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In reply to the discussion: Obama and Romney Both Backing Secret Job-killing Deal? Trans-Pacific Partnership lurks [View all]treestar
(82,383 posts)3. Are we just to assume it is "job killing" or at least, try to explain why
President Obama must not think so, or there is no reason he'd be doing it.
So I think there is an open issue there.
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Teamster Jeff
Jul 2012
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There isn't anything secret about the TPP. The negotiation sessions are announced publicly
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#2
Contents of potential agreement are under the radar because they know people will be outraged
Teamster Jeff
Jul 2012
#13
Of course the countries in a trade agreement are subject to an enforcement arm of the pact
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#15
They were secret until a whistle-blower leaked them. That is when we found out about them.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#51
There is no agreement yet. It's negotiations. And there is no reason for them to be public
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#61
Executive privilege. The president and his representatives have to be able to negotiate
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#63
There is every reason why trade agreements should be discussed openly by CONGRESS, NOT by foreign
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#94
No, Senator Levin's demand is outrageous. The congress will vote on the agreement. They do not
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#95
Sen. Levin was absolutely correct to be outraged that foreign etities are busy writing laws for this
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#96
Congress will vote on the final agreement. The president and the executives of the other
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#106
'You people'??? You mean Americans who think that Congress is our legislative body, you know, the
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#107
Congress was barred from knowing anything about this. If it had not been for a whistle-blower
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#109
Did you also agree with the congress when members said the Attorney General had to hand over
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#110
The negotiations aren't finished, once they are what will actually be in the agreement will be
RB TexLa
Jul 2012
#60
LOL. "You say workers in both countries are WORSE off, while corporations are much richer?"
Romulox
Jul 2012
#21
I was poking fun at the poster's (feigned?) incredulity. I agree with your title. nt
Romulox
Jul 2012
#27
Is this a joke? Nobody can educate you on basic economics, here. Nor is your lack of understanding
Romulox
Jul 2012
#69
Nonsense. I'm not going to bother to *disprove* your ill-informed argument; there's no point. nt
Romulox
Jul 2012
#81
I'm still waking up, but this report does not seem to cover jobs created in Mexico
amandabeech
Jul 2012
#92
Reality, treestar: "Since NAFTA was enacted, U.S. manufacturing employment has fallen by 5 million"
Romulox
Jul 2012
#70
This information is available to anyone who is even remotely curious. You haven't found it for a
Romulox
Jul 2012
#76
Nope. Won't be derailed by your ignorance. Make an effort to *READ THE LINKS ALREADY POSTED* to
Romulox
Jul 2012
#83
This is a MESSAGE BOARD. The way we communicate is through the written word. If you won't read,
Romulox
Jul 2012
#111
This is a PATHETIC way to try to derail, btw--the "feigned" ignorance as a debating tactic. nt
Romulox
Jul 2012
#112
I mean, there are detailed links *IN THIS VERY THREAD*, and you still pretend your ignorance of the
Romulox
Jul 2012
#79
how would we know, since the public & legislators are denied access that's given to corporations?
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#33
"by the time it gets to congress"... our government is negotiating terms *now*. why is it secret?
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#88
This isn't just about 'job-killing'. It is way worse than that. Have you read what was
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#52
Now it cannot. Had it not been for the whistle-blower no one would know about it.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#87
Sorry about your job, but that is not the only issue regarding these 'agreements'. It is way more
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#53
I don't think that foreign corporations, or any corporations, should be planning our future,
amandabeech
Jul 2012
#93
Not dry behind the ears yet. Bought gas at 17 cents a gallon. Then it went to 19. Kids these days!
freshwest
Jul 2012
#103
The WTO Trade court is an arbiter of trade disputes between member countries...
Teamster Jeff
Jul 2012
#17
Many other countries (e.g. Japan, South Korea, China) have active partnerships between gov't and
Romulox
Jul 2012
#23
no, it's not. and there are fewer jobs in the us today than on the day bush took office.
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#25
'regulated' for the benefit of the biggest boys on the block. also crap. 'regulated' for the
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#41
Ok, assuming then that Obama is incapable of constructing a good trade agreement
bhikkhu
Jul 2012
#47
i disagree that obama constructed the agreement. i am 4th generation pnw. trade has always
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#48
Thank you, I've been reading the comments here and it seems to me that a few people defending
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#55
The Rule of Law is always a good place to turn to when corruption rears its ugly head.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#59
You seem to see politics as lining up behind Team A or Team B. Many of us want to PLAY for a team.
Romulox
Jul 2012
#32
Of course there is "evidence to suggest that Obama would support a deal that would lead to jobs"
Romulox
Jul 2012
#44
So you will soon be starting a Group here on DU called 2016 Progressive Prez, right?
JoePhilly
Jul 2012
#58
YOU sure as shooting haven't kept your mouth shut these past 4 years. Why should I?
Romulox
Jul 2012
#66
I haven't relented on this issue since before 2008. Don't dictate my priorities to me. nt
Romulox
Jul 2012
#84