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sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:07 PM Oct 2017

John Kelly Is Sad Women Are No Longer Sacred. Women Are Not That Sad. [View all]

Fuck John Kelly

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Trump’s chief of staff is missing the point.

Kelly, the White House chief of staff, made the comment during a news conference Thursday afternoon that focused on President Donald Trump’s bungled phone call to the widow of a slain soldier. Kelly lamented that, unlike in the good old days, some things no longer get respect ― like Gold Star families, religion and women.

“When I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country,” he said. “Women were sacred and looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore, as we see from recent cases.”

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Kelly, however, seems to be missing the point of this conversation, which is that many women have no desire to be treated as separate and “sacred.” They simply want to be acknowledged as human beings who deserve basic respect and equality.




Kelly was born in 1950, meaning when he was “a kid growing up,” women couldn’t legally get an abortion or open credit cards in their own names. They also did not have access to the morning-after pill, couldn’t always get birth control if they weren’t married, could not marry other women, were not allowed to fight on the front lines and had little recourse for workplace sexual harassment. Marital rape was not illegal. And Kelly was born before the civil rights movement, meaning he grew up in a time when people of color, particularly women of color, did not have the same freedoms he did.

This imaginary era of “sacred” womanhood included plenty of discrimination against women; they just couldn’t always talk about it. The biggest change between then and now is not in the way men treat women but in the position women occupy within society. Since the 1950s, women have entered the workforce in droves. They have become breadwinners, CEOs and politicians. And they have become increasingly vocal about their experiences with sexual violence and discrimination, including in the Marine Corps, where Kelly served as a general

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Oh Johnny, hey Johnny, no Johnny we are not going back to your good old days. We are not going to back to YOUR utopia of those days. Fuck you.
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Hes so fucking full of shit. ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #1
Yes he is... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #6
True shenmue Oct 2017 #11
Bingo. SharonClark Oct 2017 #38
Kelly is a lot like Trump. Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #2
Older white men hold about 95% of the positions in the White House BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #5
This! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #55
K&R and Tweeted yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #3
These "back in my day" politicians need to get out of government. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #4
Notice they are all male. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #17
LOL. nt Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #36
Sacred equaled possessions in that era. That's not sacred to me. herding cats Oct 2017 #7
I am with you, herding cats. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #19
I only have one child and she's a female. herding cats Oct 2017 #32
I see nothing selfish with what you said. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #35
Love your posts, sheshe2! This nails it! spooky3 Oct 2017 #8
Hey spooky. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #21
Lawrence O is making similar points with devastating clarity spooky3 Oct 2017 #31
I will catch the rerun tomorrow. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #37
Yes...just when you think it cant get any worse... spooky3 Oct 2017 #64
Here we are doing the house work in high heals...as if! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #67
He said it perfectly. appleannie1943 Oct 2017 #57
Yes, I agree. Fuck you John Kelly. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #9
Let me fix that SACRED shit for ole John boy ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #18
I was born in 1943. As woman, I want to know what the hell he remembers. appleannie1943 Oct 2017 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #52
Great post. Nt raccoon Oct 2017 #63
I remember the mercuryblues Oct 2017 #69
And yet Kelly works for Trump. lapucelle Oct 2017 #12
Well of course we were asking for it. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #26
Seriously someone need to ask WTF he means by that Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #13
I think he misspoke Bettie Oct 2017 #14
He did not misspeak. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #28
And to him "Sacred" Bettie Oct 2017 #61
I hate all of these old fucks Starry Messenger Oct 2017 #16
excellent post, SheShe2. Right on the money. MLAA Oct 2017 #20
What BS, claiming that "women were sacred" in the 1950s and '60s. The discrimination against, highplainsdem Oct 2017 #22
Suppressing women never did & never will make America great. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #23
These people really need to stop living in the past. Initech Oct 2017 #24
He's not treating Frederica Wilson very "sacred" n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #25
Apparently he only meant some women. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #27
He gave his soul to Trump. riversedge Oct 2017 #53
He forgot patriotism and democracy were sacred blueinredohio Oct 2017 #29
Sacred, my ass. Nay Oct 2017 #30
Lawrence O'Donnell is eviscerating Kelly csziggy Oct 2017 #33
This -- and you said it before I did. Thanks. Hekate Oct 2017 #47
Lawrence was spot on, and I was glad he kept the text "empty barrel" spiderpig Oct 2017 #58
Love Your Title Me. Oct 2017 #39
A whole load of bunches to you as well, Me. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #40
Like my housebound SCVDem Oct 2017 #41
great post Sheshe :) massive K&R JHan Oct 2017 #42
Thanks JHan. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #43
That's like "putting women on a pedestal" NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #44
Woah. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #45
Lawrence O'Donnell reamed him a new one over that, as they grew up in the same neighborhood... Hekate Oct 2017 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #54
He is a first class asshole. erinlough Oct 2017 #48
Another backward glance with no basis in reality. 58Sunliner Oct 2017 #49
Ummhmm. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #50
He can kiss my liberated a** Lifelong Protester Oct 2017 #51
Not much you can do on top of a pedestal Retrograde Oct 2017 #56
Yet if we fell from that pedestal... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #68
Great post! We were held sacred if we "smiled more"; weren't too opinionated"; AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2017 #59
EVERYTHING Kelly claims ought to be "sacred" has been DEFILED by TRUMP: Women; WinkyDink Oct 2017 #60
In those not so good all days, SOME selected women raccoon Oct 2017 #62
From Betty Bowers Gothmog Oct 2017 #65
Lol sheshe2 Oct 2017 #66
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