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TheMastersNemesis

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Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:10 PM Oct 2017

I Had To View 30 Bodies In Vietnam To ID Our Own. Country Needs To See The Reality Of What Happened [View all]

The media is sanitizing the true horror of this brutal attack. Not seeing the reality of death and destruction blunts real debate about gun violence. It is not that you need to dwell on the gore. I saw the reality of war in Vietnam. What I saw in Vietnam 49 year ago is almost exactly what you would see on that scene. You would see dead and dying people in pain and misery even screaming for help. And it is ugly and needs to be seen And the public is being coddled in a way that is really wrong. Seeing the real horror would cause needed real debate.

All we seem to see is just distant pictures of the scene. There is no blood. There are no visible victims. No signs of the wounded. Nothing from the suffering. There are people who will carry bullets and fragments the rest of their lives. There are victims who will live with all kinds of disfiguring and disabling injuries. The dead and hurt are anonymous unseen and only just numbers. We will never understand until we see the true horror of what happened. For the most part we will not ever see the names of the killed and wounded. They will fall into obscurity. Only the gunman's name will be remembered.

Meanwhile the NRA, right wing, GOP, and other operatives who will make up false stories. Attack the critics and sensible people calling for action. There will even be death threats against the victims or families who speak our or demand action and change. And they will go an with their crap and be able to hide behind the true terrible reality.

Such sanitation allows the NRA and GOP to get away with its distortions, lies, and manipulation.

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I agree with you. LisaM Oct 2017 #1
yes, my nephew served in the Gulf War lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #2
The gory pictures are not hard to find. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #3
That picture, which I saw last night, early this morning, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #7
All I have seen are people sitting and bodies lying on the ground like extras in a movie. Kablooie Oct 2017 #30
If all someone has sharp_stick Oct 2017 #4
Most people do have sympathy but not empathy since they never BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #17
Same thing as how we sanitize our wars in far away places. We just sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #5
Thank you, TMN. Such an important issue. democrank Oct 2017 #6
I Clearly Remember Waling Into That Tent W/30 Dead Soldiers In It. We Had Lost 3 KIA. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2017 #9
My heart breaks for what you and others went through. I mean that. democrank Oct 2017 #12
Fortunately I Have Never Been Troubled About What I Saw. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2017 #14
I'm another widow of a Vietnam vet ban1941 Oct 2017 #19
If the media would do a continuous count, adding the new numbers from each shooting to the totals Dustlawyer Oct 2017 #21
My hat is off to you. leanforward Oct 2017 #29
There are a lot of babylonsister Oct 2017 #8
I read that they got up and ran. dem4decades Oct 2017 #34
My ex's mom took all his photos from there (66 - 68) and burned them. raven mad Oct 2017 #10
I agree completely. I thought they should have shown the Sandy Hook victims "as found." Vinca Oct 2017 #11
There was one mother that appeared to feel that America should see her child. dem4decades Oct 2017 #33
100% agree and then some benld74 Oct 2017 #13
March members of Congress passed those bodies. Duppers Oct 2017 #15
I'm a physician and I've seen more dead bodies than I care to remember mainer Oct 2017 #16
Absolutely correct. Media sanitizes violence. gordianot Oct 2017 #22
First responders to Sandy Hook reported that many LuckyLib Oct 2017 #31
"...the Sandy Hook deniers should have been forced to see the bodies of those dead children." 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #37
Yes, our physical bodies are merely "containers". roamer65 Oct 2017 #40
I'm with this thread. leanforward Oct 2017 #18
I am too...seeing the carnage gopiscrap Oct 2017 #36
100% agree with you. Until it is REAL to them, they cna deny that it doesn't exist. iluvtennis Oct 2017 #20
They're not just getting away with distortions,... citizen blues Oct 2017 #23
Its all sanitized, the longer its thats way the more it will go on... Historic NY Oct 2017 #24
I totally agree with you Greywing Oct 2017 #25
You're right. It's all intellectual horror and feels like watching a movie. Kablooie Oct 2017 #26
I always thought they should have put up a sign facing the NRA showing the dead children kimbutgar Oct 2017 #27
It is hard to agree with this, but I do. logosoco Oct 2017 #28
The only problem here is.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #32
Every day around the globe children are exposed to the gore & violence of war Historic NY Oct 2017 #39
To many, this is about Turbineguy Oct 2017 #35
I have often speculated that LaPierre, for all his... 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #38
But they're getting all the tearful testimony they can find misanthrope Oct 2017 #41
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