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Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:33 PM

re: SEC filings —the charge is that Romney is a LIAR not a felon [View all]

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Some folks seem to think that the Obama campaign said that Romney is a felon.

It did not. Mitt may be a felon on some other matter, but that is not the position of the Obama campaign. The campaign said that Romney is a liar, and that if his claims of disassociation from Bain circa 2000-2002 were true then his SEC filings would be false, which would be potentially felonious.

Either Romney was “misrepresenting his position” at Bain to the SEC, “which is a felony,“ or he was ”misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people,” she said during a conference call Thursday morning.


Nobody in the Obama campaign believes that Romney was misrepresenting his status to the SEC by pretending to be Bain CEO in 2002 even though he had left in 1999. Romney really was Bain CEO then.

He is a stone LIAR in repeatedly claiming to voters and journalists (not the SEC) that he had no association with Bain at that time.

The felony accusation was made in the alternative... Romney is a liar, and if he is not a liar then he is a felon.

(Like if he claimed to be 35 years old but his drivers license says 64... if the claim is true then he must have perjured himself when applying for his license, but nobody believes he's really 35.)

On Edit (to clarify): There are two different filings to agencies with similar acronyms. Misrepresentation of who the CEO happens to be in an SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) filing is a serious matter, being both perjury and potentially some sort of securities fraud. (Saying who your CEO is is the sort of information investors are supposed to be able to rely on.)

Willful and knowing misrepresentation of one's resume on an FEC (Federal Election Commission) financial disclosure form is perjury, but I wouldn't expect a prosecution on that one. (It would get down to some semantics, as most perjury prosecutions do.)

The Obama campaign's use of the word "felony" was in the context of SEC filings.

It is fine as politics to say Mitt perjured himself on his FEC disclosure documents, but that is not what the Obama campaign was talking about, the subject of the OP. (And I have not, to date, heard the "P" word from the Obama campaign in the context of FEC disclosure, though that may be coming.)

So to repliers who were talking about FEC, not SEC, I take your point.

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