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Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
45. Again, Obama not clean. But Mr. Clean when compared to alternative.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:40 PM
Jul 2012

President Obama doesn't have a stellar record when it comes to shipping jobs overseas.
But Romney?
He's another planet of shipping.
It's not the lesser of two evils here - there is a big difference.
But I think Obama could do a lot better - I expected better.

every time I read "Free Trader" I think, "Free Traitor" fascisthunter Jul 2012 #1
Same here n/t OhioChick Jul 2012 #4
+1,000 Scuba Jul 2012 #8
Well I'm voting for a pro-NAFTA guy in November. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #13
Which one? Dragonfli Jul 2012 #19
I know I'm going out on a limb here compared with most of DU, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #22
History has proven Al Gore wrong. That's easy to see, with hindsight, and Al won't mention NAFTA, Romulox Jul 2012 #24
Yeah. The "giant sucking sound" sure has sucked a lot of jobs out of amandabeech Jul 2012 #33
yes, Obama.... but free trade still sucks fascisthunter Jul 2012 #68
It is no accident that the free trade apologists woo me with science Jul 2012 #20
What if one is pro-trade but anti-"indefinite detention, warrantless surveillance, attacks on Occupy pampango Jul 2012 #21
Anyone who reads DU *and* the news on a regular basis woo me with science Jul 2012 #30
As you have been told previously, FDR reversed course.. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #67
Absolutely. They all seem to go hand-in-hand. Marr Jul 2012 #32
they are right wingers as far as I am concerned fascisthunter Jul 2012 #69
Others might call them Kool-aid drinkers, since it sounds hughee99 Jul 2012 #74
when he backs right leaning policies fascisthunter Jul 2012 #86
Yes, but if Obama switched positions on all of the above, hughee99 Jul 2012 #87
Well said. I think you have articulated what a lot of people have sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #92
And not just manufacturing jobs! arcane1 Jul 2012 #2
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jul 2012 #3
1890 orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #5
'Hugely popular' in theory. But the reality is that people don't buy American in great numbers. randome Jul 2012 #6
This is why you need policies to support domestic industry - otherwise it's a race to the bottom. reformist2 Jul 2012 #9
Lack of alternatives. Zalatix Jul 2012 #10
They sell out at fast as we get them in stock. xmas74 Jul 2012 #65
We always look at country of origin, and if there IS a "made in America" option, we buy it. peacebird Jul 2012 #11
No one has enough money to vote with their wallet. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #14
that's what national policy is for. you enact policies that make it cheaper for domestic producers HiPointDem Jul 2012 #18
I agree with what you guys are saying about setting the right policy. randome Jul 2012 #25
AFL-CIO and labor groups are providing Made in America Lists jtown1123 Jul 2012 #66
You were saying? Zalatix Jul 2012 #97
If the TPP is enacted "Buy American" will be illegal Vincardog Jul 2012 #7
Both of my family's vehicles were made in America. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #12
I don't want it all "Made in America". raouldukelives Jul 2012 #15
Well That Eliminates Ford, GM, Chrysler, MicroSoft, Apple, Nike.... momsadem Jul 2012 #16
Time to reopen those domestic factories. Zalatix Jul 2012 #23
I would prefer to concentrate on opening high skilled high tech production here and leave grantcart Jul 2012 #27
No. Not just no, but HELL no. Zalatix Jul 2012 #31
Not me. If I'm buying "high tech" goods, the LAST thing I want to see is "Made in Mississippi". Romulox Jul 2012 #35
Many Ford and GM vehicles are assembled in the US and have many US made parts. amandabeech Jul 2012 #34
This post is 100% nonsense. It's just what Toyota drivers tell themselves to feel better. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #36
No Romulex, you're wrong. It's not "Nonsense" momsadem Jul 2012 #37
Way to walk it back! Just upthread, you said: "Well That Eliminates Ford, GM, Chrysler". Nonsense. Romulox Jul 2012 #61
kr. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #17
Nonsense. Well over 50% of the cars sold in this country are foreign nameplates. Romulox Jul 2012 #26
Made in the USA for American markets by either foreign or domestic companies, not a problem. Zalatix Jul 2012 #42
Union? Whatever (I guess???)! Romulox Jul 2012 #60
Why not? Unions rock. Zalatix Jul 2012 #71
Not a single of foreign car companies that assemble in the US are unionized. Hard to spin that. Romulox Jul 2012 #72
True. It's better than assembling them in Mexico or China. Zalatix Jul 2012 #75
Plenty of cars made in the USA by UAW workers. It's hard to justify a scab car, period. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #77
I was saying they also need to make the car parts here. Zalatix Jul 2012 #78
They should have done this long ago Marrah_G Jul 2012 #28
Hint, hint.... Lionessa Jul 2012 #29
Buy American won't be popular SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #38
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #40
You know SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #43
And we're sick of your US Chamber of Commerce-approved arguments. Zalatix Jul 2012 #46
It's not Chamber of Commerce to state the fact that U.S goods are often more expensive SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #48
It is a US Chamber of Commerce argument because it is a half-truth at best. Zalatix Jul 2012 #51
Buy American is popular because people have seen the horrible cost of NOT hiring Americans. Zalatix Jul 2012 #41
My response to Odin2005 applies to you as well SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #44
Your hackneyed and horribly inaccurate arguments are getting old. So, again, we are even. Zalatix Jul 2012 #47
Show me where I made a pro-offshoring statement SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #50
You said it right here, twice. Zalatix Jul 2012 #52
It's amazing how many times you can be wrong in one thread SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #53
It's amazing how many times you can refuse to own up to what you said. Zalatix Jul 2012 #55
You're wrong again, but keep on tryiing SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #56
You're still in denial. And now you're being dishonest. Zalatix Jul 2012 #57
What is old about $8 is more than $5? treestar Jul 2012 #80
It is an old smokescreen tactic, and a half-truth at that. Zalatix Jul 2012 #83
Are you in agreement with point 5? treestar Jul 2012 #90
Do you really have to ask if I approve of what happened in #5? Really? Zalatix Jul 2012 #91
At this point you're agreeing with me treestar Jul 2012 #93
It doesn't bother me if we're agreeing on some things. Zalatix Jul 2012 #94
Rec Sea-Dog Jul 2012 #70
China and others already have tariffs against us. Plus they devalue their currency. Zalatix Jul 2012 #73
btw your saying its ok for trade barriers not us Sea-Dog Jul 2012 #95
Trade barriers have happened. Zalatix Jul 2012 #96
The Free Traders will do what they usually do, scream "racist" and "xenophobe". Odin2005 Jul 2012 #39
A little hyper-sensitive there. I see the accusation of the use of "racist" and "xenophobe" by pampango Jul 2012 #49
So you deny that free traders have used that accusation? Really? Zalatix Jul 2012 #54
Uh, you are one of the Free Traders who imply that Protectionism is xenophobic. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #59
What's funny? NOBODY mentioned you, but you still managed to appear to take offense. Romulox Jul 2012 #63
Like someone else here once said, throw a tennis ball into a pack of dogs Zalatix Jul 2012 #79
that depends on how it is expressed treestar Jul 2012 #81
Again, Obama not clean. But Mr. Clean when compared to alternative. Zax2me Jul 2012 #45
He needs to summon the ghosts of Teddy Roosevelt and FDR. Zalatix Jul 2012 #58
The Obama admin gave HALF A BILLION $$$ to Fisker to make cars in Finland. Romulox Jul 2012 #62
Fair Trade please. ananda Jul 2012 #64
It only works if we actually buy American. aquart Jul 2012 #76
It's damn near impossible, too treestar Jul 2012 #82
Catch-22. People lose jobs because of outsourcing. Can't afford to buy American because too costly. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #84
This is also why the Government fights wage increases for foreigners. Zalatix Jul 2012 #85
"Workers of the WORLD unite" is still something to strive for. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #88
Hard to do when the free traders are saying "but things will cost more if we do that!" Zalatix Jul 2012 #89
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