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In reply to the discussion: AGAIN, HILLARY WAS RIGHT, YET CRUCIFIED BY THE MEDIA, THE RIGHT & SOME ON THE LEFT [View all]
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AGAIN, HILLARY WAS RIGHT, YET CRUCIFIED BY THE MEDIA, THE RIGHT & SOME ON THE LEFT [View all]
boston bean
Aug 2017
OP
Her description of these asshole Nazis was actually very mild and reserved.
Foamfollower
Aug 2017
#1
How did this site let them use such language? It is a moderated site, right?
VermontKevin
Aug 2017
#20
And now that they see what they have wrought, and they know they are guilty
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2017
#103
I will not forget, we were warned. We were told. And a woman mocked, criticized and crucified for
boston bean
Aug 2017
#6
What is this, the Lord of the Rings? There is no magical virtue that is a dividing line between
JCanete
Aug 2017
#51
Hearts full of hatred described as "not pure" .... why? There's a world of difference there.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#56
it depends on who we're talking about. Are the lefties also people who have hearts full of hatred?
JCanete
Aug 2017
#63
Moral relativism, false equivocations...you sound just like Trump with his "on many sides" shit.
JHan
Aug 2017
#65
Morality is a construct, unless you believe in God, and I don't. I would closely allign myself to
JCanete
Aug 2017
#72
I don't think rich people are evil though. I think their actions equate to evil. I do think, if
JCanete
Aug 2017
#89
No, I didn't say nothing should be condemned. I said people as a whole shouldn't be condemned. Their
JCanete
Aug 2017
#120
what? There is a very obvious and distinct difference from condemning a person and condemning a
JCanete
Aug 2017
#126
I already said that if you want to identify as a Nazi, while people are still people and we
JCanete
Aug 2017
#234
Those Nazis in Charlottesville are not comparable to your average anxious fool. They're actively
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#66
but I'm not denying that. JHan, where did I deny the perniciousness of racism? It fucking exists.
JCanete
Aug 2017
#131
I'm not lecturing you. I have a perspective and in order for me to understand yours better, there is
JCanete
Aug 2017
#141
Call it racism. Racism is not something that has to be permanent. Racism is a state of mind about
JCanete
Aug 2017
#237
I"m not trying to protect anybody's feelings. We've rehashed this over and over.
JCanete
Aug 2017
#248
Like I said, some are gone...too far gone. They have an emotional incentive at this point not to be
JCanete
Aug 2017
#135
um...because in this case I have anecdotal evidence of you attacking me for my perspective, while
JCanete
Aug 2017
#245
Plain and simple enough for anyone to understand . Straight to the point. Thank you MM
lunasun
Aug 2017
#228
The anti HRC agenda from the so called progressive movement, headed by Bernie
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2017
#261
Can we say that she was actually right when she called Trump supporters.....
Proud Liberal Dem
Aug 2017
#8
You're correct, but PLEASE DON'T SHOUT in thread titles. Your thread is not more important. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2017
#11
So if "She WON!" the hate and vitriol on this string should be directed at the electoral college.
ciaobaby
Aug 2017
#165
Well, I agree with you about the EC. However, the vitrol in this string is directed
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#171
I'm sorry you are going through this with your sister. I can't imagine how hard it must be
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#192
If you are wearied of the conversation, it's incumbent upon you to move on.
LanternWaste
Aug 2017
#37
How ironic. No one brought up Sanders except you, in a comment about a young woman...
Hekate
Aug 2017
#222
Really, Baconator? Our candidate, WHO WON BY 3 MILLION VOTES, was a "mistake"? Do tell.
Hekate
Aug 2017
#225
Yes: "Putin's puppet" and "Deplorables" were absolutely correct as were most of the issues
Mrs. Overall
Aug 2017
#16
They saw a Nazi at the gate and still went after Hillary and refused to vote for her.
hrmjustin
Aug 2017
#32
Some wanted that Nazi. They thought if the Nazi won, the harm would be
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2017
#262
But her e-mails, and, and, and, her speaking voice, and , and, and, Wall Street...
Aristus
Aug 2017
#36
er....if this is the way the Democratic Party thinks we should be campaigning in the future,
JCanete
Aug 2017
#48
What are you talking about. You either bother to understand people, or we can keep trying to
JCanete
Aug 2017
#52
Most people do understand racists are vile people. Others think they need to be understood.
boston bean
Aug 2017
#76
Thanks for your thoughtful insight. Nothing sophomoric about reductionism at all. nt
JCanete
Aug 2017
#143
You're just too smart for me. I wish I could be more insulted by I don't know what the burn was here
JCanete
Aug 2017
#169
Ignore those who are purposely trying to make your argument AGAINST nazis sound
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2017
#264
okay, I thought this was an election, where you have to win at least hearts, if not minds.
JCanete
Aug 2017
#54
to what end? Really. What the hell do you think labeling people "shitty people" will accomplish? nt
JCanete
Aug 2017
#64
What? fuck that. Look, there is a point where people are beyond return, or at least, a point
JCanete
Aug 2017
#75
I never categorized every Trump voter, but I get that you need to believe that.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#79
You are objecting to me saying that we shouldn't be applying these categories and making it easy to
JCanete
Aug 2017
#82
Yes, it's exactly like the caveats the WH released today about the heroic counter protestors.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#90
soft-shoeing of racism? I'm not saying we need to "be inclusive of racists." I'm saying racism is a
JCanete
Aug 2017
#94
straw-man. Not what I said. I said they lack empathy. We need to understand that. We don't need to
JCanete
Aug 2017
#102
The lack of empathy resides on one side. And it isn't the side of inclusivity that is lacking it.
boston bean
Aug 2017
#109
again, straw-manning my point and putting words into my mouth about the "poor racists." Point
JCanete
Aug 2017
#118
I'm objecting to you lumping in the protesters against Nazis w Nazis because it's bullshit.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#84
No, it isn't at all just an academic exercise, because I want to do what works here. I want to erode
JCanete
Aug 2017
#98
I'm not the only one that "got that" and yeah, you lumped in "Bernie haters" etc upthread...
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#107
You are misrepresenting what I"m saying and I have no idea why. You are trying to claim that I think
JCanete
Aug 2017
#115
Criticizing racists entrenches racists??? Oh yah. Are you fucking playing us here?
boston bean
Aug 2017
#113
Criticizing racism and criticizing racists for their racism is what we should be doing. Blanketly
JCanete
Aug 2017
#116
It's merely more "STFU about racism and sexism" because it's not my problem....
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#122
I spend a lot of time talking to people who I know who are just fucking ignorant of so many of the
JCanete
Aug 2017
#127
A societal or individual failure or incentive to not empathize. Of course its a pathology.
JCanete
Aug 2017
#144
nope, I didn't say it was perfectly fine. I took care to point out that people have ascribed motives
JCanete
Aug 2017
#150
It's only lecturing when I'm talking? What is it when you're talking to me? I consider it
JCanete
Aug 2017
#168
Its no surprise to me that scapegoating works. That's what's been working since politics.
JCanete
Aug 2017
#179
I'm not suggesting we apologize for anything. Once she said it, I don't see much value in the
JCanete
Aug 2017
#80
Um...I didn't say she lost because of that, and infact in my posts you'll find me saying that there
JCanete
Aug 2017
#100
You're exactly on the same page as Bannon and Miller here. Defending the Nazis is abhorrent.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#78
you are right, it worked well for Trump. A divided and more hateful nation will probably cut that
JCanete
Aug 2017
#283
I hear you, and appreciate people's need to vent. I have grave concerns that it gets in the way of
JCanete
Aug 2017
#235
The deplorable comment, for which she quickly apologized, was a gaffe. It happens. Remember when
StevieM
Aug 2017
#231
And the KGB agents who have lived here their entire lives, some born here, who work
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2017
#267
You mean the day she got 3,000,000 more votes than her opponent? Trump kept saying "rigged"
Hekate
Aug 2017
#227
It was not very smart for her to go after the other side's supporters.
Hassin Bin Sober
Aug 2017
#69
Those votes were baked in- she didn't rile up the base enough. There was so much crap about her
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#114
I don't remember her doing that in the GE. If she did, that was bad too.
Hassin Bin Sober
Aug 2017
#159
if your point is that a media can make hay of anything you say, that's absolutely true. Some
JCanete
Aug 2017
#164
"Her hatchet man Brock"? I don't think he was involved with her campaign after February 2016.
George II
Aug 2017
#256
History will be kind to Hillary. She tried to stop this madness. But so many didn't listen.
SweetieD
Aug 2017
#91
I think I despise those "purity" voters even more than I despise the trumpers
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#162
I was under the impression that Clinton has said the deplorable statement was a mistake.
jalan48
Aug 2017
#172
Well, that guy in Ohio is worse than deplorable, he's an a-hole for voting for a POS like Trump.
Beacool
Aug 2017
#280
Clinton Machine, Democratic Establishment, out-of-touch, terrible campaign ...
betsuni
Aug 2017
#253
Hillary was only wrong in thinking that half of Trump's supporters were deplorable.
Beacool
Aug 2017
#274
Yes she was right. again. But she wasn't "PURE". So we got this orange jackass instead.
Lil Missy
Aug 2017
#281
