettered capitalism does not work uponit7771 Nov 2017 #8
Why did you ask two different questions? brooklynite Nov 2017 #11
Regulated capitalism is the answer Calculating Nov 2017 #14
Well-regulated capitalism works pretty well, but like a well-regulated militia ... Hekate Nov 2017 #17
n/t Fait Accompli Nov 2017 #18
+1 shanny Nov 2017 #28
No. Capitalism requires restraint marybourg Nov 2017 #20
No we can't. There nothing better when proper taxation and regulation is in place. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #21
it's worked the best compared to anything else that has been tried as long as there were regulations JI7 Nov 2017 #22
Nothing works. alphafemale Nov 2017 #24
It tends to concentrate the wealth at the top treestar Nov 2017 #25
Capitalism Works Better with Strong Unions louis c Nov 2017 #26
capitalism requires a middle-class . . . the GOP is killing it by their middle-class death wish DrDan Nov 2017 #27
Gasp...!!??!! CanSocDem Nov 2017 #29
Capitalism is great at creating wealth. It's absolutely shit-horrible in DISTRIBUTING that wealth. HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #33
"Capitalism is great at creating wealth. It's absolutely shit-horrible in DISTRIBUTING that wealth." NCTraveler Nov 2017 #36
No, we should not. ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #34
You can admit it but you would be wrong. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #35
you didn't get any economics classes in high school I take it snooper2 Nov 2017 #37
This! WillowTree Nov 2017 #49
Socialism is superior to Capitalism as a sustainable economic system. HOWEVER.... Yavin4 Nov 2017 #38
Well-regulated capitalism is the answer. dawg Nov 2017 #39
Capitalism works just fine. What the US has is not true capitalism.... scheming daemons Nov 2017 #40
capitalism is awesome Locrian Nov 2017 #42
Unregulated capitalism kills, yes. Orsino Nov 2017 #44
Capitalism works, but only for the benefit of very few DemocraticWing Nov 2017 #45
"suffering of the working class is necessary to keep the bourgeoisie in control" FiveGoodMen Nov 2017 #53
I think most people in the real world recognize that capitalism is a brutally inhumane system. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #46
lol, a link to your own site that runs ads. lol grantcart Nov 2017 #47
Capitalism is fine, its the Ayn Rand jerkoffs and pigs that warp it. VOX Nov 2017 #50
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