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34. In a Washington Post opinion piece yesterday law professor Lawrence Tribe included the following...

The framers suggested one solution to the prospect of such abuse. During a Virginia debate over whether to ratify the Constitution, George Mason worried that the president might “pardon crimes which were advised by himself.” James Madison replied that a president who did so could be impeached.

From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-presidential-pardon-power-is-not-absolute/2017/09/18/09d3497c-9ca5-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html?utm_term=.7213caa25945

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John Dean just told Don Lemon that experienced federal prosecutors don't [View all]	mobeau69	Sep 2017	OP
Can 45 pardon him?	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#1
There's always that.	mobeau69	Sep 2017	#2
For federal crimes he may have committed of course he could. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#4
Is treason pardonable?	world wide wally	Sep 2017	#9
A few people have actually received Presidential pardons for treason. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#10
The only real restriction on the pardon power is that it cannot interfere with impeachment.	tritsofme	Sep 2017	#13
Confederate Soldiers were pardoned. nt	Gore1FL	Sep 2017	#15
He couldn't pardon him for a conspiracy that he himself was involved in. nt	pnwmom	Sep 2017	#14
Sure he could. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#18
This is legally disputed	sharedvalues	Sep 2017	#19
That clause means the President can't cancel an impeachment...	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#21
That clause means what SCOTUS interprets it to mean	sharedvalues	Sep 2017	#22
I don't think there's any reasonable doubt what that clause means in regards to impeachment. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#24
"Likely SCOTUS will have to interpret it." We've seen how that works when...	bagelsforbreakfast	Sep 2017	#28
If he did, he'd be guilty of obstruction of justice. Also, his Presidential pardon power	pnwmom	Sep 2017	#20
"If he did, he'd be guilty of obstruction of justice." - that could very well be true and would	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#23
I agree. He would open himself to charges. Then we can speculate if Trump can "self-pardon".	Midnight Writer	Sep 2017	#25
In a Washington Post opinion piece yesterday law professor Lawrence Tribe included the following...	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#34
One of the stories tonight mentioned NY indictment	unc70	Sep 2017	#6
We know Mueller has been working closely with NY AG SChneiderman on Trump state corruption stuff	Amaryllis	Sep 2017	#8
That is where I get confused, between the states' and federal government's jurisdiction.	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#12
Just depends on the type of crime. E.g., murder is local, but it's Federal if Civil Rights are	WinkyDink	Sep 2017	#36
This isn't the point. Manafort may answer the question, what did Rump know	Hortensis	Sep 2017	#35
Flip baby flip!	flamingdem	Sep 2017	#3
Right now I just hope he isn't slipped Russian poison	Corvo Bianco	Sep 2017	#5
Wow, you never know	flamingdem	Sep 2017	#7
He won't flip.	Jakes Progress	Sep 2017	#11
No pardon for State of NY indictments	unc70	Sep 2017	#16
Then they better get NY charges	Jakes Progress	Sep 2017	#38
This message was self-deleted by its author	StevieM	Sep 2017	#17
Oops, sorry. I was a teacher and should know better but my tablet	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#27
Actually, I screwed up. I replied to your post rather than the OP.	StevieM	Sep 2017	#30
OK, I feel better. I have been screwing up so much lately.	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#32
We are navigating a tough society these days. Don't be too hard on yourself.	StevieM	Sep 2017	#33
Not to worry! It's a sign o' the times!	WinkyDink	Sep 2017	#37
Sing like a canary, Manafort	Hekate	Sep 2017	#26
Is it just me or does Manafort dress like Gotti? n/m	bagelsforbreakfast	Sep 2017	#29
This is a good post and very informative. Unfortunately, I am not a normal human being.	StevieM	Sep 2017	#31

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