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bearsfootball516

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39. Yeah

Reply to Lee-Lee (Reply #36)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 02:31 PM

Sep 2017

I give credit for trying to find a solution, but this would be a bad, bad idea.

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Single seniors should marry DACA kids [View all] Generic Other Sep 2017 OP

Why only seniors? leftstreet Sep 2017 #1

I figured they needed young people in their lives Generic Other Sep 2017 #5

It's not a safe haven. It's a felony. See below. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #14

Oooh I am so scared Generic Other Sep 2017 #24

The problem with this kind of "civil disobedience" The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #43

800,000 applications would hurt the system more than any individuals Generic Other Sep 2017 #58

Civil disobedience is normally intended as a protest against an unjust law. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #63

Law not intended to prevent marriages of convenience then Generic Other Sep 2017 #64

Marriages of convenience are illegal if the "convenience" is the evasion of immigration laws. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #66

Looks like some states are taking it to court Generic Other Sep 2017 #68

But that's the revocation of DACA, not the marriage fraud law. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #69

Don't worry, no one would go to jail -- without due process. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #91

Great idea, and states that value humanity and decency, blue states, will protect DACA Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #2

Fraudulent marriages do not protect DACA. Seriously, they don't. Hekate Sep 2017 #117

Do You Know How Many Hoops People From Other Countries Have To Jump Through Me. Sep 2017 #3

Jumping hoops easier than closing doors forever Generic Other Sep 2017 #6

Only If You Can Get Past Them Me. Sep 2017 #12

Marriages of convenience have always existed. iemitsu Sep 2017 #25

We need to think smarter in order to survive Generic Other Sep 2017 #27

They lived into the 21st century, actually. KitSileya Sep 2017 #38

Our elders knew how to arrange marriages Generic Other Sep 2017 #41

What a crock Hekate Sep 2017 #115

Yes They Have Me. Sep 2017 #30

I know several couples who have had to deal with American immigration rules iemitsu Sep 2017 #32

I Have A Nephew Who Married A Girl From Germany Me. Sep 2017 #42

Are you saying DACA kids never marry American citizens? Generic Other Sep 2017 #26

I Cannot Say That Me. Sep 2017 #33

So DACA kids married to American citizens already Generic Other Sep 2017 #37

Who Can Say Me. Sep 2017 #44

This is a heartbreaking story Generic Other Sep 2017 #49

The marriages would be valid. They just can't be used to benefit their immigration status. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #110

Why do you keep saying "kids"? As Rachel sometimes says, there is a real squick factor... Hekate Sep 2017 #119

None. You just go out and get married. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #101

Well They Could Me. Sep 2017 #104

If they marry a citizen do the get to stay automatically? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #4

No. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #67

That's what I thought. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #71

People who enter into sham marriages to avoid immigration enforcement The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #7

Don't be so sure the won't check to see if you are having sex . . . Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #9

They might check to see if you have children, and will interview neighbors The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #13

An 80-year-old who hasn't gotten pregnant? Generic Other Sep 2017 #28

ICE holds interviews of immigrants who apply for green cards The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #65

You sound like you'd be a great spouse Generic Other Sep 2017 #70

When they saw your big smile and the twinkle in your eye, they would understand what you get. Shrike47 Sep 2017 #77

One of the questions in the sample interview is about birth control, Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #78

Perverts Generic Other Sep 2017 #86

They may - but they are to prevent exactly what you proposed: Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #90

Logic, common sense and facts Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #48

You find Trump's actions logical? Generic Other Sep 2017 #50

This is hardly worth responding to but ... Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #102

+ struggle4progress Sep 2017 #100

Not a smart idea. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #8

Marriage fraud is a felony and a Federal crime. pnwmom Sep 2017 #10

I am open to a real marriage to a 19 year old (and up) hfojvt Sep 2017 #15

An arranged marriage could work Generic Other Sep 2017 #22

Well we must always obey unjust laws Generic Other Sep 2017 #17

You have got a point. delisen Sep 2017 #20

So if I were single, some young man would marry me Croney Sep 2017 #11

Maybe he wouldn't feel stuck if you are a high net worth delisen Sep 2017 #18

Depends on how one defines marriage Generic Other Sep 2017 #19

Only if it is a real marriage Not Ruth Sep 2017 #16

You mean Timmygoat Sep 2017 #21

Except she was forced to service the old goat Generic Other Sep 2017 #23

Do you have any idea of just how long it would take PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #132

I admit I hope the forms would overwhelm ICE Generic Other Sep 2017 #134

And such an overewhelming number of forms PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #136

I am already married to an American citizen Generic Other Sep 2017 #137

They would have to return to their country of origin for up to 3 years janterry Sep 2017 #29

Many people have open marriages Generic Other Sep 2017 #34

I've had some contact with the Feds janterry Sep 2017 #35

I think the clogging up of the system is a valid idea Generic Other Sep 2017 #40

Watch 90-Day Fiancee on TLC Motownman78 Sep 2017 #59

They should not be allowed to decide for citizens Generic Other Sep 2017 #61

The Government also Motownman78 Sep 2017 #72

What many on this thread seem to be telling me Generic Other Sep 2017 #76

You've misunderstood. You're free to marry whom you choose. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #96

You can *marry* whomever you want. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #106

I know someone who (legitimatelly) married a citizen and became one without leaving the country lunamagica Sep 2017 #62

I like your idea Generic. iemitsu Sep 2017 #31

You clearly have never seen the processes used to vet marriages for immigration Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #36

Yeah bearsfootball516 Sep 2017 #39

Precisely Me. Sep 2017 #46

How about we adopt a few kids???? essaynnc Sep 2017 #45

Apparently that is illegal too Generic Other Sep 2017 #51

That's not entirely correct. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #93

That you can do, but you need to get a decent lawyer to advise & do paper work with birth parent(s) Sunlei Sep 2017 #95

The sentiment is good but the consequences are too severe. Don't forget, Trump is the person stevenleser Sep 2017 #47

It's this idea that there are some marriages more legit than others Generic Other Sep 2017 #52

Hard to argue with that. I guess the idea of an intent to defraud/subvert the immigration process stevenleser Sep 2017 #98

It's NOT about some marriages being more legit than others. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #133

Hang on, lemme divorce my wife first jberryhill Sep 2017 #53

seems that the new models are coming out and all over tv are trade in deals dembotoz Sep 2017 #54

Lots of futurists think we will have robot companions soon Generic Other Sep 2017 #57

That was my wife's first husband, from what I understand jberryhill Sep 2017 #107

I didn't advise you to break your current marriage vows Generic Other Sep 2017 #55

I wouldn't inflict her on anyone jberryhill Sep 2017 #109

Marriages of convenience don't help immigration matters BainsBane Sep 2017 #56

Can the courts keep them here Generic Other Sep 2017 #60

The wouldn't be dropping 100,000 PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #73

They don't normally have a backlog of 800,000 people Generic Other Sep 2017 #74

I've been in two marriages jberryhill Sep 2017 #112

i logged in to rec you & your idea is EXCELLENT. 'married couples' would NEED legal help! Sunlei Sep 2017 #75

Not easy to convince Americans to defy the law Generic Other Sep 2017 #80

I think there are quite a few people who have no problem defying the law if Flaleftist Sep 2017 #82

I understand & it really sucks because Republicans pile on the horrors on undocumented & 'work visa' Sunlei Sep 2017 #83

No attorney who wishes to continue to practice law Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #92

I understand. I looked into "adopting" undocumented persons with my Lawyer. Sunlei Sep 2017 #94

Attorneys can provide advice as to whether it is legal, Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #97

People who help others enter into sham marriages can end up in jail, too, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #111

Not if they've been advised properly jberryhill Sep 2017 #113

Of course that's true. But if a couple came into your office The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #120

I don't do immigration law jberryhill Sep 2017 #131

I was responding specifically to the suggestion that people entering into these marriages Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #121

Yes, I see that. There seems to be some confusion (not yours) on this thread The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #124

Having American born children PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #135

"the kids who pay for your social security"?? Like we seniors did NOT pay?? Yeah, don't EVEN. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #79

Sorry, I meant their payments are still incoming Generic Other Sep 2017 #84

Well, keep in mind that Social Security is PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #88

Ew Hekate Sep 2017 #81

No shit pintobean Sep 2017 #85

I was speaking of consenting adults Generic Other Sep 2017 #87

Maybe you shouldn't use the word "kids" then. pintobean Sep 2017 #89

Old men marrying very young women, then they collect surviving spouse Soc Security for 50 years L. Coyote Sep 2017 #99

The marriages should be same sex and non Christian to really annoy Trump voters Not Ruth Sep 2017 #103

There are people I know legit married to illegals sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #105

"Illegals"? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #108

I'm not "pc" sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #114

"PC" is the term the right-wingers use to excuse racial slurs and bigoted terminology. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #116

Well maybe you are entitled to your opinion sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #122

When did I ever give you a hard time? I don't even remember your name. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #125

Several times sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #128

Do you also call people who speed illegals? Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #123

People who speed are.. sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #127

"illegals" it isn't what we (other than right wingers) have always called them. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #129

Nobody that I know has ever used any other term sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #130

Then perhaps you need to find friends who are more respectful of the dignity of all people Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #138

I hope this thread has shown you that just marrying a citizen opens the keys to citizenship and dsc Sep 2017 #118

Nullification is what is needed. roamer65 Sep 2017 #126