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In reply to the discussion: So many people here defending Columbus... [View all]ExciteBike66
(2,336 posts)163. Your point was that there are other more important issues, and I agree.
That said, you still have not explained why we must ignore every issue but the "most important" until that "most important" issue is solved.
Or, do you agree with me that we can focus on more than one issue at a time?
Or are you arguing something else? Please clarify.
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Did this guy exaggerate when he said Columbus gave him a native woman as a slave?
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#11
Says you. But you can't document that. Read what he wrote. He opposed slavery.
L. Coyote
Oct 2017
#108
I suppose the Russians were also behind the desire to remove Confederate statues? nt
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#5
Hey, at least you are conceding that I am not a Russian agent! It's a start!
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#181
TrumpRussia, TrumpRacism are both far more important. We have limited resources.
sharedvalues
Oct 2017
#182
It was 1492. It was a different world back then. History is was history is.
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#7
We committed massacres in Korea and Viet Nam in the 1950s and the 1960s based on the
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#15
More than a "fool's errand," most of this is a wired-in hostility toward one's own
Hortensis
Oct 2017
#61
Westmoreland was a general in the military fighting in a foreign war 50 years ago.
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#138
For better or for worse, the guy is credited with discovering america. I doubt that will change.
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#141
I am not trying to change that, so much as trying to make sure we are not honoring the man
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#155
If you are not interested in changing the name, then you are implicitly defending the man.
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#10
How far do you want to take this? Columbia is the poetic name for America - you think
Midwestern Democrat
Oct 2017
#110
America wiped out the Native Americans, yet we still celebrate this country. Correct? n/t
USALiberal
Oct 2017
#17
"Why do we think Columbus is suddenly such a hot topic?" Because Columbus Day is tomorrow!
Towlie
Oct 2017
#43
Columbus doesn't divide Dems. Everybody knows he was a racist POS, as were a lot of
octoberlib
Oct 2017
#88
I'm not a Columbus defender and am glad we (as a nation) are moving away from Columbus Day.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
Oct 2017
#21
Do you care about the people who do care about it? Because we're on your side, right?
Iggo
Oct 2017
#60
Russia has nothing to do with this. It's about the false narrative they've been brain washing
YOHABLO
Oct 2017
#70
Oh, oh I get it. My post count is lower than yours so I need not have an opinion!
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#159
If it hadn't been Columbus, then who? Henry the Navigator? Captain Cook? And if so, would any
demosincebirth
Oct 2017
#53
Careful or you'll be accused of being a Russian spy for speaking the truth about Columbus
jcmaine72
Oct 2017
#74
1. Dresden. Hiroshima/Nagasaki. Vietnam. Iraq. 2. So basically you're saying that anywhere one human
WinkyDink
Oct 2017
#81
I always find it kind of bizarre to see historical figures judged by values that were not held
milestogo
Oct 2017
#82
It makes no difference what he "discovered" ... what does matter is what he did and was...
Ferrets are Cool
Oct 2017
#93
I'm not "defending Columbus." I'm defending our right to not have really stupid fights ...
Hekate
Oct 2017
#94
That's most of human history and all cultures at one time or another. There is no land...
Hekate
Oct 2017
#146
How many righteous people who get tomorrow off as a Holiday will be taking it?
brooklynite
Oct 2017
#107
If we're going to start being scrupulously honest about our history, let's work backwards
WinkyDink
Oct 2017
#114
Ha! looks like the biggest defense against your OP is to call you a Russian and the best argument
lunasun
Oct 2017
#135
It is disgusting -- it is EXACTLY like having a Happy Hitler Day in Germany
obamanut2012
Oct 2017
#137
Every holiday, the righteous and pure tell me why not to engage or solemnize for my own good.
LanternWaste
Oct 2017
#142
You are speaking of your individual experience of the holiday, which is fine.
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#161