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In reply to the discussion: A fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between economic and social justice. [View all]KPN
(15,638 posts)22. It has been postulated ... ?
Lost me right there, and in my view your entire argument with that broad sweeping statement.
Your construct frames this as an either-or decision. Social vs economic justice. It's neither; rather, it's both.
Unless we come to grips with this, it's hard for me to imagine the Democratic Party having sustained success. This isn't about the horns of a dilemma or who's ox will get gored. It's about a fair, just and equal society overall -- and that means everybody.
For those who think the Democratic Party is and has worked well and hard enough for labor and the middle class, there are plenty of Democrats, former Democrats and non- affiliated who would say otherwise based on the past 35-40 years.
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A fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between economic and social justice. [View all]
Garrett78
Nov 2017
OP
Not backwards. BOTH effects are synergistic in a vicious circle. Avoid "chicken or egg" trap.
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#5
Why pick one? If you do that, you tell part of your base to wait for their dire needs to be met.
Squinch
Nov 2017
#8
Woosh. "Pick one" as a STARTING point for ANALYSIS. Then pick the OTHER and see how it is a CIRCLE.
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#13
Yes, not deep, it's OBVIOUS. But you can't find anything I've written in thread that says "wait"
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#19
Clearly my post is entirely analysis, not prescription. I did not write your false quote.
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#29
Bzzzt. They & you complain about prescriptions when the post has no prescriptions. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#35
Read my post #5. It is nothing about prescribing remedies, hence NO PRIORITIZATION therein possible
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#60
And that's the argument I've been making the whole time...that we don't have to choose
Ken Burch
Nov 2017
#42
In practice, it is usually difficult to separate economic power from political power:
struggle4progress
Nov 2017
#7
We have not yet "ultimately won" the fights against racism, sexism and xenophobia.
Squinch
Nov 2017
#9
Agreed. And we don't have to put aside the economic struggle to win those fights
Ken Burch
Nov 2017
#43
Reparations not a solution. 1) Reconciliation, 2) Truly equal justice, 3) Economic support
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#11
Reconciliation rests on recognition of the wrongs and admission that they WERE wrongs.
Ken Burch
Nov 2017
#44
The idea to prioritize the fight for economic injustice seems 2b another trickle down theory.
Madam45for2923
Nov 2017
#18
So perhaps the GOP party will cease to exist and the Dem party will break into two parties?
Irish_Dem
Nov 2017
#21
Yeah, I misread or should say read more into your "postulated" statement than you intended
KPN
Nov 2017
#62
The 1% who control 38% of the wealth in this country would love to make this about race I am sure.
jalan48
Nov 2017
#36
Doesn't mean that things aren't about race. Wealthy black men still get stopped for
ehrnst
Nov 2017
#37
I agree and as a society we need to work to stop racial discrimination and injustice.
jalan48
Nov 2017
#40
Good luck with that approach. I'm sure you'll find people who like to be told what to do.
jalan48
Nov 2017
#47