If he did, he'd be guilty of obstruction of justice. Also, his Presidential pardon power (Reply #20)

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pnwmom (104,105 posts)

20. If he did, he'd be guilty of obstruction of justice. Also, his Presidential pardon power

doesn't extend to state prosecutions. It's very likely that some of Manafort's crimes could be prosecuted as state crimes in NY, which has strong financial laws.

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38 replies	Author	Time	Post
John Dean just told Don Lemon that experienced federal prosecutors don't [View all]	mobeau69	Sep 2017	OP
Can 45 pardon him?	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#1
There's always that.	mobeau69	Sep 2017	#2
For federal crimes he may have committed of course he could. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#4
Is treason pardonable?	world wide wally	Sep 2017	#9
A few people have actually received Presidential pardons for treason. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#10
The only real restriction on the pardon power is that it cannot interfere with impeachment.	tritsofme	Sep 2017	#13
Confederate Soldiers were pardoned. nt	Gore1FL	Sep 2017	#15
He couldn't pardon him for a conspiracy that he himself was involved in. nt	pnwmom	Sep 2017	#14
Sure he could. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#18
This is legally disputed	sharedvalues	Sep 2017	#19
That clause means the President can't cancel an impeachment...	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#21
That clause means what SCOTUS interprets it to mean	sharedvalues	Sep 2017	#22
I don't think there's any reasonable doubt what that clause means in regards to impeachment. n/t	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#24
"Likely SCOTUS will have to interpret it." We've seen how that works when...	bagelsforbreakfast	Sep 2017	#28
If he did, he'd be guilty of obstruction of justice. Also, his Presidential pardon power	pnwmom	Sep 2017	#20
"If he did, he'd be guilty of obstruction of justice." - that could very well be true and would	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#23
I agree. He would open himself to charges. Then we can speculate if Trump can "self-pardon".	Midnight Writer	Sep 2017	#25
In a Washington Post opinion piece yesterday law professor Lawrence Tribe included the following...	PoliticAverse	Sep 2017	#34
One of the stories tonight mentioned NY indictment	unc70	Sep 2017	#6
We know Mueller has been working closely with NY AG SChneiderman on Trump state corruption stuff	Amaryllis	Sep 2017	#8
That is where I get confused, between the states' and federal government's jurisdiction.	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#12
Just depends on the type of crime. E.g., murder is local, but it's Federal if Civil Rights are	WinkyDink	Sep 2017	#36
This isn't the point. Manafort may answer the question, what did Rump know	Hortensis	Sep 2017	#35
Flip baby flip!	flamingdem	Sep 2017	#3
Right now I just hope he isn't slipped Russian poison	Corvo Bianco	Sep 2017	#5
Wow, you never know	flamingdem	Sep 2017	#7
He won't flip.	Jakes Progress	Sep 2017	#11
No pardon for State of NY indictments	unc70	Sep 2017	#16
Then they better get NY charges	Jakes Progress	Sep 2017	#38
This message was self-deleted by its author	StevieM	Sep 2017	#17
Oops, sorry. I was a teacher and should know better but my tablet	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#27
Actually, I screwed up. I replied to your post rather than the OP.	StevieM	Sep 2017	#30
OK, I feel better. I have been screwing up so much lately.	BigmanPigman	Sep 2017	#32
We are navigating a tough society these days. Don't be too hard on yourself.	StevieM	Sep 2017	#33
Not to worry! It's a sign o' the times!	WinkyDink	Sep 2017	#37
Sing like a canary, Manafort	Hekate	Sep 2017	#26
Is it just me or does Manafort dress like Gotti? n/m	bagelsforbreakfast	Sep 2017	#29
This is a good post and very informative. Unfortunately, I am not a normal human being.	StevieM	Sep 2017	#31

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