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I respectfully disagree. RDANGELO Nov 2017 #1
Biden is indeed a good choice... BUT... Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #2
Now that we everyone has seen Trump in office delisen Nov 2017 #21
I agree, America is going to want a known commodity. A father figure to heal the nation. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #26
Women still don't trust him after how he treated Anita Hill. And he'd need women. bettyellen Nov 2017 #121
What did Joe do? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #177
Wow, if you don't know I'm not going to tell you. The whole thing was an embarrassment and you need bettyellen Nov 2017 #180
Wow, okay... no need to be rude about it. I didn't remember there being an issue there... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #183
I agree. nt DesertRat Nov 2017 #190
They trusted her a lot just a few years earlier. Then came the non-stop smear campaign, which would StevieM Nov 2017 #38
So his vote for the Iraq war and his support for banks would not matter in his case...Interesting lunamagica Nov 2017 #58
I am a fan a Joe Biden, but your point is well made The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #171
Polls? Please. Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #79
The polls were right, she was going to win decisively. Then the polls changed after Comey rigged StevieM Nov 2017 #166
Just as Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #191
National polls were on the money Loki Liesmith Nov 2017 #202
Such a flawed memory Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #203
eidetic memory actually. Loki Liesmith Nov 2017 #204
Oh, to be young and ....let's just say naive. Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #205
People didnt trust Hillary because of the billion dollar industry, 25 yrs old, partially from Russia Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #101
The lies told by the corrupt FBI were a bigger factor than all of those things put together IMO. StevieM Nov 2017 #167
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #170
Sorry, but Santa is untouchable... please don't besmirch his name. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #178
I am in the Democratic party Egnever Nov 2017 #169
Huh. ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #189
Joe Biden, though not my top choice, IS authentic and has earned the right. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #176
Millions of middle aged and older women remember the Anita Hill hearings and have zero enthusiasm pnwmom Nov 2017 #198
That decision belongs to Joe Biden. TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #3
It is his decision...doesn't mean other people can't express an opinion about it. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #12
It wouldnt be a statement about the next generation at all. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #19
LOL, Part of an ongoing series! Collect them all. FSogol Nov 2017 #44
HA! Good one! :-D NurseJackie Nov 2017 #60
Yes I said that about the Anita Hill issue. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #56
"You've already decided to support the guy, haven't you? " NCTraveler Nov 2017 #61
I sometimes use the same structure. That doesn't mean anything. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #63
LOL! "It's a waste of time" ... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #65
I have criticized Joe in the past as well. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #71
I'm not "talking bad" about anyone, and I don't have a template Ken Burch Nov 2017 #74
There goes Anita again. Again. Again. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #77
You're acting like I'm lying or something. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #109
Just stop bashing democrats. moda253 Nov 2017 #148
I'm not. I said nothing negative about Joe. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #152
Quote "I always say what I really mean." sheshe2 Nov 2017 #130
for several reasons Ken Burch Nov 2017 #135
If another poster raised a valid point... moda253 Nov 2017 #149
I believe you... I'm always struck by the "mindreaders" here who cannot look past simple mistakes... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #179
thanks. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #181
Exactly!! And you're welcome. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #184
Wow! And... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #75
I love Joe, and I am a woman. If he is the nominee, I will happily vote for him. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #78
And I'll support him if he's nominated. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #84
I believe. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #137
It's not possible to just silence people. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #141
It is remarkable to watch the world spinning out of control Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #151
Too many people here heaven05 Nov 2017 #155
Dear Goddess... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #159
++ heaven05 Nov 2017 #161
I assume that Biden, Sanders and Warren will all run. StevieM Nov 2017 #168
OK...but there shouldn't be any great push from above in the party Ken Burch Nov 2017 #173
I agree but I would argue that nothing like that happened in 2016 either. StevieM Nov 2017 #174
It is a very interesting list, and I respect the work you put together in creating it. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #175
The reason I listed the mayors is because they have both talked about running. StevieM Nov 2017 #185
If Warren were to run, I would especially say Bernie should not run. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #186
I see what you are saying. I just figure that a lot of candidates are going to overlap each other. StevieM Nov 2017 #187
i watched the hearings as well and i didnt get that from joe.. samnsara Nov 2017 #108
OMG! You're right! A pattern and a theme. (I wonder why.) NurseJackie Nov 2017 #67
Thank you for posting this pattern Gothmog Nov 2017 #73
It's not a pattern. I posted this because there were suddenly all these threads pushing for Biden Ken Burch Nov 2017 #85
The pattern is very very clear Gothmog Nov 2017 #87
HOLY SHIT, I see an AGENDA Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #104
that whole heaven05 Nov 2017 #157
Some of our best progressive politicians have lost previous campaigns and battles. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #158
I cannot understand heaven05 Nov 2017 #160
Nice The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #172
LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #24
It's created as a backdoor way for people to t-off on Biden. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #39
No. It's just fair comment about where are party should go. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #62
Hmmm BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #69
I posted in response to lots of other threads pushing a Biden candidacy. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #89
Yet here you are talking about 2020. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #86
In response to threads pushing a presidential candidate when we shouldn't be talking about that yet. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #88
Please. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #97
It is weird to me because to me you do this Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #99
not really heaven05 Nov 2017 #156
You don't just "respond". You treat me like I'm your mortal enemy. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #103
You stated I am fixated on you. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #125
OK, I withdraw the term fixated. I apologize for using a term Ken Burch Nov 2017 #133
You keep getting hammered by many here. moda253 Nov 2017 #150
It can't be impermissible simply to say that a particular person shouldn't run for president. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #153
It seems it is roughly Biden's thinking too muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #112
I believe that is a measured response TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #114
Hillary's campaign was about the future but white men did not want it JI7 Nov 2017 #4
I campaigned for Hillary after she was nominated. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #8
Nobody did that... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #25
That is ultimately Biden's decision, but I think in the end he will agree DFW Nov 2017 #5
What happens next? Full equality of women. delisen Nov 2017 #6
And I agree with you about full equality for women. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #7
Your words. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #92
That part is not true. BOTH of them backed full equality for women. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #98
In the age of Trumps misogyny and racism what message does running a white male send? Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #9
It sends the message that some white men are enlightened feminists oberliner Nov 2017 #11
Biden has a lot of POC appeal Cosmocat Nov 2017 #22
Not really. EffieBlack Nov 2017 #46
Sends the same old message it has always sent. Orsino Nov 2017 #146
He should definitely run oberliner Nov 2017 #10
Why not just turn it over to the next generation? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #13
Why should Biden feel compelled to surrender? TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #16
I didn't say he should "surrender". Ken Burch Nov 2017 #107
You're splitting hairs and playing word games. This doesn't help... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #110
Yeah, right. TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #113
Some folks value age and experience oberliner Nov 2017 #17
"Why not open things up to a variety of strong options?" Yes... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #28
Finally, you get to the crux of your various responses. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #126
LOL NurseJackie Nov 2017 #140
Agreed, that is my typical response. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #142
Emphasis on DEMOCRATS... ehrnst Nov 2017 #144
I suppose that I could explain it to you. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #147
+1 TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #15
Sure he should. 8 years of trump would be go great. Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #82
Completely disagree - 4 years of 45 Cosmocat Nov 2017 #14
I would love to have his voice in the primary. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #18
"Start with Biden in order to get where you really want to go." BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #41
I'm pretty sure they are operating off of a template. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #42
I'm not in any "they". Ken Burch Nov 2017 #50
Template seems to be working. Stick with it. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #54
Indeed it is! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #57
I don't have a template. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #66
NCTraveler is not being hostile to you... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #70
"I've done nothing to merit your hostility. " NCTraveler Nov 2017 #72
Why does it matter that I said things about her sixteen months ago? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #90
This is great. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #91
I've changed my mind about her and apologized for what I said in the past. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #93
I brought it up once. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #95
You threatened to repost what I posted then. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #105
How is reposting something that you posted previously a threat? TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #122
I don't trash Democratic politicians. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #124
Your posts prove otherwise and most of us realize the game you are playing. TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #127
So happy to see I'm not alone in my observations. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #59
Topic line hedging feelings over the yearning to silence a popular Democrat. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #20
I honestly LIKE Joe. He's been a great Dem. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #52
You are VERY observant and VERY astute... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #55
Completely Agree!! cally Nov 2017 #23
The next election should be half politics/half psychology. The country is damaged. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #27
Against TRUMP age not so much a factor.... ollie10 Nov 2017 #29
Agree. We need to go with the next generation left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #30
He's free to run in the Primary if he wishes, just as you are free to vote for another candidate emulatorloo Nov 2017 #131
I don't believe he could win Denis 11 Nov 2017 #31
That went away after the VP...and he helped President Obama tremendously in 12 Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #80
You seem to be describing my early preference for 2020, Pete Buttigieg. Nt stevenleser Nov 2017 #194
OK, give him a chance. Denis 11 Nov 2017 #199
Our next President will need to know how all governing bodies worked before the lsos randr Nov 2017 #32
I agree with you 100%. You have expressed my sentiments and thoughts precisely. Thank you. WheelWalker Nov 2017 #34
I couldn't disagree with you more, comrade. WheelWalker Nov 2017 #33
IMO (solely) I believe that by election time the vast COLGATE4 Nov 2017 #35
Pass the torch, Joe Achilleaze Nov 2017 #36
While I doubt that Biden will or should be the nominee, I think he should define his version of what karynnj Nov 2017 #37
He should run if he chooses. So should anyone else. moriah Nov 2017 #40
The SNL sketch was right on the money. Atman Nov 2017 #43
just my opinion bdamomma Nov 2017 #64
Trump managed...it is not about age...and I will vote for whoever wins. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #81
Ryan's "young" but he has the soul of an venal old asshole emulatorloo Nov 2017 #134
I disagree strongly Gothmog Nov 2017 #45
Id prefer someone who didnt try to drive a stake in desegregation and allow Thomas on the SC EffieBlack Nov 2017 #47
Everyone got put on the court in those days. It was and should be the president's choice. Advice and Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #83
No, they didnt EffieBlack Nov 2017 #162
Fortas broke the rules...and Bork Used drugs...and that is two in how many years? Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #163
Bork was blocked because he used drugs? Okaaay. EffieBlack Nov 2017 #164
He smoked Marijuana...and admitted it and yes it was used to block him. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #192
No. EffieBlack Nov 2017 #193
Yep you are correct... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #200
If he's a winner, we run him. Iggo Nov 2017 #48
Biden this very morning said it best, Let's see where America is in a year and a half. Sunlei Nov 2017 #49
That's my point. It should all be left 'til after 2018. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #111
People love him. He will be on many interviews, help Ds in the midterms, promote his new book & Sunlei Nov 2017 #138
Any Democrat that wants to run should run. joshcryer Nov 2017 #51
Donald's age didn't stop him treestar Nov 2017 #53
and of course being qualified for bdamomma Nov 2017 #68
people will run...the voters will choose...and then we vote for the nominee...we have no control Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #76
Step off, Joe. Ken the Burch has UNANOINTED you. betsuni Nov 2017 #94
Oh dear! LOL! :-D You crack me up! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #102
+1 TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #128
Ouch! Nooooooooo sheshe2 Nov 2017 #139
Joe could handle dotard in a debate bathroommonkey76 Nov 2017 #96
Hillary pulverized trump in all debates lunamagica Nov 2017 #116
So you are suggesting Hillary should run again? bathroommonkey76 Nov 2017 #117
What I'm saying is that winning a debate won't win an election lunamagica Nov 2017 #118
I don't believe that at all bathroommonkey76 Nov 2017 #119
I agree with all she had to deal with, but I'm not sure the next Dem candidate won't lunamagica Nov 2017 #120
Winning the debates, among other successes, had HRC ready to win by a decisive margin. StevieM Nov 2017 #165
Joe would make a great president. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #100
awhile back i would have agreed with you but trump has ruined America.. samnsara Nov 2017 #106
We need to nominate the individual who has the best change of beating ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #115
I agree Awsi Dooger Nov 2017 #123
Age has nothing to do with it, but message does. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #129
That is a far better expression of what I tried to express in the OP than my own words. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #136
He's free to run in the primary if he wishes, just as you are free to support another candidate emulatorloo Nov 2017 #132
Well, Biden would trounce Trump...What other Dem would? n/t blitzen Nov 2017 #143
True. He failed to win the nomination twice. Came in 5th behind HRC in Iowa in 2008. ehrnst Nov 2017 #145
The only people that get to decide that LiberalFighter Nov 2017 #154
His time was 2016. jalan48 Nov 2017 #182
and we need candidates who have a track record of fighting for progressive change yurbud Nov 2017 #188
Hes not my choice but I think he should run. He would be a great stevenleser Nov 2017 #195
I don't think he's right for 2020. But if he is nominated I'll be super happy Bucky Nov 2017 #196
Yes, he should budkin Nov 2017 #197
I'm keeping my eye on Martin O'Malley. vlyons Nov 2017 #201
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