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Did this guy exaggerate when he said Columbus gave him a native woman as a slave?
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#11
Says you. But you can't document that. Read what he wrote. He opposed slavery.
L. Coyote
Oct 2017
#108
I suppose the Russians were also behind the desire to remove Confederate statues? nt
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#5
Hey, at least you are conceding that I am not a Russian agent! It's a start!
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#181
TrumpRussia, TrumpRacism are both far more important. We have limited resources.
sharedvalues
Oct 2017
#182
It was 1492. It was a different world back then. History is was history is.
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#7
We committed massacres in Korea and Viet Nam in the 1950s and the 1960s based on the
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#15
More than a "fool's errand," most of this is a wired-in hostility toward one's own
Hortensis
Oct 2017
#61
Westmoreland was a general in the military fighting in a foreign war 50 years ago.
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#138
For better or for worse, the guy is credited with discovering america. I doubt that will change.
Trust Buster
Oct 2017
#141
I am not trying to change that, so much as trying to make sure we are not honoring the man
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#155
If you are not interested in changing the name, then you are implicitly defending the man.
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#10
How far do you want to take this? Columbia is the poetic name for America - you think
Midwestern Democrat
Oct 2017
#110
America wiped out the Native Americans, yet we still celebrate this country. Correct? n/t
USALiberal
Oct 2017
#17
"Why do we think Columbus is suddenly such a hot topic?" Because Columbus Day is tomorrow!
Towlie
Oct 2017
#43
Columbus doesn't divide Dems. Everybody knows he was a racist POS, as were a lot of
octoberlib
Oct 2017
#88
I'm not a Columbus defender and am glad we (as a nation) are moving away from Columbus Day.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
Oct 2017
#21
Do you care about the people who do care about it? Because we're on your side, right?
Iggo
Oct 2017
#60
Russia has nothing to do with this. It's about the false narrative they've been brain washing
YOHABLO
Oct 2017
#70
Oh, oh I get it. My post count is lower than yours so I need not have an opinion!
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#159
If it hadn't been Columbus, then who? Henry the Navigator? Captain Cook? And if so, would any
demosincebirth
Oct 2017
#53
Careful or you'll be accused of being a Russian spy for speaking the truth about Columbus
jcmaine72
Oct 2017
#74
1. Dresden. Hiroshima/Nagasaki. Vietnam. Iraq. 2. So basically you're saying that anywhere one human
WinkyDink
Oct 2017
#81
I always find it kind of bizarre to see historical figures judged by values that were not held
milestogo
Oct 2017
#82
It makes no difference what he "discovered" ... what does matter is what he did and was...
Ferrets are Cool
Oct 2017
#93
I'm not "defending Columbus." I'm defending our right to not have really stupid fights ...
Hekate
Oct 2017
#94
That's most of human history and all cultures at one time or another. There is no land...
Hekate
Oct 2017
#146
How many righteous people who get tomorrow off as a Holiday will be taking it?
brooklynite
Oct 2017
#107
If we're going to start being scrupulously honest about our history, let's work backwards
WinkyDink
Oct 2017
#114
Ha! looks like the biggest defense against your OP is to call you a Russian and the best argument
lunasun
Oct 2017
#135
It is disgusting -- it is EXACTLY like having a Happy Hitler Day in Germany
obamanut2012
Oct 2017
#137
Every holiday, the righteous and pure tell me why not to engage or solemnize for my own good.
LanternWaste
Oct 2017
#142
You are speaking of your individual experience of the holiday, which is fine.
ExciteBike66
Oct 2017
#161