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R B Garr

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139. Oh, your observation has been coming true all over the place. Any comments
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:11 PM
Sep 2017

about costs or other practicalities and good Democrats are accused. So tiresome and predictable.

Why in the WORLD would he put forth a bill like this, ESPECIALLY this and not Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #1
Read? Reading? HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #7
Why dont you copy and paste for us the details of how it is paid for. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #9
Why don't you just go ahead and read it. HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #16
I am waiting for someone to copy and paste the detailed explanation here Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #17
I just read it ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #45
is there some magic way to do it that would not require tax revision? Egnever Sep 2017 #70
I read it to, and I am not even sure if the revenue he is suggesting is enough. There are a lot of still_one Sep 2017 #92
OK, well if it does describe in detail how to pay for it, and if the problem Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #122
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #141
Here HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #142
Perfect, and it will work, but not until Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #143
I didn't see any of that in what was proposed on Wednesday. In fact none of that... George II Sep 2017 #145
Guess that would take too much effort. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #126
Ok I read it and it involves raising taxes substantially and does not address the 20% gap Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #118
It's just aspirational symbolism for now greeny2323 Sep 2017 #2
I agree with that.... but.... Adrahil Sep 2017 #29
Thank God we have Schumer and Pelosi trying to fix DACA and the ACA. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #113
Bingo. You touched on the only thing that matters BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #44
Aspirational for what....a successful bill or something else? George II Sep 2017 #52
To be fair, 45 has floated a lot of stuff without basis in reality. forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #97
Ding Ding. Ding! peggysue2 Sep 2017 #98
Over 100 house members signed on to Conyers bill delisen Sep 2017 #102
Republicans control congress right now. JI7 Sep 2017 #3
The GOP has already started: factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #5
Just to be clear HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #12
MOre likely the poster is showing you now what at least half the country believes Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #19
I think the smart part is making people want it first. Demit Sep 2017 #34
You were provided a link to how to pay for it and you refused to click on it. scipan Sep 2017 #138
The problem is that Bernie's bill.... Adrahil Sep 2017 #31
There are options HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #32
Not good enough. Adrahil Sep 2017 #33
Legislators don't pass laws based on "options". George II Sep 2017 #146
Bernie doesn't know how to build consensus. LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #58
Just like when the fucking John F. Kennedy talked about going to the moon Gore1FL Sep 2017 #86
Right? beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #87
Thanks! ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #119
Other countries have single payer MyNameGoesHere Sep 2017 #120
See his website for more specifics. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #144
The responses to that tweet are awesome. n/t TCJ70 Sep 2017 #36
Yeah they are! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #83
Thanks! Those were fun to read! nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #90
Uh HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #4
:) Donkees Sep 2017 #15
So Sanders require Trump tax reform to match up with his "options"..its just empty words. factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #18
Well lookie there... beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #23
Rep. Conyers Funding of H.R.676 - Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #25
There you go HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #27
You're kidding, right? All that says is "taxes, if passed in the future, will pay for it." SunSeeker Sep 2017 #114
The same way they fund wars and tax cuts. dogman Sep 2017 #6
The status quo is all we have for the foreseeable future. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #13
And they wonder why Dems lose. dogman Sep 2017 #20
I stand with Senator Booker, Senator Harris, and Senator Gillibrand! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #8
But the REPUBLICANS DON'T LIKE IT! And they're TWEETING! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #14
In some alternate universe, this exact same proposal has been raised in the Senate, but without Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #112
Yeah, that's where it looked like this was headed -- no costs attached. I think that's R B Garr Sep 2017 #10
I expect the "concern troll" label will be applied tymorial Sep 2017 #28
Oh, your observation has been coming true all over the place. Any comments R B Garr Sep 2017 #139
Its not serious. Its more bullshit. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #11
Yep, it will definitely cost usa few seats in 2018 because of how stupid it is. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #21
What a real Democrat looks like HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #22
I stand with Senator Cory Booker! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #24
Cory Booker 2020! R B Garr Sep 2017 #93
This has been my thought too tymorial Sep 2017 #26
WOW HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #30
Cory Booker (D-N.J.) voted no on prescription drug price legislation factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #35
Looking for redemption? dogman Sep 2017 #46
Booker is a co-sponsor of the Affordable and Safe Prescription Drug Importation Act tammywammy Sep 2017 #94
In Canada, imported drugs are subject to strict regulations. lapucelle Sep 2017 #115
Very disappointing to say the least. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #127
And then he voted yes on an amended proposal a week later- out of the loop? bettyellen Sep 2017 #136
I agree with you. It really is interesting.nt chowder66 Sep 2017 #39
Yup. Can't imagine why. pangaia Sep 2017 #60
Most people already pay a lot in taxes for their healthcare. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #37
right, Some seem to forget the expenses that will disappear or be greatly reduced... pangaia Sep 2017 #63
I mentioned this in another thread: guillaumeb Sep 2017 #66
Conservatives in other countries are.. what... moderates? here. pangaia Sep 2017 #76
I would not have to move too far. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #79
We would be better off rallying around a public option. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #38
This is absolutely the way to go. Half the nation wouldn't want to give R B Garr Sep 2017 #40
Medicare-for-all would be the ultimate freedom of choice... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #41
How would it be the ultimate freedom of choice if you can only choose from one plan? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #42
What kind of argument is that? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #48
It's a good argument. That's what it is. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #50
No they do not. leftofcool Sep 2017 #59
that's the smart thing to do at the moment. JHan Sep 2017 #111
Nice dose of reality, JHan. brer cat Sep 2017 #123
Shoring up the ACA should be the focus. JHan Sep 2017 #135
Ain't it about time you picked our side on this one? crosinski Sep 2017 #43
I'm all in favor of starting a war in Iraq or Afghanistan but darn there's no funding for it. Nt lostnfound Sep 2017 #47
Good one! JoeOtterbein Sep 2017 #55
Same thing was said about Obamacare. We gotta start Chimichurri Sep 2017 #49
Not surprising. We can do anything and everything. Don't worry about how to pay for it! George II Sep 2017 #51
I saw that to pay for it we would need an eleven percent payroll tax and a nine percent income tax. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #53
Or call it F35 Stealthcare. dogman Sep 2017 #56
Payroll taxes are 15.3%, from the first dollar earned. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #62
Your numbers are off Egnever Sep 2017 #65
I will wait for the CBO Score DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #77
Now you will wait? Egnever Sep 2017 #82
Am I allowed to elaborate ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #84
My self-pay premium for my employer based plan while unemployed was $1600+/month. dogman Sep 2017 #85
COBRA insurance is obscenely high. Under my plan you could buy into Medicare. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #96
According to Bernies proposal those numbers are off. Egnever Sep 2017 #61
Or Berniecare might end up costing nothing due to decreased administrative overhead Not Ruth Sep 2017 #78
Some estimates have been as high as 26%. George II Sep 2017 #80
I am going to do the prudent thing and wait for peer reviewed numbers. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #88
Excellent analysis. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #64
But not close to resembling the truth. Egnever Sep 2017 #67
As long as your Medicare is covered, right? n/t QC Sep 2017 #105
What does that have to do with this? George II Sep 2017 #109
I paid into medicare for more than 50 years comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #128
The organized attacks on Bernie and all that he does are interesting. CentralMass Sep 2017 #54
LOL. pangaia Sep 2017 #69
Seriously. I guess criticizing Booker, Harris, Franken and Gillibrand is okay now? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #116
Is there an actual piece of legislation or is it still in the proposal stage? lapucelle Sep 2017 #57
Funny how that got left out, eh? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #71
Hey, it worked for the GOP BayouBengal07 Sep 2017 #68
Your post is BS too INdemo Sep 2017 #72
This Right Here..... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #104
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #73
One would also hope that you would show how their savings in health care spending Egnever Sep 2017 #74
in my gut i questioned the whole thinig.. i didnt even listen to samnsara Sep 2017 #75
I am willing to wait for a CBO score or a score from a dispassionate researcher. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #81
LOL. Gee who could have predicted that he'd do for health care what he did for Hillary. ucrdem Sep 2017 #89
You're not alone. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #95
Thank you! ucrdem Sep 2017 #99
Ouch! comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #129
Regardless of the facts of this particular bill. In regards to health care Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #91
Why would there need to be tax increases? Kleveland Sep 2017 #100
"Call them taxes if you wish"- that's what they would nd Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #117
How do all of those first world countries do it? panader0 Sep 2017 #101
Universal coverage and single payer aren't synonymous. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #110
Well Ontario has a 15% Goods and Services tax. MichMan Sep 2017 #130
Yes, please provide a balanced plan relayerbob Sep 2017 #103
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #106
It doesn't look like it's meant to become law BainsBane Sep 2017 #107
You want to see our details?? We don't need no stinkin' details!! ucrdem Sep 2017 #108
typical heaven05 Sep 2017 #121
The issue i have with this, is that today, true health care costs are hidden form taxpayers Calista241 Sep 2017 #124
I'm glad Rep. John Conyers isn't embarrassed by Sen. Sanders in their joint effort. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #125
They have been friends and allies for decades. QC Sep 2017 #133
... Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #134
Thanks for this. This is a great move by Sanders AND Conyers nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #137
Sanders has an extremely poor record of legislative success. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #131
Blah, blah, blah. KPN Sep 2017 #132
it's not the first time Bernie has been lax on details Skittles Sep 2017 #140
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