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freshwest

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28. I'm not sure about the profit angle, but my report from my corporate pension was coming more often.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jul 2012

And they were threatening, more or less, to terminate the plan as they are no longer being paid in the same amount as they are sending out. They were sending the notices out more regularly and I figured it meant that my company pension would not be coming, after all.

It was one of the terms of the negotiated contract, that if the corporation (which kept changing its name and headquarters) was bringing in less income than was being paid to current retirees out of the accumulated trust fund, the amount would be reduced for everyone.

I don't see how this had to do with profits as the OP says, because they need the profits from current business to keep going, don't they?

The trust fund currently supports about a 100K people, their dependents and medical care. Iit is anticipated to support over a quarter million in the next three years. They indicated if incoming was reduced to a certain percent, since it was already 25% less than outgoing, they would send a lump payment and that would be the end of their obligation. Depressing, but there's not as much money flowing around as there was.

They began to refer to our rights to seek full or partial payments of what they would not be able to pay through the federal program, the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation. It has a deficit from having to guarantee the pensions of people whose corporations have come on hard times, been sold out, gone out of business or otherwise are not making their payments.

Suddenly my pension has been returned to the exact same company name I started with, at the same city I worked in, after all these years. It says this notice of the plan 'replaces and supersedes all the summaries of material modifications' that had been sent, that said we might have to go to the PBGC. The talk of turning us over to the PBGC has been deleted and also the talk of terminating the plan suddenly stopped.

If Obama or this legislation had anything to do with it, I'm grateful, because I need that pension. It mentioned several times about additional coverage for people who were disabled. So I truly don't know if the sky is falling or not here. Better informed people than me will say.

Good luck for your family in getting theirs. Frankly, I won't really believe it until I get that first check...



Like Matadors, distracting bulls from attacking, our legislators wave a benefit in front of us cyberpj Jul 2012 #1
We are under assault, and that assault is bipartisan. woo me with science Jul 2012 #2
We live in an age of policy-driven catastrophes. hay rick Jul 2012 #5
"plicy-driven catastrophes" = exactly. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #9
Shock doctine. woo me with science Jul 2012 #43
! bvar22 Jul 2012 #42
+1000000 woo me with science Jul 2012 #44
The goal of the 1%'ers n2doc Jul 2012 #3
The only way out is to destroy the total value of their wealth. Zalatix Jul 2012 #4
Sad but true. 99Forever Jul 2012 #10
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #6
the worker is under attack here and they will Rise up lovuian Jul 2012 #7
kr & fuck them all. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #8
"A new law will let companies contribute billions of dollars less to their workers' pension funds" HiPointDem Jul 2012 #11
Sucks that nobody gets a pension anymore. Still, have you SEEN the 2012 Kia Soul? SIRIUS radio! Romulox Jul 2012 #12
lol HiPointDem Jul 2012 #13
Snerk! Brickbat Jul 2012 #16
do you want to ask mineralman out on a date or something? your obsession is wierd. dionysus Jul 2012 #22
Says the guy following me around from thread to thread! Romulox Jul 2012 #23
i read a thread, i see another post where you talk shit about your crush.. don't put that shit on me dionysus Jul 2012 #24
Listen, I'd reciprocate, and post sweaty, needy responses to YOU, if you EVER posted on any issue. Romulox Jul 2012 #25
I was just about to ask you the same thing. woo me with science Jul 2012 #46
i just find it childish to randomly talk shit about people in threads target isn't posting in. dionysus Jul 2012 #47
Self-delete bvar22 Jul 2012 #51
MineralMan really got under your skin, didn't he? NickB79 Jul 2012 #30
I know, right? Stick it to American workers, Mineral Man! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #38
PS: Who in hell are you? Romulox Jul 2012 #39
oooh, he must be a "stalker"!1!! dionysus Jul 2012 #48
I read through the thread you were referring to NickB79 Jul 2012 #50
Pension Funds are Where Equity Funds Go to Die mckara Jul 2012 #14
Whoa! I thought that said 'penises' at first. randome Jul 2012 #15
*snicker* n/t We are Devo Jul 2012 #32
The bi-partisan shamelessness of our corporate and private equity corporatocracy. PufPuf23 Jul 2012 #17
2 things: dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #18
Low interest rates. hay rick Jul 2012 #19
and, again I say, by now this should not be a surprise. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #20
Messing with pensions should be a death penalty offense. aquart Jul 2012 #21
They have been coming after our pensions for a long time liberal N proud Jul 2012 #26
I'm not sure about the profit angle, but my report from my corporate pension was coming more often. freshwest Jul 2012 #28
2005. hay rick Jul 2012 #29
No but probably some managment from there. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #31
US Air? hay rick Jul 2012 #34
I would rather not share the company name liberal N proud Jul 2012 #36
Thanks. hay rick Jul 2012 #37
Yes they are trying to commit mass murder, LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #27
I fully expect my company to stop paying my pension and turn it over to the PBGC NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #33
The vulture capitalist scumbags have been stealing our pensions for a while now. Initech Jul 2012 #35
Listen guys. We may have no pensions, but it's got a 10 years/100,000 mile drivetrain warranty! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #40
That's why I took all my pension money as a lump sum nichomachus Jul 2012 #41
Did you put it in a 401k? Swede Jul 2012 #45
I was able to roll it over nichomachus Jul 2012 #49
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