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Response to OverseaVisitor (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:34 PM

23. Agreed. I grew up in a state where the primary source of energy was natural gas. Not nuclear, coal,

Or any of the others, it was used for everything. There are safe ways to get natural gas and it has a long history:

http://naturalgas.org/overview/history.asp

Fracking is not the only way to get natural gas. Obama did not say he loves fracking, full steam ahead. He said within regulations.

The problem has been states with tea bagger legislators and governors who are giving frackers full rein to do this irresponsibly. So I also say give Obama a break and investigate, not go with the increasingly rightist NPR.

I'm dead set against fracking when water tables are liable to be pollued. The problem is that the local people are divided. Anyone has watched the movie Gasland, knows this conflict. Some want to sell their rights to the minerals beneath their land, with no regard for the effects on their neighbors. The producer claims the people were ignorant and misled. IDK.

You can listen to a PBS discussion here:

http://www-tc.pbs.org/now/rss/media/NOW-613.mp3

Or read a page on the film here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_Land

Unfortunately, the industry is now pushing this and must be regulated until it is literally stopped from doing this in all but the safest situations. But than that, we must defeat the Koch and others who threatening to take over completely. We piss and moan about a lot of stuff and don't have solutions.

We have not as a country done what other countries have done to make use of methane and energy from other sources, we don't have to kill ourselves over this one. And just in case, anyone thinks I am an apologetic for the fossil fuel and other energy industries, having grown up around this industry and been associated and well informed by members of the OCAW in years past, I'll say this.

I never, ever, give these guys the benefit of the doubt. As far as I'm concerned, they are guilty until proven innocent, and I'm not likely to change my mind.

It is a filthy business, implicated in the overthrow of regimes such as in Iran, the propping up of tyrants, and going to war. It destroys the environment and steals the natural bounty of the Earth from people across the globe, it is part a cabal that never gets enough.

But we are not transformed yet into a society that is ready to do without it. So Obama has to keep all the options open, but remember, he has not agreed to Keystone but it is being shot up in our faces at every single bill the baggers are putting through, like cutting funding from Planned Parenthood and suppressing the vote in America. That's NOT Obama's fault it is our fault for not voting these regressives out.

Ignorance on the history of the use of natural gas does not advance the fight against fracking, and not offering solutions and ensationalist pieces smearing Obama is not helpful. A reasoned case could be made, but this is simply, by virtue of the title which NPR put on it, is dishonest. EOM, as this is just MHO.

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