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In reply to the discussion: I don't understand Bernie's Medicare for all [View all]KPN
(15,642 posts)38. I am on Medicare. Medicare Part B which costs me $107/month
covers most of my outpatient costs (approximately 70%). Part A includes most treatments for cancer whether administered as in-patient or not -- costs me zip. I don't have Part D, but have supplemental insurance that covers generic drugs almost completely and non-generic 50%. (And that's without the huge economy-of-scale benefit that would occur regarding pharmaceuticals with single payer!) My out-of-pocket costs per year are ridiculously low -- about $4,000 max. I haven't paid one penny beyond the very small deductible in the past two years -- not a penny.
What's not to like about that?
Single payer makes economic sense. Yes, there are challenges, but lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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Premiums would be replaced by big tax increases. Probably worth it, but I keep thinking about
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#6
As I understand it, the necessary tax hike was more than any legislator had the guts to
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#10
I think California is plenty big, and they've been a leader in healthcare reform. But they
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#13
No, but California even investigated getting a waiver to pool current Medicare, Medicaid, etc.,
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#19
Please explain how an employer might lose a "tax break" if they didn't have to pay as much toward
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#23
Medi-Cal is a pretty big system -- 12.5 million beneficiaries. And California has been a the
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#40
Have you ever consider the job losses involved? I tell you single payer won't work.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#21
People hate taxes and will not go for it...particularly those with employer based insurance.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#22
Look, I get it. But Hillary isn't president so you don't have to push to her "Never gonna happen"...
TCJ70
Sep 2017
#26
First of all, in theory it might. Two different single payer bills will involve different details.
StevieM
Sep 2017
#46
She was referring to the upcoming administration. She wasn't making a sweeping statement about
StevieM
Sep 2017
#49
You're picking out words in order to make a point that is not consistent with what the debate was.
StevieM
Sep 2017
#51
If you get health care from your employer, you don't see yourself paying for premiums...
brooklynite
Sep 2017
#31
I think a good number of folks here don't understand how Medicare works. Currently we pay into
still_one
Sep 2017
#7
As I understand it, a Medi-Gap or supplemental policies sold after January 1, 2006, do not include
still_one
Sep 2017
#41
We need to see the plan scored by CBO or a dispassionate and independent think tank.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2017
#36
BINGO! Because we KNOW the government is REALLY good at keeping tabs on where money goes
snooper2
Sep 2017
#58
Why isn't his financing plan included in the bill? Senators, both Democratic and republican....
George II
Sep 2017
#57
The GOP will use this to demonize us and we will lost our chance in 18 and 20...stupid and more
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#55