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TBF

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11. In terms of lack of political choice true -
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jul 2012

but the Soviet Union didn't have the unemployment we have so the citizens were actually better off in that regard.

Yeah.. ananda Jul 2012 #1
k and r nashville_brook Jul 2012 #2
Is Truth. Octafish Jul 2012 #3
in a sad irony amfortas the hippie Jul 2012 #4
I've said for years that our leaders learned the wrong lessons. knitter4democracy Jul 2012 #5
And pretty soon, we'll all be buying everything from one store - Wal-Mart. reformist2 Jul 2012 #6
k&r raouldukelives Jul 2012 #7
The whole helpless and powerless spiel gets old... bhikkhu Jul 2012 #8
That could have been a good joke, but you lost me at "purely democratic constructs" Occulus Jul 2012 #10
In the sense that they are chosen by the people in general bhikkhu Jul 2012 #14
'which essentially makes them almost purely democratic constructs' marmar Jul 2012 #12
You're right, I always choose Lockheed for my warplane needs. JackRiddler Jul 2012 #20
I get your point, but nevertheless corporations are the sum of people's choices bhikkhu Jul 2012 #25
K&R n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2012 #9
In terms of lack of political choice true - TBF Jul 2012 #11
Soviet citizens had to stand in long lines to buy very basic items Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #15
Yes I saw the propaganda movies in 6th grade TBF Jul 2012 #16
A couple of my geography professors actually took a tour of the USSR with Intourist Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #19
perestroika (abandonment of central planning) was already implemented by 1985 BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #22
I don't think you can say perestroika was "already implemented" by 1985 Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #24
The Sovoets had their horrors DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #27
Work for a corporation and try signing on to DU. joshcryer Jul 2012 #32
"Red baiting"? Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #33
I know what you're doing TBF Jul 2012 #36
Next thing you'll be telling me, Stalin didn't have any purges Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #42
I'm not getting into this with you. TBF Jul 2012 #45
otoh BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #17
Central planning was very efficient, it was just focused on the wrong things. white_wolf Jul 2012 #39
K&R. Thanks for posting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #13
They only want what's best for us. kenny blankenship Jul 2012 #18
There's no fundamental difference between state communism and unfettered capitalism. joshcryer Jul 2012 #21
you're the worst BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #23
I dunno - from this vantage point it looks to me like the TBF Jul 2012 #37
You still have the option to not shop at Wal-Mart. joshcryer Jul 2012 #38
In one of his videos Chomsky makes a similar point. white_wolf Jul 2012 #40
Chomsky recognizes that state communism / USSR is capitalist at heart. joshcryer Jul 2012 #43
kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #26
heh RobertEarl Jul 2012 #28
I've been seriously thinking, there seem to be problems once ANY kind of organization becomes snot Jul 2012 #29
It's the Iron Law of Oligarchy. white_wolf Jul 2012 #41
Very interesting, thanks! snot Jul 2012 #46
K&R patrice Jul 2012 #30
Yup, many of us have made similar observations nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #31
I do what I can quaker bill Jul 2012 #34
Excellent article krispos42 Jul 2012 #35
America has changed aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #44
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